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misunderstood

Joined: 08/04/2011 Posts: 1004
Message Posted: 18/05/2011 07:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 38 in Discussion |
| At the moment both North Cyprus Free Press and 3 Cyprus forum are down. I have been informed that they both were the victims of massive attacks yesterday and due to pressures of work, the editor/owner does not anticipate them being up and running again for a few days. This attack coincides with my being informed that the Legal team working for Kulaksiz 5 have allegedly received Writs for Libel against Akfinans Bank Limited in the two most widely read Turkish lanaguage newspapers on the island. If I were paranoid I might think the Bank will not be satisfied until they have total silence form ALL press. Not accusing, just ,making and observation. |
misunderstood

Joined: 08/04/2011 Posts: 1004
Message Posted: 18/05/2011 08:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 38 in Discussion |
| I am a Luddite but my understanding is that the attack was of the same nature as the one that took out Cyprus 44 in the past. Seems that censorhip and dirty tricks have no barriers. |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 18/05/2011 09:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 38 in Discussion |
| It was a massive DDOS attack and so I am in the process of sorting out a more secure host for NCFP. But, the show must go and and so for a while we'll be publishing at http://cheguffawa.wordpress.com/ I have a busy two days of working for Cambridge University so use that link until further notice |
misunderstood

Joined: 08/04/2011 Posts: 1004
Message Posted: 18/05/2011 10:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 38 in Discussion |
| Do read this article, it is by a new contributer entirely unknown to me. Good stuf though. |
twaddle

Joined: 06/07/2008 Posts: 245
Message Posted: 18/05/2011 10:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 38 in Discussion |
| That link does not work. (at least not for me) |
juliamoons


Joined: 14/05/2009 Posts: 849
Message Posted: 18/05/2011 10:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 38 in Discussion |
| The link works fine for me. |
spangles

Joined: 22/10/2008 Posts: 411
Message Posted: 18/05/2011 10:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 38 in Discussion |
| worked ok for me. |
misunderstood

Joined: 08/04/2011 Posts: 1004
Message Posted: 18/05/2011 10:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 38 in Discussion |
| I think maybe you will find it does now twaddle although it is somewhat different to normal and definitely only temporary. What next I wonder? |
kaiserphil

Joined: 14/12/2008 Posts: 1096
Message Posted: 18/05/2011 11:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 38 in Discussion |
| Thought this site had gone as well, just now! |
walkerscott

Joined: 13/08/2009 Posts: 901
Message Posted: 18/05/2011 12:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 38 in Discussion |
| The observations made by many media platforms are beginning to have an effect and that is good. Well done to NCFP and 3CF and to the courageous TRNC Advocate Boysan Boyra who has shown he has integrity by proceeding against those who represent what is so wrong in the country. I will place the link on my site: http://www.no-deeds-no-money.moonfruit.com |
mmmmmm


Joined: 19/12/2008 Posts: 8398
Message Posted: 18/05/2011 14:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 38 in Discussion |
| Judging by the response times of CY44 right now - I'm guessing it may also being attacked.. but is now behind a better firewall on a dedicated server .. |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 15:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 38 in Discussion |
| That would not surprise me at all - strange it should be happening just as Talatkursat updated their webpage and surely would need to be employing 'experts' to do that - not that I am suggesting it is anything other than a complete coincidence.................................................. |
kaiserphil

Joined: 14/12/2008 Posts: 1096
Message Posted: 18/05/2011 15:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 38 in Discussion |
| I think you're right Mark, it has been very slow. |
Pugwash

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 15:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 38 in Discussion |
| Normal here today. |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 19/05/2011 07:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 38 in Discussion |
| An article on the temporary NCFP site today aimed at sufferers of HISS and those who silence Free Speech and Freedom of the Press plus a very funny cartoon. http://cheguffawa.wordpress.com The sooner we are back to normal, the better. |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 19/05/2011 16:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 38 in Discussion |
| there is so little interest it is hardly worth bringing NCFP and 3Cyprus back |
sloan


Joined: 24/02/2009 Posts: 808
Message Posted: 19/05/2011 16:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 38 in Discussion |
| If they were not so effective, the attacks would probably not have happened. I can understand how disillusioned people must feel when they have made the maximum effort and seem to be getting little support. Let's hope for a good outcome tomorrow. |
Lilli


Joined: 21/07/2008 Posts: 13081
Message Posted: 19/05/2011 16:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 38 in Discussion |
| I agree with you Sloan, Mal dont stop it. Its informative and truthful. I can understand your feelings though. Total apathy here. Best of luck K5 for tomorrow. |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 19/05/2011 16:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 38 in Discussion |
| Oh no Malcolm, after an ear bashing from a K5 member and now you being so down too. If not you? who? Never give in, never give up. Thanks Lilli, see you tomorrow sloan Paulinex |
Zoots

Joined: 05/02/2011 Posts: 669
Message Posted: 19/05/2011 17:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 38 in Discussion |
| Msg 3: "I have a busy two days of working for Cambridge University so use that link until further notice" Get you, Malc! Is that with an ordinary or advanced degree? |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 19/05/2011 19:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 38 in Discussion |
| Zoots, it's the Cambridge University Arms in Watford, where I work behind the bar during Summer and it's about 100 degrees at the moment |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 19/05/2011 19:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 38 in Discussion |
| Zoots - you are a wally. You find it hard to believe anyone is cleverer than you, the dog next door is pretty intelligent. Fetch.................... Nice answer Malcolm. Malcolm if there was no NCFP, what else could Pauline do to get arrested. |
DutchCrusader


Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 11281
Message Posted: 19/05/2011 19:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 38 in Discussion |
| @ msg 17, Malcolm: (...) there is so little interest it is hardly worth bringing NCFP and 3Cyprus back (...). ▶ Mal, it may not (only) be a lack of interest - there's an information overkill. Scanning all (Northern) Cyprus bulletin boards etc for interesting news will take you hours every day. Cooperation should be the name of the game: I wish for ONE big board or web site with all and serious news about (Northern) Cyprus. I grant all board managers their toy, but the result is what we have now - too many boards and web sites with fragmented news and little interest. |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 19/05/2011 20:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 38 in Discussion |
| DutchCrusader, I agree with you and would welcome several like-minded and free-thinking individual to come together to form a commercial online newspaper which could afford the £2000pa+ needed to stop DDOS attacks. I believe the "Cambridge University Arms" is currently under attack. Meanwhile NCFP will specialise on TRNC property and justice issues even if it only pleases a few hundred people. Although http://cheguffawa.wordpress.com is a bit of a mouthful I can see no reason in resurrecting http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com and have it attacked again. For those who didn't know, that was the address of NCFP from August 2009 until January 2010. |
walkerscott

Joined: 13/08/2009 Posts: 901
Message Posted: 19/05/2011 21:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 38 in Discussion |
| DutchCrusader Please let me have the links to all and any Boards and Forums on North Cyprus and I will place them on my site or within my site ... so that they are all within the one site when people are looking for information which may help a little. http://www.no-deeds-no-money.moonfruit.com Malcolm, you have done a marvellous job and if you wish I can place any articles on a page on my site as a back-up. |
DutchCrusader


Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 11281
Message Posted: 19/05/2011 21:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 38 in Discussion |
| @ msg 27, walkerscott: I started a kind of a portal some time ago, but it was too much work. Have a look (at the unfinished) pages here: DC's PORTAL: ▶ [ http://is.gd/kbiAT/keywords_home_page_of_dcs_portal ]. Why don't we all work together and make a real good bulletin board/newspaper/web site like I suggested in msg 25? Quality and no fragmentation of money! |
Lilli


Joined: 21/07/2008 Posts: 13081
Message Posted: 19/05/2011 21:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 38 in Discussion |
| Hans you and Walker Scott should get together, you both have your views and an honest approach to the problems here. Malcolm has done a very good job and I hate to see that he is disillusioned but sadly apathy reigns here. |
DutchCrusader


Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 11281
Message Posted: 19/05/2011 21:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 38 in Discussion |
| @ msg 29, Lilli: People working together don't have to agree on everything. When I worked for the newspaper Het Parool in Amsterdam we had 260 journalists and editors with at least 260 opinions - still we managed to make a daily newspaper. |
Lilli


Joined: 21/07/2008 Posts: 13081
Message Posted: 19/05/2011 21:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 38 in Discussion |
| Hans thats what makes it interesting, different views with one aim x |
TRNCvictim

Joined: 17/08/2010 Posts: 1417
Message Posted: 19/05/2011 22:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 38 in Discussion |
| Mal (mess 17) Please don't let apathy reign! your Countrymen need you!!!!! X |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 19/05/2011 23:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 38 in Discussion |
| Lilli, the only thing that disillusions me is the amount of effort compared to the return. The DDOS attack meant that the company that was hosting NCFP would not allow it to stay there. Without paying the sort of money that Izzet has paid to run Cyprus44 I can't see NCFP surviving except as the fairly protected but limited http://cheguffawa.wordpress.com - the money would not be justified |
philbailey

Joined: 17/01/2011 Posts: 3534
Message Posted: 19/05/2011 23:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 38 in Discussion |
| ask for donations 44 did |
TRNCvictim

Joined: 17/08/2010 Posts: 1417
Message Posted: 19/05/2011 23:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 38 in Discussion |
| Freedom of Speech Mal, thats what NCFP has (Cyprus 44 with donations) has no freedom of speech!!!!! |
misunderstood

Joined: 08/04/2011 Posts: 1004
Message Posted: 20/05/2011 07:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 38 in Discussion |
| Malcolm, I personally will donate half of the money i.e. £1000 it needs to protect NCFP, if it disappears, Akfinans and Akan Kursat will have taken something else from us. Pauline Read |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 20/05/2011 20:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 37 of 38 in Discussion |
| If we loose NCFP - then blackmail will have yet another victim |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 21/05/2011 09:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 38 of 38 in Discussion |
| I think NCFP is unique. That is not to downplay how important C44 is and North cyprus forum is. Each is different and special, to loose any would be a tragedy. |
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