Gulets their rubbish and sewage

spangles


Joined: 22/10/2008
Posts: 411

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 19:18

Gulet owners are still emptying their tanks and throwing rubbish close to shore. I went to Mosquito beach this afternoon and the sea was a mass of sewage and rubbish - absolutely disgusting. The tourist season has only just started, but what a filthy mess. Hard to believe the boats anchor there to allow their passengers to swim!

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 19:39

2011, the "Year of Tourism", promoting "sustainable tourism"... Words, words, words.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 19:53

Did you take photos, 'spangles'?



DC, or his photographer friend did; and when I posted the 'link' [apologies if plaigiarism committed, DC!] on a recent topic, of this nauseatingly revealing and common scenario, I was bombarded with 'excuses'!

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 19:56

Tenk there is NO excuse. x

rigsby


Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 912

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 20:02

Is anyone running the Mosquito beach and villa complex now?

spangles


Joined: 22/10/2008
Posts: 411

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 20:14

Tenakoutou - no I didn't have my camera or phone on me. I'm not sure I would have wanted a picture of it anyway - too grim.



Rigsby - not sure what is happening with the complex. There has been a minor "facelift" taking place - bar area re-roofed, pool emptied, cleaned and in the process of being refilled, gardens tidied etc. The place has fallen into such a bad state it is desperately needed, but it's only just scratching the surface. I think some of the chalets are still rented out on a long term basis. It is definitely not operating as a holiday resort at the moment

rigsby


Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 912

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 20:39

Thankyou, spangles. I used to talk to the former owner of the complex. Such a shame about the place going downhill.

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 21:15

Re: Msgs 3,



Can we see this picture.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 21:19

What do is is ask the boatmen hassling you for trips at the old harbour what they do with their sewage and gash. If the reply is unsatisfactory tell them so then name and shame them here.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 21:22

Msg 8: get onto DC's website! - Sorry, I'm not going to 'cook my cabbage twice.' - I got lambasted the last time!

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 21:27

@ msg 10, Tenakoutou: Thanks very much! Don't worry - you get used to being shot at...

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 21:56

Re : Msgs 10&11,



I'm roaming over DC's website - I can not find it!

Dear Crusader, any chance of the link please?

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 22:29

Hi all,



Please excuse my ignorance,but is it actually against the law to dump like this in Northern Cyprus,



Paul.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 22:39

@ msg 12, Clarissa2: I can't find it either - I remember vaguely that Bo de Visser has taken such a photo (beach which rubbish)! Maybe Tenakoutou can give a searchword for my web site? Or just write down the link?

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 22:48

I think I found the picture: ▶ [ http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/Beach_in_TRNC.jpg ].

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 22:55

Re : Msg 15,



Marvelous!



The nation should be ashamed!

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 22:58

Re : Msg 15,



Sorry, forgot to thank you.

Tango1


Joined: 19/02/2011
Posts: 1151

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 22:59

Msg 13, it's irrelevant whether its illegal or not to behave as the Gulet owners are doing. The long of short of it is, they shouldn't do it regardless.



Tango1

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 23:18

Totally agree Tango,just wondered what the penalties were,if any,for such a disgraceful act,



Paul

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 23:41

I have been on several gulet trips and have never seen this, are you sure spangles that we can blame specific owners of gulets ? I am very surprised at this.

mahdel


Joined: 28/05/2009
Posts: 255

Message Posted:
08/05/2011 00:24

On a slightly related note, the other day I was down at Akdeniz beach taking a walk. After walking about half a mile of rubbish strewn beach from the sign proclaiming it an official Protected Turtle Nesting Area I came upon the carcass of an entire dead cow of somewhat significant size. So it's not only the gulet owners causing all the problems, though I have no doubt they're doing all they can to ignore any and all environmental regulations, just like everyone else.

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
08/05/2011 06:55

The subject of 'clean seas' is a contentious one, whilst the majority of boat owners I hope are environmentally aware and do not discharge within at least 6 miles of the coast and preferably further I Know it does not happen.

It happens closer than that for the following reasons

1. The majority of boats do not have a holding tank

2. If they do there is no pump out facilities in North Cyprus

3. There are only a small handfull of boats that venture more than swimming distance from the shore.

I am in Goeck at the moment probably the most sensitive areas as regards to pollution in Turkey discharging here means at least a 2.5K euro fine.

But they have pump out facilities both in marinas and a barge that moves around the anchorages.

As regards rubish strewn on the beach,yes some of it is local but you must remeber there is a major trash line current just off the coast here that circulates clockwise a lot of the waste originates in Syria and Lebanon, rough weather brings it ashore

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
08/05/2011 07:23

Well, 'Hippo', they must drink a lot of Efes in Syria & Lebanon!

Deniz1


Joined: 28/07/2009
Posts: 3829

Message Posted:
08/05/2011 07:44

My family have two tour boats and i can assure everyone that we never dump rubbish at sea in fact we have been to beaches to anchor and then moved on if it is dirty. The dirty water is pumped out but we do that as far out as we can and away from beach areas. We need a good reputation to stay in business which is getting harder every year and we want to protect our lovely seas and countryside. Sorry to say there are a couple of boats that dont care.

Tango1


Joined: 19/02/2011
Posts: 1151

Message Posted:
08/05/2011 09:42

Deniz1 (Msg 24) If you know there are 2 boats that are being stupid, unhygenic and downright disgraceful, can you and the other boat owners do something about it? Afterall, if there are only two as you say, they are painting you all with the same brush and therby giving you all a bad name. As making a living these days is difficult enough I would have thought these particular boats would be the first people you approached.



A thread like this on a well read Forum does all of you no good at all does it?

Deniz1


Joined: 28/07/2009
Posts: 3829

Message Posted:
08/05/2011 10:15

Msg 25 I agree please believe me we have tried. There is also the work permit problem a lot of them employ people and dont get them work permits we have tried contacting the authorities they come and do a spot check then go away again and not much more happens.

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
08/05/2011 10:37

msg15, Good Photo DC, but it does not depict the rubbish dumped on the Beaches by the Local Picnicker's !,...

kiwikid


Joined: 18/08/2008
Posts: 496

Message Posted:
08/05/2011 12:33

Just wondering, did you actually see a tour boat dumping rubbish and toilet waste, or did you assume it was from one of them. The boats normally make a trip out with no one on board to empty there tanks. If you saw one then this would be very disappointing.

spangles


Joined: 22/10/2008
Posts: 411

Message Posted:
08/05/2011 12:56

Pugwash - message 20. On the rare occasions that I have been on our boat and followed the gulet route it becomes very obvious that the dumping is in the places where the gulets anchor i.e. escape beach, mosquito beach etc. and close to shore. I am talking raw sewage as well as general rubbish.

Yesterday I was on foot, but it was early afternoon after and shortly after the gulet had left. I can see the masts from home. There is one anchored there now as I type and I hope to goodness that none of their passengers has gone for a swim.



Deniz1 - thank you for your confirmation and concern.

Deniz1


Joined: 28/07/2009
Posts: 3829

Message Posted:
08/05/2011 15:36

Get the name and report them to the harbour master. Also there are health and hygene inspectors around most restaurants would have contact details. Ask the owners about insurance next time anyone goes on a boat trip dont accept the cyprus shrug ask to see the papers.Also life jackets where are they and how many? Many boats "borrow" them from each other. i am not coming over as a goody goody but when we obey the rules i get angry with those that dont.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
08/05/2011 16:16

brings a whole new meaning to "the place is a shit hole"........................

Deniz1


Joined: 28/07/2009
Posts: 3829

Message Posted:
08/05/2011 16:29

i was just waiting for one of your so predictable comments.