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northumbrian

Joined: 22/09/2008 Posts: 44
Message Posted: 26/04/2011 17:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 20 in Discussion |
| Looking for a 1HP Single Phase submersible well pump by a reputable manufacturer such as Lowara. Can anyome suggest supplier in Kyrenia area please? |
Tenakoutou


Joined: 27/07/2009 Posts: 4110
Message Posted: 26/04/2011 20:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 20 in Discussion |
| Be very careful! I bought two JET 1HP submersible [well] pumps - the first from a small shop in Girne, the second from Genc [pronounced Gench] opposite Lemar.Karaolanoglu. I paid 394.99TL for the second one. The manager gave me a year's guarantee. being winter, I only used the pump four times and it burned out. When, after three months, I took it back to Genc, there was a new manager who refused to honour the guarantee, telling me that they don't give a warranty for anything made in China. There was an identical looking Italian pump costing 1200TL - they know what they can do with that! Incidentally, these cylinder pumps are irrepairable. You've posed a difficult question - in TRNC it seems there is only Italian, or Chinese - after several bad experiences with both, I trust neither. Try 'Spanias' in the South - they'll get you any make you want. Personally, I'd go for 'Grundfoss' - high quality and long lasting. |
northumbrian

Joined: 22/09/2008 Posts: 44
Message Posted: 26/04/2011 20:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 20 in Discussion |
| Cheers Tenakoutou for the warning. I named Lowara because they are Italian, and are trusted in the industry - easy to maintain as they strip down and spare parts are readily available, much the same as Grundfos. |
luem1

Joined: 29/07/2009 Posts: 109
Message Posted: 27/04/2011 00:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 20 in Discussion |
| There's a shop on the main road in Lapta. Coming from Girne it's on the right hand side. Look out for a new block of 4 shops with a big eagle on a perch in front of the last shop in the block. The pump shop is at the right hand of the block. |
negativenick

Joined: 10/11/2008 Posts: 6023
Message Posted: 27/04/2011 08:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 20 in Discussion |
| surely best to go to the south ?? - they sell then in home centre (or what ever its called) - quaity likely to be better and proper guarantee......... the TC shopkeepers do themselves no favours pulling strokes lke this........... |
birdman


Joined: 20/09/2010 Posts: 690
Message Posted: 27/04/2011 22:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 20 in Discussion |
| Ref Message 4 This is an excellent pump shop that even repairs pumps in their underground workshop. They repaired my "well-pump" 6 years ago,( as it was not working,) and I only use well water,so it has taken some hard wear over the last six years. It is still going strong. This pump was in the existing well when I brought the land so I have no idea how old it was then even. |
Tenakoutou


Joined: 27/07/2009 Posts: 4110
Message Posted: 28/04/2011 08:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 20 in Discussion |
| Now, being unable to source a new cylindrical submersible pump in TRNC for anywhere near a reasonable price, I have hung a 4 metre length of galv. pipe [with check valve] on a spare [Chinese] centrifugal pump I had and lowered it down the well. It seems to be working OK - less pressure, but that's not so important. The only downside is that I have to raise, or lower, this pump, according to the water level in the well. This is necessary because the lifting capacity of a centrifugal is much less - about 6 metres max., I think. However, this is a much cheaper option! Having already spent over a thousand TL on the other two Chinese submersibles, I'm not going to risk buying [1200+ TL] an Italian exact lookalike! By the way, according to info. from 'Alibaba' trading, the TRNC importers buy these 'JET' cylindrical pumps ex factory for $39 and retail them here for 400TL - good business, if you can get it! |
birdman


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Message Posted: 28/04/2011 09:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 20 in Discussion |
| I forgot to inform you that my well is 72 foot deep and contains approximately 100 tons of fresh drinking water. It has a large cave at that depth and also a large cave it 45 feet, both of which supply the well. The submersible pump (cylindrical) is at approx. 65 feet down so has a lot of pressure required to pump the water up to villa level. |
martinD41

Joined: 06/09/2010 Posts: 3001
Message Posted: 28/04/2011 14:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 20 in Discussion |
| Ten, why not put another check valve half way up the pipe,thus reducing the "LIFT" Sort of step tube effect... |
martinD41

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Message Posted: 28/04/2011 15:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 20 in Discussion |
| Sorry Ten ,should have said reduce the pipe diameter by Half below the MID check valve thus reducing the weight of the water column,and increasing lift capacity ... |
kibsolar

Joined: 14/09/2008 Posts: 552
Message Posted: 28/04/2011 15:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 20 in Discussion |
| Hi northumbrian Barry... i know where the Lowara shop is... nice guy, mustafa. he also offers booster pupms all this kind of good quality. please contact me info@kibsolar.com |
Tenakoutou


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Message Posted: 28/04/2011 18:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 20 in Discussion |
| Thanks for the tips/ideas, Martin - but isn't the diameter of the bore pipe only relative - 6 metres being the max. a centrifugal pump can pull? Even if you put in a check-valve halfway, the pump is still trying to suck from the same depth? It would be great if you can tell me I've got it wrong! I haven't had too much experience with centrifugals sucking from depth. |
martinD41

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Message Posted: 28/04/2011 21:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 20 in Discussion |
| Ten , if you reduce the weight of the water column ,the pump may not produce the volume of water but it will "Lift " from a greater depth.Hope this helps my old cobba .... |
Tenakoutou


Joined: 27/07/2009 Posts: 4110
Message Posted: 29/04/2011 09:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 20 in Discussion |
| I will defo try it, Sport - however, this is what I have always thought to be fact: Maximum suction lift — The height (approx. 25') that water can be lifted by a centrifugal pump in actual conditions, taking into consideration altitude, friction loss, temperature, suspended particles, and the inability to create a perfect vacuum. The 25' suction lift is attainable for cold water (60°F) at sea level. Suction lift diminishes as elevation increases, due to the reduction in atmospheric pressure. In addition, suction lift decreases as the water temperature increases since warm water contains more entrained air. |
martinD41

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Message Posted: 29/04/2011 09:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 20 in Discussion |
| Simple experiment Ten,place a bowl of water on the floor,cut a piece of garden hose to 3ft.and join some drinking straws together until 3ft long.....now see which is easiest to suck water from the bowl ... Air pressure surrounding the tube is what forces the water to rise,the less the weight of water ,the higher it will rise |
Tenakoutou


Joined: 27/07/2009 Posts: 4110
Message Posted: 29/04/2011 10:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 20 in Discussion |
| I can appreciate your point without physically having to make the experiment - cheers, Martin! I have my own 'golden rule' when attempting to give people advice: if I can't dazzle them with brilliance, I just try to baffle them with bullsh1t!!! |
martinD41

Joined: 06/09/2010 Posts: 3001
Message Posted: 29/04/2011 10:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 20 in Discussion |
| Ten....Or you could try fitting a "Venturi" .but 28ft will be your limit ...........Have a lovely day.. |
Tenakoutou


Joined: 27/07/2009 Posts: 4110
Message Posted: 29/04/2011 10:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 20 in Discussion |
| Ditto, Martin! |
yrys88

Joined: 08/08/2009 Posts: 1140
Message Posted: 29/04/2011 16:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 20 in Discussion |
| Hi All Water pumps are an important part of our lives in North Cyprus, but unfortunately, its really hard to find good quality pumps on the market. They either make too much noise, consume too much electricity or stop working after a year! We sell high quality HITACHI water pumps. We are the Official distributers in North Cyprus. Pls check http://www.hitachi.ae/products/consumer/wheretobuy/dealersshops.html Under North Cyprus. These pumps are absolutely amazing, the features are too many to list. I can send a brochure to anyone interested or you can view the models on the HITACHI website: http://hitachiconsumer.com.my/index.php/water-pump Thanks Yen TECHMAR yrtrnc@yahoo.co.uk 0392 8155441 |
martinD41

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Message Posted: 29/04/2011 21:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 20 in Discussion |
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