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JohnDownes
Joined: 03/12/2010 Posts: 123
Message Posted: 03/06/2011 23:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 33 in Discussion |
| My name is John Downes, I run a wine importing business. Cape Wines in Catalkoy. Last year I did a deal with World Food (part of Supreme Supermarket). They would buy my wines and sell them to bars and supermarkets, thereby increasing my turnover. This arrangement worked well for a time. But then this January the payments stopped. They didn't pay for the wine the bought from me. They owe me about TL 170,000. That's serious money for anybody. Things came to a head this week, they told me to my face that they were not going to pay me another penny, sue them if I dare, and if I made a public fuss about it or started legal proceedings then I would get my legs broken. Nice people hey? They chose the wrong guy to intimidate like that. I don't walk away as easily as that. Not only am I starting legal proceedings, I am also inviting YOU, the good people on Cyp 44 to boycott Supreme Supermarket until this situation is resolved. |
Brinsley
Joined: 04/04/2009 Posts: 6858
Message Posted: 03/06/2011 23:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 33 in Discussion |
| No wonder the majority of TRNC business's deal only on a 'COD' basis. Best of luck with your 'name & shame' campaign and the recovery of monies owed. Scan, copy and post your account records which will give more credibility to your cause. Richard |
JohnDownes
Joined: 03/12/2010 Posts: 123
Message Posted: 03/06/2011 23:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 33 in Discussion |
| Thank you Richard. But as you might expect, the accounting records would take up more space than is allowed for posting on here. But be sure, my expensive and aggressive solicitors are on the case. These so and so's are not going to get away with it! |
philbailey
Joined: 17/01/2011 Posts: 3534
Message Posted: 04/06/2011 01:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 33 in Discussion |
| I thought on another thread they were going pay you ? |
Pipie
Joined: 05/01/2008 Posts: 5499
Message Posted: 04/06/2011 01:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 33 in Discussion |
| Crikey gets more like the wild west out there !! Hope all works out well for you John Downes. |
JohnDownes
Joined: 03/12/2010 Posts: 123
Message Posted: 04/06/2011 07:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 33 in Discussion |
| Message 4.... Yes Phil, that's what they told me, but it was just empty promises. |
gazmufc78
Joined: 03/09/2009 Posts: 366
Message Posted: 04/06/2011 09:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 33 in Discussion |
| Me thinks that it's about time we took a stand and show some solidarity to support each other, especially on this one. |
kittyfun
Joined: 11/04/2011 Posts: 181
Message Posted: 04/06/2011 09:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 33 in Discussion |
| In the meanwhile I will not be shopping at Supreme, nor will any of my immediate friends |
Tango1
Joined: 19/02/2011 Posts: 1151
Message Posted: 04/06/2011 10:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 33 in Discussion |
| Msg.5 I've always likened the TRNC like the Wild West before they employed Sheriffs!! |
moonoverwater
Joined: 06/08/2008 Posts: 224
Message Posted: 04/06/2011 10:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 33 in Discussion |
| sorry to this has happened to you John as we work together when we had the moon and had a great deal with you this is not fair |
Simhar
Joined: 18/05/2009 Posts: 227
Message Posted: 04/06/2011 10:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 33 in Discussion |
| Although I am sure I will get shot down for this, and no, I don't know either party in this situation but..... Is it wise to comment and become involved in anything where you only know one side of the story? As this looks like it will be a legal case and John has publicised his view which was what he wanted to do, maybe everyone else should stay out of this and not react to information from one side? Isn't this just the point that was being made on Alsancak's thread before it become another slanging match by mmmmmm and washerman? Just a thought |
JohnDownes
Joined: 03/12/2010 Posts: 123
Message Posted: 04/06/2011 10:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 33 in Discussion |
| Simhar, I think that's a perfectly fair observation. You don't know the personalities involved. In the coming few months we will learn whether the TRNC has a functioning civil legal system or not. |
Ridle
Joined: 01/01/2009 Posts: 144
Message Posted: 04/06/2011 11:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 33 in Discussion |
| Exactly what excuse have these people given for not paying their account? presumably this is a question you would have asked immediatly you knew the money was not forth comming |
marcosthechef
Joined: 30/11/2009 Posts: 646
Message Posted: 04/06/2011 15:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 33 in Discussion |
| Yes we only know one side of the story, but as most of you know I worked with John at Cape Wines for 2 years we are still good friends, during that time John was always fair, straight and honest with all his dealings with me, good luck with this one John |
JohnDownes
Joined: 03/12/2010 Posts: 123
Message Posted: 04/06/2011 22:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 33 in Discussion |
| Mssge 13; No excuse was offered. I was told, in so many words... "I am not going to pay you one penny more. If you complain or go to law and in particular if you bring it up again on Cyp 44 then I will see to it that you are beaten up, and your business will be destroyed. You will see a nasty side to me that you did not previously suspect". So, I can't say I haven't been warned. But me, I may be brave or more likely reckless and stupid, but I'm just not going to be treated like that. |
Brinsley
Joined: 04/04/2009 Posts: 6858
Message Posted: 04/06/2011 22:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 33 in Discussion |
| Nasty threats from a bully. Best protect yourself by posting his name just incase something should happen to you and then fingers will be pointed in the right direction. Richard |
Texas
Joined: 22/09/2009 Posts: 634
Message Posted: 05/06/2011 00:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 33 in Discussion |
| I would have been more worried if he smiled and said nothing! |
IbrahimAbi
Joined: 24/10/2010 Posts: 245
Message Posted: 05/06/2011 10:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 33 in Discussion |
| When I was a little boy i wanted a cowboy outfit, now i am surrounded by them |
parky
Joined: 13/06/2009 Posts: 182
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 14:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 33 in Discussion |
| After your public announcement can i ask if your legs are still intact? Or if it has caused any reply? |
Happy Hussar
Joined: 01/10/2008 Posts: 318
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 16:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 33 in Discussion |
| I find it hard to believe that a genuine family run business like Supreme Supermarket would stitch up a supplier in this way. I noticed this morning that South African wines were still on sale there. Surely you are not still supplying them John? Tony |
Deniz1
Joined: 28/07/2009 Posts: 3829
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 17:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 33 in Discussion |
| Is it not possible to remove the unpaid for stock? |
rowlo
Joined: 12/10/2008 Posts: 4796
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 18:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 33 in Discussion |
| he might have opened a hornets nest , supreme supermarket is retaliating , |
JohnDownes
Joined: 03/12/2010 Posts: 123
Message Posted: 07/06/2011 08:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 33 in Discussion |
| Message 20, any Simonsvlei or Simonay wines on sale at Supreme have not been paid for. It's just as simple as that. And as for Supreme being a genuine "family" business, you are quite right. Message 19, thank you for your concern, but yes I am still intact and the threatened assault has not taken place. Message 22, yes I just saw, but interesting that they opened a new thread rather than post on this one. |
negativenick
Joined: 10/11/2008 Posts: 6023
Message Posted: 07/06/2011 09:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 33 in Discussion |
| mess 20 - they can't stop themselves comes naturally.............. as that blond bird up the Tumbar said "Cypriots are nice people, until you involve money" and after 4 years in the KFC - i absolutely agree 100%..................... |
leprechaun
Joined: 07/06/2011 Posts: 24
Message Posted: 07/06/2011 09:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 33 in Discussion |
| I find it hard to believe that a genuine family run business in North Cyprus would stitch up a supplier / customer in this way. The t/cs are such nice people, advocates have a duty of care. estate agents always truthful developers /builders full of integrity banks never lend money against kochans without checking the kochan is available and suitable for security |
Pipie
Joined: 05/01/2008 Posts: 5499
Message Posted: 07/06/2011 09:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 33 in Discussion |
| Bang on the button message 24 !! |
Brinsley
Joined: 04/04/2009 Posts: 6858
Message Posted: 07/06/2011 10:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 33 in Discussion |
| Msg 27 Hardly, this is supreme bandit Country! Richard |
JohnDownes
Joined: 03/12/2010 Posts: 123
Message Posted: 22/07/2011 06:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 33 in Discussion |
| Back to the top..... There has still been no offer of settlement from Supreme/World Foods and those who are boycotting them (to whom I am most grateful) should continue. Thanks everybody. |
Deniz1
Joined: 28/07/2009 Posts: 3829
Message Posted: 22/07/2011 08:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 33 in Discussion |
| Dont know who is boycotting them as they seem busier than ever when i pass by. |
Redwine
Joined: 15/01/2009 Posts: 565
Message Posted: 22/07/2011 11:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 33 in Discussion |
| What's the thread for supremes counter post |
negativenick
Joined: 10/11/2008 Posts: 6023
Message Posted: 22/07/2011 11:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 33 in Discussion |
| well i for one ain't using them........... |
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