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0maintenance


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23/05/2011 19:27

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What size is your pool and if under contract how much is it costing per month?



A 8x4 should be around £55 per month,if your getting it cheaper your doing well.



A 10x5 should be around £65 per month,if your getting it cheaper your doing well.



Warning,if your paying more then you need to reconsider and start shopping around for a better quote.



Happy chlorine free swimming folks





Amanda.



birdman



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23/05/2011 22:36

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12 x 6 at £60 per month winter and summer. At least once a week winter and twice a week in the summer. 150TL.



moxie


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24/05/2011 00:51

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170 stg per month can you do better ??? we have a few days to get a new pool man !!!



TRNCVaughan


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Moxie,



Is this a communal pool and how big is it?



gazmufc78


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email paradise-pools@live.com or telephone Kurt : 05338336982



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Birdman. your getting a brilliant deal,stick with it if your happy,we cant offer you better.



Moxie. i do not know the size of your pool,but you can call david if you wish @ zerochlor and talk to him,05338305302,if he can better the price for you he will.



He currently offers a NON CHLORINE maintenance package @ 8 x 4 £55 per month



A 10 x 5 @ £65 per month also NON CHLORINE.



No company in cyprus can offer this price for a NON CHLORINE POOL MAINTENANCE CONTRACT.



HAPPY CHLORINE FREE SWIMMING FOLKS



http://www.zerochlor.co.uk



TRNCVaughan


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24/05/2011 13:02

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If we fit an Aligator NON CHLORINE system to an 8x4m pool, Octopus will maintain it for £50 per month.

We have many of these systems in operation and most of them are DIY, they are that simple.

http://www.aligator.co.uk



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24/05/2011 13:04

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Vaughan. what is the set up cost?



Amanda.



0maintenance


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Vaughan.



If a customer buys a Aligator system,do they have to oxodize the swimming pool weekly or monthly or how often ? Or is there no need to oxodize when useing an Aligator?

If they do have to oxodize the pool when useing an Aligator system,what would they oxodize with,what product would they oxodize with and the name of that product please and cost per kg?



Amanda



gazmufc78


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Bought a chlorine free system( watermaid) 4 years ago for 750 pounds, guess what, it needed to be run for 6 hours+ a day. Now no one supports it and the original supplier says change to Aligator. think I'll stick with chlorine.



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TRNCVaughan



If the Aligator system is £1000 to set up and i want you to look after my 8x4 pool and pay you £50 per month on top of £1000 for supplying me your Aligator system and maintaining the pool for me,would i not be better off leaving my £1000 in the bank converted toTL with my other money and getting lets say 9% which converted back would be around £90 interest per year on the £1000.

so lets say i forget the Aligator set up cost of £1000 and take a £55 a month zerochlor contract on a 8x4 pool,that means id be £30 a year better off and also i would still have my £1000 in the bank,now if i went the other way and did not want to pay zerochlor £55 per month or the extra £5 above your £50 per month maintenance,would your Aligator system work Trouble free for me for 16.6 years? as that is the cost broke down for the £1000 dividing the £5 extra a customer would have to pay zerochlor if they did not have a Aligator system.

Does that make sense ?



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TRNCVaughan.



Could you please answer message 9,im very curious if i need to oxodize and what do i oxodize with and what price per KG to oxodize and the name of the product to oxodize? If im useing an Aligator system.





Amanda.



0maintenance


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Zerochlor.



Still the leader in northcyprus in offering a NON CHLOINE POOL @ a price no other company can match.

NO HUGE SET UP COSTS. No need to rely on extra Electricity. 100% chlorine free.



Still the same price now in the 3rd year as when it started 2 years ago.



That must be a 1st in cyprus (NO PRICE INCREASE)



The only way is the zerochlor way



0maintenance


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25/05/2011 13:43

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Message 10



was the watermaid really that expensive all those years ago?



Is it still being sold on the island or is it now a dated system and some other electronic gadget took its place?



TRNCVaughan


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0maintenance,



Take a look at http://www.aligator.co.uk

All your questions will be answered there.



There is a Watermaid stockist in TRNC. They are called Top Clean and they can be found on the new harbour road.

Chlorinators are not exactly dated as much as obsolete. The very hard water in Cyprus wrecks the cells and the electricity to run it now costs 3 times as much as it did when they were first imported. It is the cost of electricity now that has made chlorinators obsolete. Aligators run on half the power and their cells are not affected by the hard water here.



0maintenance


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Thanks Vaughan.



i think the Aqua park used to have a chlorinator,id heard the hard water had wrecked it and 12000 pounds or so up the swannie,as that was the cost of that chlorinator.

I asked you if it had been fixed,you said you thought it had,but in fact if you check i think youll find its a worthless piece of metal and not working,maybe they should fit an Aligator system in the aqua park,would be a great advert for the product.

Could you please answer the questions i asked you above in message 9 and message 11,as im curious regarding oxodizing and Aligator system.



0maintenance


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Vaughan Dear.



In message 7 you say, if we fit a NON CHLORINE Aligator system.But then in the Aligator website you say this,which should i take notice of?

“Our experience with Aligator has exceeded our expectations. Stubborn algae in hard to reach places and

slippery steps are no longer an issue. Chlorine levels are so low that they are negligible. The Aligator system

makes it a very competitive pool purification system. Our customers are delighted with them. The original

Aligator we fitted has performed extremely well, even in the very high temperatures and UV of Cyprus in mid

summer. Electricity charges in TRNC are quite high and the low running cost of the Aligator system makes it a

very competitive pool purification system.”

Octopus Pools - Northern Cyprus

Shouldnt a NON CHLORINE SYSTEM be non chlorine?



Sorry to be pedantic but i need to get facts correct,as i do not wish to mislead my customers with info when David is not in the office as we get asked about Aligator !



Pugwash


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25/05/2011 21:28

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My pool cleaning company used zerochlor for a year but I found many problems particularly with my hair and skin, sorry but it just did not work for me.



0maintenance


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So sorry to hear that pugwash.



I wonder which pool company you was useing?



yunus



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26/05/2011 03:10

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why? is zero chlore so difficult to use that a pool company would not know how to apply it?



just wondering !



i clean communal pools and holiday makers always ask me if i use chlorine or not as they say they can not smell any chlorine !



if you can smell chlorine in your pool, too much has been added.



what is important is that every product used, what ever, is checked and maintained correctly



kind regards



TRNCVaughan


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0maintenance,



If you read the Aligator website thoroughly you will see that chlorine levels are so low they are the same as potoble or drinking water, i.e. less than 1ppm, hence Aligators statement that you will have pool water which you can drink!

So, if you filled your pool from the tap and added Zerochlor you wouldn't be able to say you had a chlorine free pool, even if it wasn't you but the Belediye who had added it.



0maintenance


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26/05/2011 08:05

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Message 20.



Hi Yunus.



Some so called pool cleaners just dont know how to use zerochlor or even chlorine,the answer is very simple actually.

They are not pool cleaners or technicians,they have never been guided correctly,when david first arrived here not 1 pool cleaner ever checked the total alkilinity of the water of a pool,and all said whats that and why.



Zerochlor is not difficult to use if you know what your doing,and the difference with us and them is we know what were doing.

Secondly its so easy to over dose a pool with chemicals and all to often David goes to look at pools where SO CALLED POOL CLEANERS have been SO called maintaining pools and the chlorine levels are either so very high or so much low the pool is just turning colour.David has all his customers from other pools companies that the customer was very unhappy with.



Vaughan Dear. if we use a Aligator system do we have to oxodise the pool water and what would we oxodise with?

Cont



0maintenance


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26/05/2011 08:06

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Vaughan its illigal to fill your pool from your tap water unless your useing your own well to feed your home.



itfc1978


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26/05/2011 08:18

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This could run and run.



I have used the Aligator system for three years now.



YES IT DOES USE CHLORINE, A SMALL CUPFUL EVERY 10 DAYS.



But as the UK based company says the levels are so low you can drink the water.

Imagine the lawsuits in the UK if this was not true!



Would you drink poolwater treated with zerochlor?

What are the long term effects of exposure to zerochlor?



My pool is crystal clear and extremely easy to maintain,so easy I do it myself saving £60pm



I am sure you have many customers happy to recommend your product, I am happy to recommend the Aligator system tried and tested.



0maintenance


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Hi Mike.



I know the Aligator works good,im not disputing that,it was just a few questions that vaughan was not answering that would of made it go on for ever and a day.



Zerochlor works on the same principals as an Aligator system. silver and copper but in liquid form.



What are the long term effects of exposure to an Aligator system?



Would you drink poolwater treated with zerochlor you ask.



If i had to yes,but in most civilised countries we have bottled water,i think if some 1 saw me drinking from the pool each morning id end up down the nutthouse!!



TRNCVaughan


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itfc1978,



Thank you for you much appreciated recommendation.



0maintenance,



In answer to your question you don't need to add an oxidizer to your Aligator pool, but if you want to you can, and you can use a number of oxidizers, including chlorine, potassium monopersulphate or a liquid oxidizer which is now being imported into TRNC at a very competitive price.



I am aware of the rules regarding tap water and pools. I did say "if" in my example.



itfc1978


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Good lets call it a draw then, both are a lot better then shoving loads of chlorine in the pool!



0maintenance


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Hi Pugwash.



Would you like to tell me which pool company was looking after your pool as its a concern to us who this company is and how they have got zerochlor as we only sell to 1 other company,unless the company you was useing bought some of my product that was stole from my shop.



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Vaughan.



Now that is interesting,who is importing a liquid oxodizer to the island,id like to try that product with zerochlor,thanks for the answer @ last



TRNCVaughan


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0maintenance,



Sorry. That's something you'll have to research yourself, as I did. It wouldn't do Aligator any favours to see the Zerochlor system become any more competitive than it already is.



0maintenance


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TRNCVaughan



Thanks sweetie.



I think we have got around 3ton of potasium monopersulphate left from 15 tons,so we can still use that,but it would of been nice to be able to offer the customer possibly a less expensive alternative.



Thanks for your help and information Vaughan,todays project is to speak to siba and offsetsan or top clean near the new harbour,its maybe 1 of these 3 companies id think who would be bringing a liquid oxodiser. Do you know the cost of it vaughan and what size bottle its sold in?



Im sure you can offer us that information



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