New topic for one purpose only

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
11/05/2011 10:53

To get pipie to answer the question without Simbas closing the thread, no other contributions please



OK pipe

How do you answer the fact that you got an e-mail from the developers in April 2008 stating that the DEVELOPMENT was complete and asking for the final payment of your dues and your signature on a handover document at that time as well, THREE FULL MONTHS BEFORE Glencoe took on the maintenance, and yet you clearly state

*I blame Greg for taking on a site that was not finished, Greg mislead me and other owners who lived thousand of miles away into thinking the site was finished, asked for maintenance and asked for hand over documents to be signed.*



Now please just answer the question asked in clear and concise terms



Pipie must answer this question or be banned for life for making an unfounded accusation

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
11/05/2011 14:41

654 Views and still no answer



BTTT please

billybob


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Message Posted:
11/05/2011 18:29

1159 now



18.25 hrs

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
11/05/2011 18:55

nick nack billy bob chap - leave poor pippie alone.................

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
11/05/2011 19:55

Sorry - the person in question is in the new supermarket on the new road near the new restaurant near the new ????? out east - update to follow

Chegwin


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 775

Message Posted:
11/05/2011 20:16

I dont know if people can be sued for being stupid but I do know they can be sued for slander............

Seems a ded cert if my brief was on it.

hodgeliz


Joined: 16/10/2010
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
11/05/2011 20:49

NN pippie and pipie two different people on this board, never mind eh, keep playing with your ping &pong balls lol

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
11/05/2011 21:05

mess 7 - god bless you. liz.................

Scoty


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Posts: 846

Message Posted:
11/05/2011 21:20

1345 views at 2120. Obviously a LOT of interest in the awaited reply to this one.

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
11/05/2011 21:27

Msg 1

A dead easy question to answer; alcoholic amnesia! I wonder whether you keep a daily diary of all your correspondence? I doubt it!



Richard

rowlo



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Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
11/05/2011 21:29

will the scousers win the league before the reply is forthcoming ? lmfao.

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
11/05/2011 21:36

Hello all

Please do not get this topic closed as it is important that pipie understands the seriousness of her accusations, and an answer is awaited as to how when the developers informed her in April 2008 that the SITE was finished, how she can blame Greg for misleading her ? when Glencoe didn't commence operations till 1st July 2008,

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
11/05/2011 22:22

billybob I thought you all had your own website for you site and your problems ? All the very best wishes and all that you get everything sorted.





Spider,X

kittyfun


Joined: 11/04/2011
Posts: 181

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 00:09

Pipie is on line now so maybe !

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 00:11

I stand by what I say !!

kittyfun


Joined: 11/04/2011
Posts: 181

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 00:13

pipie we have waited all day for an answer and again you have dodged the issue, you blamed somebody for misleading you when it was someone else now thats not nice and the least you could do is apologise

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 00:14

Hooray, is that it???????



You got your answe,r another thread that has run its course or another slanging match?????

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 00:24

Pipie to refresh your memory you said that

**I blame Greg for taking on a site that was not finished, Greg mislead me and other owners who lived thousand of miles away into thinking the site was finished*



Now there is definite proof that this is a falsehood and you were in fact told in an e-mail by the developers on the 17th of April 2008 that the site was finished and your apartment was ready for hand over, and at that time Greg was not even involved on the site, so you are saying you stick by your accusation that Greg was responsible for misleading you on this

Thank you

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 00:26

There all as bad as each other and if it was left to me i would string em all up with their heads dangling in a bucket full of piss )

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 00:27

cooper youre welcome to try

cooper


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Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 00:28

But then again i have always been known for being to lenient )

kittyfun


Joined: 11/04/2011
Posts: 181

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 00:35

pipie I am afraid I must join the anti side - I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt to see if you had the moral strength to admit you were mistaken in the face of what has been put forward, but sorry no!

Pipie


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Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 00:36

Cooper known also for haiving a foulmouth !!

Jeannie


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Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 01:24

Pipie - there are a lot of things worse than some mild swearing, surely?

Chegwin


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 775

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 06:01

Claiming the 5th will not go down well in court.

Seems done and dusted to me.

Guilty as charged.

I would be a very worried person if it was me who had made these allegations and false accusations.

Seems it is all documented on here and probably backed up somewhere else.

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 07:16

Disappointed but not surprised by lack of reply. Don't know details, but hope someone has the proof to stand by what they said - especially in accusations against an individual for all to see.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 07:20

mess 25 - worried ??



the legal system is like a laurel and hardey film...



why would anyone be worried ??

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 07:23

Chegwin I can assure you I have nothing to concern myself over. I can back up all what I have stated and MORE so no concerns from me I can assure you !! Have a good day everyone !!

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 08:35

Oh NN I dont think there would be any action taken in the disneyworld courts here, but when things are posted on the http://www. then in the UK maybe lol the judicial system there are only interested in facts not invention and peoples petty grudges, so we shall see.

So let me assure pipie she has now got a lot more to concern herself with than frozen bacon



But pipie is after all the mistress of the lie and the body swerve.

clairegordon


Joined: 18/11/2010
Posts: 105

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 08:49

Not wishing to jump on a bandwagon, but my opinion is in tennis terms 6-0 6-0 6-0,

pipie you made a statement and followed it up blaming someone for deliberately misleading you, when if fact they were nothing to do with the place when you got notification that the development was finished, this is all any court sitting in the UK would be considering in giving a ruling, ouch !

I doubt if that can be bodyswerved even by the ever evasive pipie

Jovial_John


Joined: 31/01/2009
Posts: 1024

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 09:05

Can somebody inform me please. Pipie claims to be a customer of the "Gorgeous restaurant" ( http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/63089.asp ) and "very nice brand new supermarket" ( http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/62362.asp ) but I sense that the true involvement is somewhat different. Is Pipie an owner or employee?

If so then Pipie is condemned by her own posts as a long way short of truthful and I will know how little weight to give any future recommendations from her.

Chegwin


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 775

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 09:10

In Pipie World JJ, everything is wonderfull.

She is not an investor in either establishment, nor Mardos or indeed any other commercial ventures in TRNC as far as I know.

Just waiting for an answer to the original post so lets stay on topic.

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 09:20

You will wait a long time cheggers old chap, the person (keep having to delete when I type la) is incapable of giving honest answers



Jovial john,

pipie feels the need to deflect from serious topics by printing trivia, she has continually defamed someone on this board for the past two plus years with immunity from the mods, only this time she has not been too clever about it and openly named the person and told a deliberate lie of which there is sufficient hard evidence to prove the lie, she has also refused so far to qualify her accusation that the person deliberately misled her, simply because she cant.



All of this could have been avoided if pipie had been big enough to admit she made mistakes (not only with her investments/purchases in TRNC)

Chegwin


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 775

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 13:29

Bl**dy ‘ell.

More hits than the Beatles.

Folk checking up on a hanging or what?



But, still no answer.

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 15:08

Did you expect one,

Only people with nowt to fear answer questions with straight answers and speak the whole truth

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 15:13

Long live Cyprus 44 bet he is seething that more hits on here than his forum ever would have !! LOL

Chegwin


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 775

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 15:16

Toll thy bell with caution......................and all that.

So, now you are back on, do we get any sort of sensible answer?

There are a lot of people waiting.

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 15:22

I agree chegwin - been waiting a long time to read the proof re these accusations.

OR will it be another 4000 views???

Danatnorth


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 105

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 15:28

This all sounds a little one sided.

Is it ok for me to ask you billybob are you Greg? or related to or in a relationship with Greg? Also you seem very unhappy that pipie is blaming this 'Greg' for miss leading owners of unfinished property even though (this is how i read it!) He was charging maintanence fees when the site wasn't completed?? He doesnt sound whiter than white either.

Yes you could attack me for my opinion but i only say what i see.

Chegwin


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 775

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 15:59

The site is still not completed and the present M/C have been charging fees for a couple of years and from what I know they still are.

Stand to be corrected.

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 17:36

Dan you seem to have been kicking around the forum for a couple of years now, and should have picked up on the various threads about TQB, so as an apparently intelligent being, let me categorically state here for the record and it can be verified by the board owner I am Defo not Greg, that said I fully understand his situation and the situation on TQB site, where he invested a considerable amount of money after being talked into a venture to run the place by the part owner of the pub on site, who subsequently pulled out, leaving Greg to find other people to run the thing as he had no wish to run it himself, his (legal) company took over what the developers said was a finished site (with some promises of supply of plants etc) and the promise of a full list of owners of apartments, he was assured by the developers that all owners would have to pay maintenance, so a maint. fee of £48 pcm was set for the first two years, great I hear you say,

Cont

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 17:45

But alas no when the guy handed over £20k to the developers for rental of office space and 3 shop units and staff accomodation for the first year, then the problems began, there was no full list of owners, far from it, to start with there was a list of only about 13 people, together with a lot of e-mail addresses supplied by two individuals which were mostly false, Glencoe wrote to those people they could contact and said they were going to be doing the maintenance on behalf of the developers with whom they had a contract (which now it would seem was useless) and maintenance would start on the 1st of June 2008, later put back to 1st July 2008, the m/c fought long and hard to try and find out who owned what on the complex, while employing 3 men to do the gardens and prepare the pools, they even had a full time cleaning woman on site doing the common stairwells etc, they eventually after three months got all the outdoor pools up and running and also the indoor one,

Cont.

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 17:54

During this time they managed with the help of aTURKISH gent seconded to the developers, to get in touch with 42 owners out of over 100, and of those owners, 34 agreed to pay the £48 monthly maintenance from day one, but Mrs E (pipie) did not, instead she kept bombarding the company with questions, questions they could not answer, because the developers had told them the same as they had told her, eg that the site was finished, she got that e-mail to the effect that the site was finished in April 2008 from the said Turkish gent. and asking for her final payment, this was 3 months before Glencoe took over the contract.

The company struggled to make the site good and the amount of payers could not sustain things, and pipie and 6 others would not pay their fees, one of the people who is now on the so called interim committee, did not pay a penny in maintenance either despite many promises, they were demanding a contract etc (which was fair enough)

Cont

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 18:00

but they still dont have one and they are paying now ???, pipie did not pay anything in the first 6 months, and it was about this time that Glencoe decided to pull the plug and walk away from the contract, they gave the developers 3 months notice as per their contract with them as I understand it, but they have been vilified by pipie as being villians for over 2 years, she has made numerous accusations including intimating that they may be defrauding clients, and ultimately with her latest attack on this board in the past few days on a recently closed thread, making accusations that are unfounded and can be proved as such.

Now you can make your own minds up, but no doubt some on this board will wish to spit more venom.

breezyboy


Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 18:03

Dan

You obviously do not know Greg or you would not have come out with such rubbish. I have seen first hand the level of service given by Glencoe and by Greg personally. Professional, perfect and always reliable.

How many other owners on TQB have made so many futile and pathetic attacks as Pipie.

You will have seen in the 2 years that you have been on this forum hundreds of nonsensical posts by Pipie and a complete lack of reasonable replies to questions asked of her.

I might be forgiven for thinking you were a friend of hers if she had any.



I am amazed that anyone thought they could possibly get a straight and honest answer out of this person.



Come on mods do a decent job and ban her for life for irresponsible and incorrect postings. You might help to keep the forum from losing more members as I for one do not wish to be associated with any organisation which condones such irresponsable people and just allows them to get on with their puerile behaviour.

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 18:15

Msg 41...

""I fully understand his situation and the situation on TQB site, where he invested a considerable amount of money after being talked into a venture to run the place by the part owner of the pub on site""



You've said it all, "talked into" "part owner" & "pub"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_LsCRgs_Pg

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 18:20

Both BBs above. Thanks for trying to put things in perspective and putting 'facts' on show. does the accuser now have a response - or as most other threads - goes to a new restaurant on a ............................



Still 'she' is allowed to verbally crucify people on here with no action taken against 'her/him'



WHY??

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 18:28

Tootie and your point being ???



I have just had a phone call to ask to put one of my statements right so if I got it wrong I apologise, but I have been informed that it was in fact not at the 6 month point that Glencoe decided to pull the plug, but after 7 months when Greg decided he could not possibly pay for a further years rental of the shops (one of which was gifted to the owners of the pub for their use) offices and accommodation block, which by the way had become uninhabitable because of the large cracks in the fabric of the building, the workers were so afraid to live there, as will no doubt be verified by someone called Baris .

The other partners in the business seemingly decided to close the offices over the Easter period in 2009, the busiest time on the calendar to date and that was the final straw for Greg who worked single handedly over the entire weekend himself while his other partners were taking time off.

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 18:46

Greg provided alternative accommodation for the workers so that they could sleep in comfort of an evening.



Mrs E (pipie) sent an enormous amount of e-mails to Glencoe asking so many questions and demanding sauna and Steam room etc. be put in place before she paid anything (all available on here for all to read) and to start with they were all answered cordially (all available for perusal at any time), however after several months of getting nowhere with her, the people in the office decided enough was enough and they told her that they would not be responding further to her as she was officially not an owner, in the opinion of the man that is what pushed pipie over the edge and the venom started and has not ceased since, the proof that pipie had already known that the developers considered the complex finished can be posted on here if need be to prove the lie that Greg misled her and other owners, but suffice to say pipie has the date and time of the e-mail sent to her

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 18:55

At Easter 2009 Greg suffered a near nervous breakdown, he had been suffering ill health for some considerable time prior but had postponed getting treatment due to the delicate situation on TQB, but as he had had enough he went back to the UK immediately after Easter and left the company affairs in the hands of his other two partners one of whom left the business a couple of weeks after Greg's departure.



Arms and legs can and will probably be added as is the way on this board, but this had all to be said because as has been said above by breezyboy who as I have been reliably informed, has considerable legal experience in the UK from sitting on the bench, it is easy to knock when you are not in full possession of the facts please remember there are always two sides, and many have suffered on this board because of vindictive posts.

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 19:16

Sorry meant to add, message 36 epitomises what has been going on

Danatnorth


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 105

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 19:29

That is a HUGE mess that Greg has got himself into! Why is it always the good guys who have to learn the hard way 'Trust no one in business' and the slippery little toe rags always come up smelling of roses! Im sorry if i offended anyone but it did sound a little like bullying to an 'outsider'

I personally dont think a forum web debate will ever sort or even solve a problem of this scale so maybe the moderators are right to close down threads that lead to slanging matches but on the other hand people shouldnt throw mud and not expect to get some back in return.

Maybe it is time for the forum to be a little more 'select' with member application.

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 19:32

Re msg 51(re msg36) - am I correct in believing (through other folk / meeting etc.) this is the ONLY site where this person is still a member? No wonder the 'long live etc.'

Banned from most other sites due to attitude / personal abuse etc. Still trying for top 10 here though -got a few restaurants to check out then !

Mod in disguise?????

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 20:46

BTTT













Reply / Answer??

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 21:29

Billybob



You believe that Pipie gets special treatment and protection on the board. she doesn't however you are never going to believe that. The situation is that even if every word you have said and every opinion you have of her is true, the way you pursue it and Pipie on this forum breaks the rules of this forum. This is a thread addressed at an individual member, Pipie. and as such is against rule 8. You have in the past negatively posted on comments made by her on other topics quite seperate from the TQB issues.



Whilst it is clear that this means a hell of a lot to you Pipie doesn't have to respond or justify her statements or opinions to you or the board. If you have sufficient proof that supports your opinion then as you have done post it in direct response. If you get an answer then fine.



Cyprus 44 is not the Star chamber or a grand jury hearing.



I will close this thread, do not reopen it or start another complaining about this fact.



H

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 21:31

This thread is now closed.



Reason: As specified above, the thread is in contravention of the rules.

Isabella


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 199

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 21:32

I don't think a forum debate will every sort this person out.

She craves publicity and also uses this forum for free publicity and free advertising of her business

It is a self-centred person who positively enjoys destroying other people's businesses - my advice keep well away and hope she eventually disappears from the sites where she has caused so much unrest - I fear though it will be too late for the many normal, sensible people who are now suffering.