Why do popular and helpful members vanish?

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 21:54

With the moderation in flux at the moment with AJ's resignation, would this explain an inconsistency in bans?

In particular, veteran member "mmmmmm" was recently given 30 days in the cooler. But with 15 days left and his baseball hand getting sore it went back to 20 days - and is now permanent.

This appears to be an injustice which remains unexplained. I'm sure there's a simple explanation and I'm equally sure the vast majority of fellow members would love to see Marky back posting again.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 22:03

they know you are back pikey , 6xm posted earlier by the way

yrret


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 761

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 22:04

Probably because there are many more unpopular, unhelpful members who proliferate bollox.

gallowgate


Joined: 08/06/2009
Posts: 164

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 22:47

6xM's would be very welcome back in my opinion. He saved me a fortune in setting up my tv system. Very knowledgeable member.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 22:52

msg 4;

So you just want him back for your gain,not because he might be a good person or..................???

gallowgate


Joined: 08/06/2009
Posts: 164

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 23:01

Message 5

You appear to specialise in attempting to turn innocent comments into contention. Sad really.

mrsgee


Joined: 23/06/2009
Posts: 396

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 23:07

I would question the term 'most popular and helpful' - maybe the most prolific......but generally unhelpful, negative, argumentative......there are lots of expressions we could use........and no, actually, as one of the 'vast majority of members' I have not missed 6 m's one iota......I will now don my tin hat and await the flack.......

stilluvithere



Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 765

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 23:09

I'm with you Mrs Gee, his ban should be permanent.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 23:12

Msg7,

People often don't like others who show them up in a debate. But mmmmmm's knowledge of Cyprus and his own areas of IT, communications and satellite TV made him very popular with members and his help was always free. You only have to trawl back to see how many thumbs up he got. Whether he feel foul of internal politics is another matter but he deserves to be told what's going on and when he's being reinstated as promised.

gallowgate


Joined: 08/06/2009
Posts: 164

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 23:17

Well said Zoots. I ignored Mark when he warned me about a certain card sharing operation. The result was it cost me £585 for a terrible system. He advised me on installing adtv and I now have a great system for very little. Most knowledgable and helpful member.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 23:21

msg 6;

I didn't say 'he saved me fortune',you did!



I'd like him back for his overall knowledge,especialy in Cyprus,even though we have our differences.

mrsgee


Joined: 23/06/2009
Posts: 396

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 23:23

Zoots, that may be so,.....I have never debated with 6 m's (well not for a few years when he accused me of being a student and knowing nothing...ha ha ) and to be honest am not interested....I find it quite ridiculous actually that one person can be such a centre of attention...over IT, satellite tv...and whatever, whatever he chose to pitch in with....I really don't wish to 'trawl back' because he never gave any useful information as far as I am concerned....I am not interested in 4 meter dishes..sky boxes....etc etc....and I think that you are a bit misguided on his 'knowledge' of Cyprus....it has always IMHO as people like to put it.....opinion ....not knowledge....IMHO....lol

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 23:29

mrsgee,

mmmmmm exposed hypocrites and shysters who claimed to be offering a good service but did not tell the truth about what would happen to customers in the long run. Commendably, Gallowgate above gives his own example of this happening. Marky would go out of his way to help people who, for all he knows, would stab him in the back the next minute. He is one of the good guys who help to make a BB thrive.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 23:34

Has Mark asked you to start this thread on his behalf Zoots or are you just exploiting him to further your own agenda like you exploit everything to do so ?

I have clashed with Mark on many occasions but have always supported his right to post. I have respect for him because he does not hide behind multiple ID's but stands behind what he says and as who is really is openly and has the the guts and decency to meet in person, unlike some I could mention.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 23:39

Msg 14,

I'm exploiting you every time you respond to my posts. You should just try to ignore me as already advised and stick to the debate.

mrsgee


Joined: 23/06/2009
Posts: 396

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 23:43

Zoots, I rest my case......and am off to bed ......because I have a life to get up to tomorrow...night night.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 23:45

It is totaly germaine to this 'debate' as to if you made this post at the request of Mark or not, yet you seem to not want to answer the simple question.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 23:46

Great stuff,just like the old days guys.Nothing wrong with good old healthy debate,



Paul.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 23:49

getting back on topic , because of poeple like you ? msg1`

mrsgee


Joined: 23/06/2009
Posts: 396

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 23:51

'snigger'.......oops, sorry I did say I was off to bed........... (sorry that was very childish)......so should go down well with some....

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 22:11

Zoots a very good question, apart from MM why do popular and helpful members vanish from forums?

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 22:58

Perhaps they have all gone to the home for the bewildered, or else due to advancing years the eyesight has faded, perhaps senility has completely taken over and they have all gone ga ga. Then again it could be that they can't be bothered to post anymore due to the number of clever *young* things who are always ready to insult or ridicule anyone who they deem to be over the hill and past their sell by date.

I don't know where they have gone but I sincerely wish some of them would come back so that this board could once again be a pleasant place to visit, now that is giving my age away ! Ah well, off to bed now, teeth out, wooden leg off, cup of cocoa in hand, night night all.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 01:54

Carol - message 22. Yes, not much of a life for us old biddies, is it? Between struggling to get through the days, living on memories of when we were the 'young things', alcoholism, dementia (not helped, of course, by our lack of basic education), general ill-health and, of course, incontinence, there's little to look forward to these days.



You most certainly are giving your age away with your comment about hoping for the return of the posters of the 'old days' - still, that's all us old folks have, I suppose, memories



I must sign off now; my eyesight, not good at the best of times now, is fading fast.



J

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 07:56

We all know why... Alien Abduction.... nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah...

Half the time we never know if a new poster would turn into a popular and helpful member because they get torn to shreds almost immediately by people who don't like change or having their arguments challenged. Sometimes not even that. Sometimes it's just being someone who lives on what was allegedly former Greek Cypriot land. Zoots is responsible for much of this antagonism.

Think of it this way, if you walk into a pub some of the patrons stop and stare and start asking you what you are doing there don't you think you might mark the pub down as one not to frequent in the future?

Being banned for holding contrary views should not happen but conversely, if a high percentage of threads are hijacked for anti-TRNC propaganda that is not in accordance with the intended purpose of this board and should be curtailed.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 09:47

Groucho, I don't think the contrary views are the problem, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but it's when the posts become personal, childish and insulting that the board loses the plot.

Some people may think they are being humorous when passing comments about the more mature members of the board, in actual fact they just make themselves look foolish, and bitter.

Age is a funny old thing, the alternative to getting old is dying young, I know which I prefer, besides, age only matters if you are a good cheese or a fine wine !

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 10:14

So funny you all have me legs a going laughing soooo much..Thanks









Spider,X

Rottolover



Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 519

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 11:08

Sorry, can't help it, I'm in....



It's when debates about anything become hairy that I become interested in reading them. I must say that I've had more than one gentle set-to with Sixems, as he comes across to me as being biassed and GC-sided, but he can more than hold his own and his knowledge about IT systems seems to be sound and helpful. He doesn't appear to charge much either. And he also seems to retain his one nickname and post everything under it.



But Campbell, on the other hand, is a different bowl of sour lemons. He seems to have more nics than I've had crayfish dinners, and I simply can't get why that is. His style of postings is unmistakeable, though, so it really doesn't seem to serve a logical purpose. They all come enmeshed in liberal doses of patronising, arrogant and condescending language, fulsomely flavoured with sanctimonious, emotive nonsense.



As in mess. 15, he will put down anyone old, female, of different opinion or who asks hard questions. Or try to.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 11:59

Rottolover,

Love you long time. ;)

jimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 12:25

I'm puzzled as to where people get the information from that AJ has resigned, 6m's has been banned etc- who tells who ? Just don't understand how this works or have I simply missed these 'announcements ? Can anyone enlighten me please?

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 14:21

spot on Rottolover msg 28



Campbell is a totaly different kettle of fish to 6m. 6m genuinely believes what he posts. Campbell on the other hand purposely and consistently posts things that he KNOWS are not true. Just one current example being 'ECHR protects TRNC citizens in the TRNC but not non citizens', though this is just one example from a long sucession of such intentful lying and distortion by him over many many years. He would never write such as himself for to do so would seriously damage his professional credibility as a journalist, so instead he posts such things, over and over again using a sucsession of aliases.

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 15:33

I do hope all the m's has not been done away with "night and fog" style



he was always most helpful with communication questions,



and as regards the cyprus "problem" he predicted very long in advance

how crucial any decision on the immovable properties comission would be

even though that probably went the other way to his own aspirations



...leaving north cyprus property investors just that little bit more secure



but to our friend pike any loss of a supporter of the republic of "cyprus"

however ambivalent, is a body blow to be sure,



and backbiting and confusion on the forum is a bonus to "zoots you sir"

jimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 15:42

Erolz - I'm not exactly sure what it is you hope to achieve here with your repetitive posts against a cerain Mr.Campbell. Do you want him banned permanently or is it only the fact that he keeps re surfacing under different aliases that you have an issue with ? - apart from your differing viewponts of course.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 15:51

What I want jimmyG is for people to be able to judge his posts fairly in the context of what he has posted in the past under different aliases and what he writes as a 'professional' journalist under his real name, so that they can see his manipulations for what they are. I want transparency and honesty. I want this because I am convinced having watched him post on forums like this and others for nigh on 10 years that he is waging a form of 'information warfare' against the TRNC and TC people, something he publicaly cites (information warfare) as a professional interest of his under his real name.

jimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 16:12

Erolz - yes I understand that- and you've made that point loud and clear on your other thread, which is now closed - but why do you feel the need to be the one to 'educate' everyone on here? - it's bordering on a personal crusade against him that seems to have lasted for 10 years!!

We've read what you've said now - so please leave it to us to make up our own minds about his every post and we'll respond to them, or not, as we as individuals see fit.



Thank you for your reply.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 16:17

further answer to jimmyg.



Does it change your understanding or ability to understand a post in the following two senarios ?



senario 1. Poster posts something that is not correct but believes it to be correct.

senario 2. Poster posts something they must know to not be correct but chooses to post it anyway.



I believe a readers understanding of a post is materialy different in these two senarios. Now when zoots posts 'ECHR protects TC in the TRNC but not non citizens', it is reasonable to assume that this is senario 1. However when one knows that the poster Zoots is Campbell Thomas, who has countless times and under many different aliases reffered to ECHR judgments in favour of non TRNC citizens (GC) against the TRNC / Turkey, then you know that senario 2 is the case and it changes how you as a reader can understand that post. What I want is for an average reader to be able to consider such posts in their correct context, nothing more.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 16:24

I am sorry jimmyg but my responses to Campbell Thomas are entirely reactive. It is only when he firsts seeks to create an biased impression that I challenge such. What would you have me do when I see someone post something like 'the ECHR protects TC in the TRNC but non non citizens'. Just leave it unchallenged, even though it is clearly blatantly not true ? What is more what am I supposed to do when I know that the poster who said this himself knows it is not true ? It seems you would like me to do nothing. Well I am afraid in all honesty I can not say that is what I will do. When Campbell Thomas stops making his calculated intentful misleading posts about my country and my people then I will stop challenging him. Untill then I see little chance that things will change. Sorry.

jimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 16:54

Erolz - no need to apologise - I too will challenge misinformation or untruths at every opportunity but still respect the right of others to have a different point of view and defend their right to post on forums such as this.

Sadly though, and although it doesn't contain the exact words this time around, this thread seems to have gone back to the days from years ago when both Eric Seans & Marky Mark were both being accused of having GC paymasters.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 17:05

I have already said that I consider MM to be very different from Campbell Thomas and believe him to be genuine, if somewhat misguided on some aspects of the Cyprus conflict in my view

I do not say that Campbell Thomas has GC paymasters. I do say he has a clear consistent anti TRNC / TC agenda that is seen clearest when one is able to connect his posts through his various aliases and is more than willing to post things he knows to be untrue or misleading distortions in his pursuit of this agenda. What else could I think given the evidence ?

Anyway I am not indifferent to the annoyance felt by some that is caused by his behaviour and my reaction to it and the part I play in that. I am thinking of ways that I can note and record such untruths and distortions without being so obtrusive in the threads themsleves.

As for my personal views on peoples rights to express their own views openly, you only have to look at how I ran the forum I did to know I value the right to free speech for a

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 17:07

I value the right to free speech for all, without reservation.

jimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 17:38

Very eloquently put Erolz, thank you - perhaps if Mr. Thomas reads this thread he could let us know if he agrees with your assertion that he has an 'agenda' & if so its' purpose ?

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 18:03

I thought "zoots" owned property in Cyprus?

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 18:14

Campbell Thomas owns a property in the TRNC. It is a standard part of his 'narrative' under his various aliases that he has purchased the property he did specifically because it was undisputed foriegn owned title pre 74. He also claims to have had the sale 'noted' in the RoC land registry, though what this 'noting' means and under what RoC law it has any force has never been clear to me. As far as I understand it he does not have a deed for this property issued by the RoC land registry.

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 18:15

He certainly claimed to have a turkish title property in Girne.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 18:17

Sorry I was incorrect when I said foriegn owned pre 74. As Kaiserphil says above TC owned pre 74, not foreign owned.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 19:10

And whats more he took advantage of the situation in TRNC and bought that property for a very cheap price....morals of an ally cat !

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 19:23

Msg 45 , please explain

Is it G/C property ?

yrret


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 761

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 19:48

Had to laugh one time when the 'hobby bobby in a skirt' was knocking on about trespass etc, during the Oram's red herring.

Asked if he had then knowingly allowed his kids to trespass by going into shops in Ky that were previously occupied by GC's. Of course the answer had to be yes, so he is as culpable as anyone else, just can't see the wood for the trees.

Good to know however that by paying his taxes on his appt here is is contributing to keeping the staus quo (and I don't mean the band with only 1 tune for 267 years!)

yrret


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 761

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 19:53

And the varnishing I did today has now dried and looks pretty good.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 21:01

JimmyG,

I appreciate your posts. First off, no member here is obliged to reveal their identities for very good reasons. It's an internet forum and everyone should be free to post subject to the usual rules on profanity, threatening behaviour, abuse etc. We can see on this forum how some people will try and blacken an individual's character by attempting to "out" them and by naming names. This behaviour should be banned but is allowed here. So I am member "Zoots".

I have absolutely no agenda apart from redressing the balance and pointing out realities on a forum where even questioning the legality of the "TRNC" is banned. I have many years experience in Cyprus - probably more experience than most members who attack me. But an alternative view is almost unknown due to a combination of the more outspoken members not being capable of civilised debate and fear of being different.

Erolz and his like make it an mission to marginalise and bully people like me because he enjoys protection.

shrimp


Joined: 01/09/2010
Posts: 939

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 21:06

Actually Zoots, You say people should be allowed to post on all subjects unless they are of a threatening behaviour, you also say you feel Erolz is a bully to you........well let me say, YOU are the one who posts threatening remarks and YOU are the one who is the bully on here......it is people like YOU that make poplular posters disappear and when you realize that it will be a better place for it....I hope that answers your question.......

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 21:15

is 6xm banned ? and who is thomas campbell ? has my ban run concurent / consecutive ? have i been floating around cyberspace emailing aj ? who apparantly no longer exists ? whats occuring out their ? can any body enlighten me ?

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 21:17

Message 51.



"Thomas Campbell" (sic) should read "Campbell Thomas" currently posting as "Zoots".



Yes, Mark is currently banned.



AJ has resigned.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 21:19

rowlo (mess 51)



Beam me up Scottie!!!!!!

Rottolover



Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 519

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 21:31

Message 49 is classic Campbell. It contains all the usual spin, and one of Campbell's favourite tactics...to accuse everyone else of what he does so well himself.



But Campbell...mate..."I have absolutely no agenda..." You really ought to consider one more nic: "Pinnochio". Your nose should be around 20 cms by now, after this howler.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 21:51

No one is obliged to reveal their identities, plural. In your own words 'says it all really'.

Where have i ever threatened anyone on this forum or any other ? Yet more distortion of reality as far as I am concerned.

You have absolutely no agenda and are very knowledgable about the CYprus proble. So why then claim that 'ECHR protects TC in the TRNC but not non citizens' when you KNOW that is simply not true. Is that really the behaviour of somone with no agenda ? I don't think so and that is just one recent example of the kind of thing you have posted repeatedly over many years and under many alises.

I have absolutley no fear of civilised and reasoned debate, in fact I welcome it. Anyone who knows me in real life or from the many forums I have posted on over the years knows my record in that regard. Anyone can see it for themsleves by searching my posts on talkcyprus.org or cyprus-forum.com. Few can show such a consistent record of reasoned argument as me



[cont]

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 21:56

as you well know. Nor do I have a record of attacking the poster and not the post other than in the specific instances of your posts under you various aliases. This for me is the expection not the rule and I believe that it is entirely valid to expose your many aliases along with your intentful lies and distortion 'in the public interest'.

Talk and words are cheap, but actions speak voulmes. You can say you have no agenda but the evidence shows otherwise over many years. You can accuse me (amongst many other things) that I am a bully and fearful of reasoned debate but once again the evidence over many years shows otherwise.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 22:02

Message 49



"We can see on this forum how some people will try and blacken an individual's character"



Hang on a minute whilst I open another bottle of Gin, take my Dementia medication and pop down to Lemar for some more Tena Lady.



You crack me up, do you really think fellow members are going to see you as whiter than white after your posts under your current ID and previous ones.



The fact is you have to have multiple ID's because previous ones have been banned. Not for having an alternative view but for personal abuse against fellow members.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 22:07

Just to add to the above as I had to make a quick trip to the loo, it's an age thing lol.



If you are frequently banned for having an alternative view how come your current ID is active on here?



I will stress once more, I do not want you banned I just want a ceasefire in the personal abuse on and off the forums.

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 22:15

Bring back Mark (6m's) and let the sparks really fly!



Richard

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 22:38

If your mission as a member of this board is to antagonise the wider membership then your membership may very well be up for review... that's a fact. If you want to remain a member you should look at your motives.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 22:40

Msg 60 ,agree

but who is that directed at/to?

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 22:43

Everyone who is a negative influence I guess.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 22:51

“I believe in the brotherhood of all men, but I don't believe in wasting brotherhood on anyone who doesn't want to practice it with me. Brotherhood is a two-way street.”



Malcolm X

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 23:58

zoots message 49:



redressing the balance...ah yes, an honourable role, if a self-appointed one



one problem is that in the context of the cyprus "problem"

the real question is the different viewpoint of the two main communities

...can they be peacefully reconciled? it seems most unlikely



another problem with "balance" as you term it,

is that balancer if we may call him that, is a shadowy agenda-less entity,

with an interest in the island but supposedly without a viewpoint of his own



finally, we remember with a grim chuckle how in a different guise,

you posted years ago, that you were "90% sure" of a cyprus agreement by june,

assumed to be 2009, an honest mistake, or a devious example of imbalance?

Rottolover



Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 519

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 11:30

You may also note the liberal use of another of Campbell's 'literary' devices...his love of euphemisms.



"redressing the balance" : force-feeding you with my opinion



"pointing out realities" : force-feeding you with my opinion



"I have many years experience in Cyprus..." : my opinion is better than yours



"an alternative view" : your opinion is ludicrous



"not being capable of civilised debate": you are all morons



"fear of being different": don't worry, children, accept my opinion and all will be well



Campbell, you seem to need always to be ridiculing people and trying to put down anyone with a real alternative viewpoint, and to do it from concealment....I believe you need serious professional help.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 11:36

msge 65



Great post. Very perceptive

hodgeliz


Joined: 16/10/2010
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 11:40

Message 60 are you now a mod to be able to make these statements ???

The trouble with this board IMHO is that too many with too little up top (and I dont mean hair) think they have all the answers and are irked when someone dares to have opposing views, this then brings in the outbursts and name calling ultimately leading to very disgusting tirades in the various threads

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 11:49

Message 67

Surely you don't need to be a mod to find* Zoots* constant insulting and derogatory remarks out of order in a debate. Of course people have different opinions on things but is there really any need for some of the remarks posted, if you haven't seen them just have a quick look back and it will be plain to see, I think you may find that it is just part of Zoots makeup to try to insult others and naturally people will respond.

shrimp


Joined: 01/09/2010
Posts: 939

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 12:06

..........................or vanish!

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 13:12

Shrimp msg 50: "...well let me say, YOU are the one who posts threatening remarks..."

If you are now accusing me of making threatening remarks then show me your evidence. I look forward to seeing it.

Or are you just harbouring a grudge because you criticised the suffragettes who brought women the vote and I picked you up on it?

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 13:16

Groucho Msg 60,

I never (much) associated you with the bleating of sheep. Perhaps my perception may very well be up for review.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 13:18

Keep on topic please ,

Simbas

Rottolover



Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 519

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 14:09

Wacko!! Two attempted put-downs in a row!



They must have hit a nerve, Campbell...

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 14:32

Message 73

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 14:47

Zoots msg 70 "If you [shrimp] are now accusing me of making threatening remarks then show me your evidence. I look forward to seeing it. "



Well what is a threating remark is of course subjective, as is what is valid 'outing' and what is 'civilised debate'



Some recent Eric Seans 'gems' from cyprus-forum.com



"Do you know who this prick ttoli is? Just trying to narrow down the usual suspects."



"Hmm, I didn't realise your deeply-rooted character flaws extended to paedophilia as well as blowing off a member of UNFICYP's City Troop. Does that make you adventurous - or just curious?

And don't concern yourself with the "relevant bodies" as they know very well who I am - especially since I was in paying my property tax in person last week.

You should worry more about having "your" property seized and being deported with the rest of the carpetbaggers. Better check up on any warrants outstanding for you. "



Of course they should be viewed in context of the whole thread there

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jimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 14:50

Well Zoots at least you did reply, thank you - I suspect that many on here did not think, or hoped, you would not - and the result is there for all to see - a rush to put you down. These 2 distinct camps will never agree but I still enjoy the banter - it's a score draw for me!!

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 14:50

Zoots, you obviously know some very odd sheep!

It's a question of the cap fitting. I did not name you....

The raison d'etre of this board is as a support structure for those wishing to promote life here and help others. Your presence would seem to be at odds with this. If not, please explain.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 15:00

which can be found here

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=33944



or this little joke



"What do you call a carpetbagger at the bottom of Kyrenia harbour?

A start."



http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=670021



Threatening ? I'll leave that up to each indivdual to judge for themselves. However I do think it is fair to compare post 49 with these others posts on cyprus-forum, given the professed claims of "usual rules on profanity, threatening behaviour, abuse etc" on interent forums and how dispiclable it is to 'out' people on such forums and such like.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 15:09

And zoots I would still quite like an answer as to why someone as knowledgable as yourself about cyprus issues would make the claim 'the ECHR protects TC in the TRNC but not non citizens' when you must know that this is simply not true ? Why would a sincere poster with no agenda post something they know is not true ? This is a genuine question, if there is an explaination other then other than the obvious one I assume then please do provide it and I will adjust my view of such posts accordingly. Or just ignore the question again and I won't. As you like.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 16:01

This is getting personal , keep on topic or it will be closed

Simbas

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 18:26

JimmyG Msg 76,

No problem Jimmy. An intelligent post deserves a reply and as you can see, internet bullying is most exciting thing in some people's sad lives. It's the herd mentality.

Staying on subject, some of the most popular posters attracting hot threads tend to be the more controversial characters like mmmmmm and others. When I say controversial, I mean only on TRNC expat forums where their views are like a crucifix to Dracula.

But it's all common sense stuff going back to Gary Robb(er) and beyond. Advice like don't pay a penny until you get your title deed, stick to pre-74 and don't buy Greek Cypriot property, many in the authorities are corrupt, Turkey committed war crimes in Cyprus so don't cash in on the suffering, etc.

For their efforts these posters were called GC spies and other hysteria. And now this thread shows the cowardly, fascist tactic of attempted naming, smearing and marginalisation used by killers in the EOKA/TMT days.

Hence popular members vanish. (cont.)

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 18:29

(cont)

And, in my opinion, the reason these posters are now picked on is anger and frustration from many of those who attacked them for highlighting the corruption and lawlessness in the TRNC. Instead of listening to the members' warnings they carried on regardless - and ended up losing all their money and, in many cases, their health. And, not being big enough to accept responsibility for their own foolishness, they seek someone else to blame.

Intolerance of alternative views is an uncouth personality trait. It makes a mockery of freedom of speech and the right to one's own opinions - which can be freely ignored by those who disagree. These people were easily duped, so it's simple for someone connected to the TRNC regime to turn them against any "enemy" to protect the gravy train.

It leaves me with a sense of sadness that so few of the old posters capable of witty and engaging debate are around because of people old enough to know better. Sadness, and a vague whiff of wee.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 18:35

msge 82



Just as a matter of curiosity. Who specifically do you miss on here?

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 18:37

Message 83, probably Dryboak/Jason/Pt Pike/Eric Seans/ Suzanne/Juliet etc etc etc.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 18:41

msg 83,

mmmmmm, Stubs, cypruswine, apc100, juliet, Jerry to name but a few. Who do you miss? Did you ever get involved in bullying them off the board?

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 18:43

I miss so many of them. Wynyardman, Coachie, apc. Jeannie doesnt post so much. Dee cyprus. 6ms. to name a few xxxx

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 18:46

I think some people should be examining their own consciences for allowing the forum to deteriorate so badly and losing quality posters.

jimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 18:50

Re : Msg 29 - I'm still none the wiser - presumably only the Mods can answer this one?

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 18:51

Zoots.....fear not, I am still around being witty and engaging in debate, also no whiff of wee on me yet.



Anychance of you putting your sailor boy photo back on the board ? (poilte request)



Well sussed Rowlo.



LOL,



Tigger.



XXXX



PS. MMMMMM's though a little misguided at times is still worth a slot on the board.

jimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 18:53

Tiggy - I will always support 6M's reinstatement on this forum.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 18:54

msge 85



Zoots



members can leave for a variety of reasons, probably nothing to do with bullying. Most people probably realise they have a life/or should get a life.



I miss Robnjo, Wynardman, Marvo, Waddo, Winslow, Orangekezzie, winslow, bradus, mover (although he was definitely bullied off the board by an individual) and many more. The one I most miss is Erkan. Where are you, you old devil?



Who do I bully off the board. I only have contact with one person outside of this board. I am pretty certain he would not accuse me of bullying.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 18:54

I can't imagine mm's being bullied off any forum zoots more than can be said for the likes of classy village girl!!

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 19:08

msge 91



forgot to mention 'cyprusishome'. He is a guy who seems to make things happen

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 19:24

msge 85



Sorry Zoots, I misinterpreted your question



Did I bully people off the board? Well all the characters you have mentioned seem quite tough. As GinaC says, there is no chance of anyone bullying 6 m's off a board. He is far too tough and can look after himself.



I can definitely say that I was forceful in my exchanges with Juliet, but she was way off base with some of her remarks. She may have had good intentions and genuinely wanted Cypriots to reunite, however many of her statements were just not factual, in fact many were just made up.



At the end of the day, this is a pro and biased North Cyprus board, many have invested their life savings over here, so those with an opposing view are likely to get a rough ride, in the same way that those living in the North will get a rough ride on south cyprus dominated forums.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 19:59

I was just wondering in many 44 member go onto a South Cyprus Forum ?







Spider,X

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 20:03

Well if you try to bully on 3 cyprus forum, you'll just end up on the naughty step with pollymarples and she'll let you share her liquorice allsorts and vimto, that's hw to deal with bullies.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 20:15

Who is smearing who here really ? Who is really the more cowardly ?



Me who posts openly, as who he is, what he thinks and who he thinks it about and why he thinks it and why he thinks such personal accusations are valid critisim in regards to this specific poster or the poster who says, from behind an obsured identity such things as



"And now this thread shows the cowardly, fascist tactic of attempted naming, smearing and marginalisation used by killers in the EOKA/TMT days."



At least when I make claims about zoots, I do so directly and show why I think the way I do and why I think it matters openly and honestly and am prepared to debate such accusations in an adult manner. I do not make continual indirect insinuations (I am an agent of the TRNC, I say what I say because of vested interest, I am a bully, I threaten people on forums and countless others such , dare I say it, smears) and then refuse to back these insinuations up.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 20:19

ilc msg 94,

What interests me is how most CY44 members don't seem to let reality bother them but a few can't handle it and are in a kind of denial. Thankfully we have people like NN who among the jokes throws in a bit of honesty with comments like: "Come on, we all know we came here because the property was cheap, no questions asked and the interests rates were high. But now the tables have been turned and people are in trouble." He get's stick for the "Devil's Island" comments but he's absolutely spot on.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 20:25

Zoots as far as I am concerned you can not claim to be a champion of reasoned informed debate on cyprus issue, then also claim in post things like 'the ECHR protects citizens in the TRNC but not non citizens' and then refuse to respond when challenged as to the truth of this claim (and countless similar others in the past) and if you knew it to be true or not when you made it.



Nor do I see how you can possibly claim here as zoots to be disgusted at attempts to 'out' you in terms of your multiple idenitites and real world identity, when you have taken active parts in threads on cyprus-forum.com to 'out' buyers of disputed deed property in the TRNC with the implicit threat of future legal action against them in the RoC once their real idenitites are discoverd.



Now if you want to say flatly that your are NOT the poster Eric Seans on cyprus-forum, then I will never mention your multiple ids as zoots again. If all you can do is deny that it relevant then I will not leave it.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 20:42

Have I challenged NN on claims like "Come on, we all know we came here because the property was cheap, no questions asked and the interests rates were high. But now the tables have been turned and people are in trouble." even though that is not true of myself and some others who use these boards ?



No I have not.



Have I challenged him when he claims (to parpahrase) "TC are crooks" without any qualifaction of some , or too many or anything similar.



Yes I have and I will keep doing so. Not because I am a bully, or want to silence him or because I am an agent of the TRNC, but because such an unqulifed claim is simply not true.



You keep calling me a bully and a coward amongst other things. Again I ask can you show one other example other than yourself where I have bullied anyone on any forum over 8 years of posting, or threatened anyone. Will not be being able to do so stop you from making such accusations against me directly or insinuated ? I doubt it but am always willing to b

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 20:47

Read again the warning at msg 80:



"This is getting personal , keep on topic or it will be closed



Simbas"

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 21:07

That is your answer then is it ? That is your idea of reasoned adult debate is it ?



Should I ask the same questions again but replace you specificaly with 'some posters' and 'certain people' and ask at the end if the persistant avoidance of such questions is not a factor in why former 'popular' and 'quality' posters simply give up trying to have a reasoned adult deabte and stop posting ?



Would I get answers then ?

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 21:19

msge 98



Zoots



Of course, people are going to push back. People are fearful about their future. That doesn't necessarily mean that the future is not bright. I know you would disagree, but your response is predictable.



People will challenge you because you seek confrontation. You enjoy prodding people. Why else would you keep coming back to this site. Your ethos is an 'eye for and eye' and revenge (your version of revenge) is a big driver for you. You wont show any vulnerability and weakness. Your growth is about showing more compassion and humility. I don't see this happening any time quickly, so you will come under fire here.



I for one am extremely pleased that Erolz is here to challenge you. I have had too many runs in with you in the past and it is just a waste of time and energy.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 21:29

ilc msg 103,

We both know there's no balance here for the reasons you stated. That's why so many more people got ripped off than needed to. Because the only ones who warned about the corruption and lawlessness got pushed off the BBs by others who couldn't back out of their "dream". Then came Orams, mortgaged land and all the rest of it and the minority posters were proved right. The bullies and TRNC-or-nothing merchants ended up with egg on their face and looking very foolish. It's what Pollymarples calls "HISS" - Head in the Sand Syndrome. You should have listened to the warnings rather than shoot the messenger.

"You enjoy prodding people."

Hey, I'm as human as the next guy. But please, not the wrinkilies.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 21:36

msge 104



"Then came Orams"



I remember your joy and exuberance when the announcement was made. You revelled in this and gleefully rubbed this in to peoples. Again no compassion and no mercy.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 21:40

As ever zoots you will continue to ignore whilst professing to be a champion of reasoned adult debate. None the less I ask is it relevant that whilst posting here and now that the reason why so many people got ripped off in the TRNC is because 'naysayers' were silenced on forums like this, yet have argued so often before here and in other places that there is no way you can accept that 'carpetbaggers' in the TRNC were not aware they were buying 'stolen land' in the TRNC to counter any claims of 'bought in good faith by such people' and cite how you were perfectly able to work out what was going on long before widspread use of the internet and any other non stupid person could have done likewise.

I absolutley beleive it is relevant and valid and fair in such a debate to raise this discrepancy for you to be able to comment on. I do so however with 8 years of experience that tells me it aint gonna happen. What a bully I am.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 21:40

It's a fact of life that people move on... I used to frequent a pub in the UK but once the conversations had gone full-circle a few times I found the place a bit boring. As one of the people who constantly drag the conversation back to the same subject matter Zoots, you are in danger of doing the same.

You started this thread. You have bullied more than your fair share of contributors... so what's your point? I'm sure some of the ex-members have left because they got fed-up with you and your pro-GC anti-Turkish stance. You seem to go through phases but reading your postings elsewhere I can see that your strategy has once again focused on causing discomfort and a few ripples here.

Me I'm not bothered... but I can see that some folk are beginning to regret your presence.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 21:53

Perhaps he thinks he is one of the so called "popular posters"

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 22:06

I just don't know why Zoots feels the need to continue with his offensive remarks about people who are older, most people who have settled here are retired folk but that doesn't mean we have no right to an opinion or that we are all senile. There is no need for it and actually weakens his argument, it just shows him up for what he really is. So Zoots, do you want debate or are you happy just to carry on insulting people for whatever reason you do it, straight answer please.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 22:09

Straight answer ,....you must be joking





He'e about as straight as a pigs dick

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 22:12

msge 110



"He'e about as straight as a pigs dick"



Is there something you need to share with us turtle

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 22:12

Trev !!! And you a gentleman, shameful .

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 22:28

111....no nothing to share here move along now

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 22:52

Lilli..I am still around and i read most of the posts on here,and I cannot for the life of me understand why people who go to live in the TRNC in there retiring years ,have to get involved in the politics of the place.All it does is cause bad feelings and people falling out with one another.Why dont you all just enjoy what you have payed for,the sun and the country and sod everything else.Let the people who OWN the country sort out its problems becxause I am sure none of the locals care one iota what you all think should be done to make things better. If people get banned off the site it is simply that they have over stepped the mark(sorry about the pun) and there is apenalty to pay. If you do not have rules then you have anarchy and that then becomes really nasty.So why dont you all calm down and enjoy your lives out there.At least it seams you have the better of the deal,you could always come back here and be an anarchist along with rest of the crap we have here....

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 22:59

Hey up Coachie......how you keeping mate

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 23:01

Oh you are still my lovely coachie and i have missed you. Good advice I wasnt going to get involved with this and I keep out of so many now. (not like the old days love). I miss you and Dizzy . I only post now if I want to try get a home for a dog. I answered because I miss our time we all had even if he is pike , I do not care he has some good points as does Errol but its not the same. Keep in touch love xxxxxxxx

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 23:04

Yes I agree Lillie, coachie has some good advise....

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 23:15

message 114



Coachie great to see you back. I still think Maggie was the best thing to happen to the UK. But we won't go there!!



Chris

p.s. Hope good health still follows you. xx

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 23:22

Though some of us ARE 'locals' and we (well I at least) DO care when blantant lies are being told about our country over and over year after year by indivduals who never justifiy the lies they tell when challenged, and make out they have "absolutely no agenda apart from redressing the balance and pointing out realities.



I am afraid that is very upsetting.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 23:22

Nrse awful..why did you ave to spoil it by mentioning the unmentionable...



Turtle...still going strong and guess you have seen on the news ..we are back in charge at Stoke Council...



Catch you all later....

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 23:40

Erolz,

I hope you have not misunderstood my saying "I'm not bothered... ". I certainly did not mean that I don't care about falsehoods and unsubstantiated propaganda.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 23:41

Msg 114,

Very good advice there coachie which I accept entirely.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 23:48

Well have a look here then Groucho



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/62523.asp from msg 68



A more dispicable and blatant slurring of Cypriots, based on falsehood and unsupportable claims is hard to recall and for a forum like this that is saying something.



It is that kind of post and the apparent indifference of so many who normaly have so much to say about so many things that may well prompt me to take one of my regular 'holidays' from this forum.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 23:51

Let me offer you a few brochures.

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 00:10

Msg 123

Follow the sun because there's bugger all of it here at present! Are you clouding these matters?!

You hide your email address yet 'Zoots' doesn't, I wonder why?



Richard

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 00:22

Great stuff guys,hold the back page i sense a cameo role from Wynyardman coming along,



Paul.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 00:28

Now that would be very nice Paul..he just the other day bless him..





Hows thing going Paul good I hope..Maybe we will meet on day on the road not travelled as yet lol





Spider,X

cypgab


Joined: 09/01/2010
Posts: 338

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 01:14

Message 125: You hide your email address yet 'Zoots' doesn't, I wonder why?



Perhaps he'd rather not have the offensive emails?

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 01:54

Way off track.



Any chance of ending this as it is past its sell by date.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 03:31

msg 125 'hidding' my email address is indicative of something is it , but hiding your idenitity from the multiple others that you have used here in the past and currently use on other fourums over the years is inidcative of nothing ?



In any case I have in the course of offering help to posters here, repeatedly publicaly posted my email address in numerous threads, the same single email address I have had for well over 11 years now I might add.



pathetic.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 12:41

msg 125



I have on good authority that zoots, pike and all the rest of his names in the past has sent messages to persons that have left an e-mail address. They were not very nice.



Beggers belief how some get banned for trivial things and this attention seeker comes and goes as he pleases.



Can any moderator explain why ?????????

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 12:47

Zoots, the comments made in msg 28 is typical of you. What a little Sh*t you really are.



I wonder if you make such comments to your mate Mmmmmm...............I think not.

iffytimes


Joined: 07/05/2011
Posts: 20

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 12:54

take a look here ( http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/62737.asp ) to see why

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 16:48

Richard to Erolz: "You hide your email address yet 'Zoots' doesn't, I wonder why?"

Yes, funny that isn't it. Someone plasters other people's names and personal information on the internet yet hides his own email. How brave and manly.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 16:52

zoots let more rubbish from you. My full real name is on this forum, my email is on this forum, my address is on this forum, my phone number is on this forum, you just have to search.



it is not possible to edit your personal details but I have hidden nothing, unlike yourself who has been hiding for years and years now, does not have the guts to post as who they really are or even consistently accross all their many many IDs and then dares to accuse me of 'hiding'.



pathetic yet I exepct no less from you.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 16:59

and you had the audacity to reffer me to simbas' post 80 ealier in this very thread, where she asks people to not be personal and stay on topic, and having done this a handful of posts later you are making personal accusation against me that are not on topic.



typical in my experience of your behaviour.

PaulW



Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 651

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 17:51

Why is Zoots (Pike, Sal and various other identities) allowed to stay on this forum? Simple question that requires a simple answer.









Hi Paul , it certainly sounds like him , but sounding like someone is not proof in it'self , for me personally , i would want hard evidence in order to ban him .

Simbas

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 18:24

I asked a simple question Paul, why does Zoots feel he has to insult people, I'm still waiting for an answer.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 18:55

Paul msh 137 because he and others with many IDs can sadly xxxxx

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 19:11

This thread is now closed.



Reason: Thread went off topic and the continuation of personal posts

Simbas