The price of a G & T

birdman



Joined: 20/09/2010
Posts: 690

Message Posted:
03/06/2011 23:13

I've just returned from the opening of the NEW SWELL BAR.



The cost of a LOCAL G & T is 8 TL !!!



That's more than a full BOTTLE off LORD JIM gin.



Needless to say, I will not be returning !



Gerry

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 01:18

Does seem a little on the high side if the gin was local spirit.

SAFFI


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 342

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 03:04

Well = They won,t get away with those prices for long !!

Pandy


Joined: 27/08/2010
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 20:55

What a total rip off!!!!

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 21:08

Why do you not have one at Ercan, over 20 TL

ranger5


Joined: 29/03/2011
Posts: 151

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 21:10

birdman, the only way to beat these places is to vote with your feet. Done it a number of times

ranger5


Joined: 29/03/2011
Posts: 151

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 21:17

Meant to say also, even if they get the prices right eventually you will probably still boycott the place. Rightly so, they should have got it right first time, or even below average to get people in. When will they ever learn.

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 21:18

Birdman, they are brain dead. On that analogy a G&T in the UK should now be £13. £12 for a bottle of Gordon's, a large measure, not too much for Schweppes and off you go to return again and again until the place goes bust!



Richard

ivebinad


Joined: 03/06/2011
Posts: 224

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 21:31

From my experience a lot of the bars etc just rip people off.

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 21:39

Probably why it's called 'Swell' bar. It swells so much it bursts!



Richard

Simhar


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 227

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 21:55

Here we go again, trashing a place without even thinking about it. For someone running a bar it's not just the cost of a bottle of gin and some tonic, but it's all the running costs involved in providing that drink, Rent, permits, staff, utilities the list goes on and on. Look at the number of bars in this area that have come and gone. Selling cheap is just not sustainable as a business. Look at the Rooftop bar, cheap as chips - gone. Now it may be that you are not willing to pay 8tl for a local drink and mixer and that's fine, maybe the guy hasn't worked out his cost relative to demand, but why do you feel the need to trash him here. If you don't like the prices don't go back, but give the guy a break. Why is it that some people just can't wait to jump on somebody trying to run a business?

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 22:08

Brinsley;

Why do you feel the need to compare the prices here with UK?Did you do the same when buying a property here?

For most of you,this is a holiday island,pubs in UK are places to go every day.





Salahi

Simhar


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 227

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 22:23

Nice point on the property but the comparison is worse than that Yorgozlu. There are 40 measures in a 1l bottle of Gordons, any average cost of a G&T in London is £2.50 times that by the 40 measures and you get £100 (250tl). No way do you get 40 cyprus measures in a bottle more like 10 which is 80tl. Then take into account the footfall in London compared to TRNC. Rubbish, just people intent on sticking the knife into a bar.

birdman



Joined: 20/09/2010
Posts: 690

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 22:24

Simbar.

What do you think C44 is all about ? It.s about informing other people of our experiences so hat they too do not fall into the same trap. I have NOT trashed the place, I merely informed other C44 members of My experience.



I initially ordered a LOCAL Gin at the bar and was told that it would be brought to me at my table outside. The drink was duly brought to me and I asked the price. I was told 10 TL ! I refused to pay and complained at the price. It turned out that I had been given an IMPORTED gin. ( Still expensive!) They changed the gin to local and I accepted it. It was only later, when I had finished my gin that I asked to pay for it and was told the price of 8 TL.



Now where Simbar am I trashing the Place ?



Having run pubs I know the overheads involved far more that you do and drinks should be priced to cover costs

However, most people would agree that if your prices are too high then you will have fewer customers who can get the same drinks for a cheaper pri

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 22:35

Salahi

For what I paid here, I could have bought a whole Street in Liverpool, at that time! You miss the point, everyone knows that drinking out is going to be more expensive than boozing at home but levels of GP have to be within the margins of acceptability. The level of mark-up was a comparison between cost price and retail and how that, hypothetically, would compare to be charged in the UK on this bars business model. I wish them well in making a go of it!



Richard

Simhar


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 227

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 22:37

Birdman, it's simhar by the way.



My comments were not aimed just at you, look at how the thread continued.



I also have experience in running a restaurant and bar in both the UK and the TRNC so suggesting you know the overheads involved "far more that you do" was presumptive and inaccurate.



-However, most people would agree that if your prices are too high then you will have fewer customers who can get the same drinks for a cheaper price(?)-

whoever "most" people are they should also agree that this only applies if you have a high footfall, buying business with cheap drinks in the TRNC is not possible with such a small and spread possible customer base. Look at the number of cheap places that fail. Even when charging a reasonable price to make a small profit the bar trade in the TRNC is tough, much tougher than the UK.

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 22:46

Msg 16

A 1LT bottle slightly different to 70CL one! What GP did/are you working on?!



Richard

Simhar


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 227

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 23:07

Richard



It still works. 70cl in the uk would be 28 measures at £2.50 £70 (175tl).



Believe it or not Rents are comparable as are utilities but not the potential customer base.



All of this is besides the point however, Birdman pointed out the cost of a drink which he found expensive, fine but why did the others have to jump in and trash the bar. If you don't want to pay 8tl for a local drink then don't but calling it a rip off or comparing it the cost of buying a bottle at home or the UK is just wrong, I repeat it is a nightmare running a bar out here with people expecting drinks at way below a sustainable level and this sort of rubbishing does not help.

ivebinad


Joined: 03/06/2011
Posts: 224

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 23:29

Why are we not allowed to say it like it is in the TRNC, it is a haven for ripping off people, not just the tc's and turk mainlanders but the expats as well, they rip each other off.

birdman



Joined: 20/09/2010
Posts: 690

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 23:39

Simhar,

Firstly, apologies for wrongly assuming that you were unaware of the Pub/catering trade. ( My pub had 400 covers).( Another one with 60 covers)



It is fair to say that a local G&T in most local bars is priced at 5 / 6 TL and that Imported Gin is priced at 8 TL



In the Hotels and clubs one would expect to pay more to cover the overheads, that is understandable.



If I had been in the MERCUR HOTEL for example I would have had NO complaint. (That's IF I could have bought a LOCAL Gin in there !!! LOL)



Yes It is a nightmare running a bar out here, that's why so many close ! Because they haven't done their homework on pricing and costs before they open up.

I give you bars that are doing well because they HAVE done their homework and have kept their prices extremely low. Mambo / Jessics / J. K.'s / Ravine / Cyprus Queen, to name a few.

Swell bar has had 4 owners in the last 3 years, there are so many bars in the area, shouldn't that tell them something? I do wish them wel

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 23:41

Msg 18

A Gordon's & Schweppes = £2.50 UK

A lord Jim (Large) & splash of Fruko tonic = 8TL (£3.20) TRNC

You just can't please the discerning drinker!



Richard

Simhar


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 227

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 00:13

Ahhh Birdman with your message 20 I cannot disagree!



Doing their homework would have been helpful! But even that is harder out here. No available market information, no demographics etc. There are also so many hidden costs that raise their ugly head especially if you start to do well.



5 or 6 or 8tl you pay your money and take your choice! reporting it as an experience, that is what cyprus44 is about, the following posts rubbishing the bar I think are unnecessary.



As for the successful bars, for the trnc and in terms of still being in business yes you are right. But we can only wonder about profitability.

Simhar


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 227

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 00:20

Richard



Gross profit (not including overheads) of an english bottle sold at £2.50 per drink = £70 - £13 = £57



Gross profit (blah blah blah) of a TRNC bottle sold at £3.20 a drink = £32 - £3.20 = £28.80



Then compare the number of patrons potentially in the UK v TRNC



overheads are similar but takings are not!



enough said methinks

shayneward


Joined: 01/08/2010
Posts: 107

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 12:18

birdman.thanks for the info regarding prices as it will be helpfull to me and my family.although price is not everything i find 8 tl a bit excessive and will not be trying the bar as a result

Simhar


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 227

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 12:21

And there you have it! how a thread should work. Birdman posts a thread stating the prices he was charged for a G&T. Shayneward notes the price and decides not to use that particular bar. No malice, no cries of "rip-off" etc. You can't say fairer than that!

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 12:54

Maybe like Escape beach they are looking for quality customers rather than quantity!

ozwozz86


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 13:19

Birdman



Rather than running your mouth behind a computer screen, why didn't you take the EFFORT to talk to the owner/manager(not a waiter) and explain to him your experience of the place regarding atmosphere/comfort/scenary etc. And THEN you could have given him your opinion on prices, and how you genuinely feel it would effect their business in the long run. I am more than certain that they would have respected your information, re-thought there price scheme and probably given you a drink on the house(just as I do when people are genuinely helping me out).



Coming on here and acting like the Alsancak price patrol does not do anyone any favours.



Also, please do not reply to this comment with an "I was just informing the members of Cyprus44 of my experience as this is an information board'' blah blah blah. Utter crap. You have done nothing other than damage this man/womans business 2 days after an opening, BEFORE even talking to the person in charge!



Pathetic.

kibrisvisitor


Joined: 28/05/2011
Posts: 98

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 13:34

local g&t 500 meters away at hillside 4 tl great host nice surroundings.

andrew4232



Joined: 04/07/2009
Posts: 1543

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 22:20

it appears to me that the first post was meant to get things going against that bar if am wrong am sorry but it make me think !

ozwozz86


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 22:23

Couldn't agree more. Another bored member with a LOT of time on his hands.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 22:28

dont think thats to steep , would cost double in the uk ?

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 22:34

Msg 30

Leave Birdman alone. What he forgot to add was the floor laptop entertainment and the topless barmaids serving his 8TL G&T which, in my opinion, justified the price of the drink.



Richard

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 22:37

Was it a large G & T?

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 22:43

Richard,re 15;

Thats fair enough,but I didn't see anyone complaining when Bar-o-monte were advertising their drinks for 2.50tl per pint because they were too cheap!

ozwozz86


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 22:47

Aferim Yorgozlu.



Just as I you can see through the rubbish on here. Can't wait for Brinsley's comment...

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 22:47

yorgo , thats to cheap man , shouldnt be allowed what next g&ts for 5tl

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 22:51

Salahi

At that price they were making an operating profit and hope they were full to the brim with happy, well behaved beer swilling drinkers!



Richard

birdman



Joined: 20/09/2010
Posts: 690

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 22:53

ozzwozz86



Pathetic !



Of course I spoke to the Owner before I left and the Englishman behind the bar about their prices. Plus some of the local Cypriots I have come to know and like.



I don't need to " run my mouth behind a computer screen" and people like you will NOT intimidate me!



I post positive when it is due



Gerry

ozwozz86


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 23:00

I think I've caught your bluff Birdman my old pal; to my recollection the owner does not speak a WORD of English if it is the new bar I am thinking of.



Also funny how you didn't mention speaking to the owner in your first 3 or 4 posts of this topic.



And yes Birdman, you are running your mouth behind a screen.



Have you tried bored.com by the way?

cypgab


Joined: 09/01/2010
Posts: 338

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 23:14

Well said Ozwozz on all your posts. It is the bane of these boards, members making wild accusations and trying to affect others livelihoods.

Maybe birdman speaks Turkish though!!

AJ had a thread about this recently with the same thoughts, so maybe with a few threads on the topic there will be more support.

ozwozz86


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 23:20

Thankyou cypgab,



Yes possibly Birdman does speak Turkish, it's just surprising how he didn't mention speaking to the owner in his first few posts.



I thoroughly agree, theres too much of it going on here the moment. I try to refrain from comment, but sometimes(such as a post like this) it escalates.



I best be off to bed now. I really hope these kinds of posting stop in the future beacuse they are getting ridiculous.



Regards,



Oz - Cine Miles

birdman



Joined: 20/09/2010
Posts: 690

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 23:27

No I don't speak Turkish



The owner is MY BARBER and my Cypriot friends translated.



They too told him the price was high!



ozwozz86 you make a lot of assumptions without knowing the facts



cypgab. marvelous ! please explain the "Wild accusations" ? A price was stated. Where is the accusation in that?



Gerry

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
05/06/2011 23:31

Msg 39

You are off your trolley,



'owner does not speak a WORD of English'

What's 'bye' in Turkish? Yes you've got it, 'bye, bye'. That makes two words!

And goodbye to you too!



Richard

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 00:57

Richard;

with no disrespect to mentioned place/bar,at 2.50 a pint,you'll only attract 10 bob millioners whom would be capable of trushing the place down after 10 pints,at a cost of 25 liras.I have lived long enough in uk to see what cheap prices had done to youngsters.Particularly before and after football matches.

TinLondon


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 01:26

I think these postings are all good, and like someone at the top said, people will always vote with their feet, so if people are being ripped off then they'll go else where... It's all good info though, i don't think i'll be paying 8TL for a local G&T, especially if it was the same stuff they served up to the Russians in Bodrum a few weeks ago. Greed never pays!

ozwozz86


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 11:16

Brinsley



You lost all credibility as a poster in my opinion the day you slagged off our bar a few days after its opening. You may remember claiming that our Efes were 7tl as you THOUGHT we had taken over the old Colours Fashion, even though we were in the complete opposite direction! You couldn't even be bothered to get off your arse to check where we were, but still claimed "it will never work with Efes at 7tl, just like the old place Colours Fahion didn't". Granted, you did apologise and claim you had got your "knickers in a twist", in the process making yourself look a right wally, BUT, what if I hadn't been online and able to put you straight? You trashed a bar with completely innacurate information before checking it out for yourself.



As for you Gerald, thats marvellous how you claim to have spoken to the owner. It's funny how that wasn't mentioned in your first 4 postings though...bit fishy if you ask me. Anyhow, I will NOT sit here and watch a business get trashed

ozwozz86


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 11:21

due to a few bored members. This week I will be going down to the bar and explaining the response to the owner about a few drink prices. I'm more than sure if spoken to nicely, he will understand the situation and make a few changes.



I would NEVER boycott a place due to someone like Birdman stating a drink price was a bit high. It's petty, and childish.

kibrisvisitor


Joined: 28/05/2011
Posts: 98

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 11:55

2 bars approximately 500 meters apart 1 charges 8 tl for a loal gin ant toin the other 4tl both serve food both just off the road ,



Both mine hosts are Turkish Cypriots neither is a hotel or TOP NOTCH venue , which one gets your patronage ?

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 12:15

brinsley: "What he forgot to add was the floor laptop entertainment and the topless barmaids serving his 8TL G&T which, in my opinion, justified the price of the drink."

Was it served in a tall schooner between a nice pair of jugs?

birdman



Joined: 20/09/2010
Posts: 690

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 20:14

ozwozz86 message 46



I also didn't mention which stool I was sitting on or which table I occupied in my first few comments !



I didn't mention the colour of the barmans hair or what he was wearing ! Do you wish to know the shape of the glass also?



Oh and by the way the name is GERARD NOT GeraLd



I also NEVER asked for a boycott of the place. (After all he is my regular barber and I occasionally get shaved there !!! LMBO)



Gerry

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 20:29

Msg 46

Will you please copy & paste my odious comments about your bar. What is the name of your outlet? I do not recall the, then comments I made about your place however, if I apologised then for any error I made, why are you bringing it up now?!

Are you still in business making loads of money? I hope so!

As I warned you before, leave Birdman alone. I'll take you on anytime or anywhere!



Richard

ozwozz86


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 21:10

Gerald



Your initial post was to cause a stir, and that you have done with aplomb. And watch your sarcasm regarding barmans hair, stools etc. If you can mention refusing to pay 10tl for an imported g&t in your second post, its very simple to also state you spoke to the owner/manager!



Don't worry Gerard, I will be taking my laptop and showing this thread to Serdar this week, and doing the best with my minimal Turkish to translate. It's a shame the poor man can't come on here to defend himself against such two-faced people like yourself. And to think you went to his hairdressers!



Remember Gerard, theres nothing a Cypriot hates more than someone publicly insulting their business.

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 21:15

Msg 52

And your reply to my questions posed in Msg 51?



Richard

ozwozz86


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 21:22

Brinsley,



For ALL to see:



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/show2.asp?messageID=23967



Messages 6 and 11.



It's lucky I had access to this forum wasn't it? My point is, if I hadn't have said anything, no-one else would have known it was an error and people such as ShayneWard would be avoiding the place due to YOUR lazy ill-informed, know-it-all comment!



Serdar may not have 100% got his prices right yet(he may even be going for higher market clientele, who knows?), but why slag him off before giving him another chance?



You guys really are sad. I feel sorry and embarassed for you.

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 21:36

Msg 54

Correct, I made an error and accordingly apologised. Are you there tonight? On your reply I'll hobble down to meet with you within 30 minutes of your reply!



Richard

ozwozz86


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 21:48

It's an error that can affect people's livelihoods. More people on this forum should realise that before they post.



I am off until Wednesday night. You are more than welcome to come down and have a chat with us then. We have a Salsa night from 10pm.



I also think Birdman should go and have a proper, constructive chat with Serdar. Something that can benefit everyone.

TheScarlets



Joined: 14/04/2009
Posts: 877

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 22:07

Guys



When I go out towards the end of July I am going to pop in for a good slurp here and will report back to you all. You never know there may even be new owners by then!



Never been ripped off yet although I do ask the price of drinks beforehand i.e. beer and wine, after a few close scrapes



Instead of whinging guys why not call down yourselves and say hi from Cyprus44



Shame Gengis couldn't make a go of things there

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 22:08

Msg 56

' come down and have a chat with us '

Are you the self-imposed head of a mafia family? 'Us'! The offer was for you and I to meet this evening on a one-to-one basis, myself not having to carry my bazooka into the affray! Sorry, you lost and you're out of time!



Richard

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 22:10

ozwozz86;

Hat off to you for all your unselfish efforts.

ozwozz86


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 22:31

Richard, it's just me and my partner down there working of an evening, and our lovely waitress. A waitress that will obviously have a good laugh when she finds out she's a part of the mafia, as she's all of 5 foot 2!



Don't bother coming down if you don't want to Richard, we couldn't care less to be honest.



Yorgozlu



Sagol. I do try but theres just no getting through to them.

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 22:35

Msg 60

Are you there now?



Richard

Brinsley


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Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 22:46

Msg 60

I have re-read where I made the mistake,

'Situated where Fashion/Colors cafe is' (sic)

Try doing your own PR/Advertising next time to avoid confusion.



Richard

ozwozz86


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 23:01

"Situated where Fashion/Colors cafe is the road opposite where HSBC & Dress Agency are (sorry crap at directions) or if coming from town near the end of the road where Nulten hair salon is after the HSBC..."



Richard, I am almost a third of your age and I have made you look a right berk since last night, and I have continued tonight. It's almost too easy.



I told you in msg 56, I...am...off...until...Wednesday...night. Do you'o speak'o the anglais'o?



I am bored now and am going to bed.

Simhar


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 227

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 23:05

Ha ha Richard, now you can't mention a business when giving directions? Msg 62



Msg 58, attacking a guy for his use of English (bet it's not his first language) and you don't seem to be able to read English as in msg61 asked him if he was there now when he has already told you not till Wednesday Msg56



You muppet!

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
06/06/2011 23:13

The International Date Line has just been changed, doesn't anyone keep up with the news?!

I'll see you Wednesday, but before the loud clack of music! What time is best for you?



Richard

ozwozz86


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
07/06/2011 15:16

After 6 and before 10

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
07/06/2011 15:24

Confirmed, but go easy on me, I've only got my walking stick!



Richard

Brinsley


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Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
08/06/2011 19:13

Oh well, arrived at 6.30 had a beer and Ozkan's younger brother told me he was otherwise engaged and left at 7pm. What a waste of time & space!



Richard

ozwozz86


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
08/06/2011 23:04

Brinsley, my brother must have told you I was UPSTAIRS!?



I have got work to do, I don't spend all day sitting downstairs waiting for the ''wally brigade'' to come down!



And if you can't be bothered to come upstairs to visit me(or ASK my brother to get me) when I'm WORKING in the office, then more fool you.

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
08/06/2011 23:23

Msg 69

With due respect, I did tell your Brother that I was expected and was waiting for you!



Richard

ozwozz86


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
08/06/2011 23:45

My brother is a part of the ''wally self-indulged brigade''.



Come down another day, my number is 0542 874 5489. If I'm in a good mood I'll get you a drink on me.



If you decline, it's your loss, not mine!

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
09/06/2011 00:04

Okay, I'll draw a line at that, offer gratefully accepted!



Richard

breezyboy


Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
10/06/2011 13:23

Only just seen this one.



So, barkeepers union of TRNC- was this bar owner trying to rip off the original poster or is he just plain stupid when it comes to pricing his drinks. It has to be one or the other.



It is only 12 TL for a large Bombay and Schweppes in the Cratos. very reasonable I think.



If I get my prices wrong to my customers go to a competitor and I don't blame them at all.



meanwhile you could run an interesting competition. How many posts out of 6124 are positive and friendly? There are loads of members with nothing else to do but go through all 6124 and check

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 09:26

i think that G&T wa a bargain i paid 15tl for a vodka n coke at Mansion yesterday and 20tl for a JOHNNY WALKER !!!! thats robbery lol i wont be going there again and yes i did speak to the manager !

AnthonySmith


Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 09:43

I don't think it's the bar owners per se. I do believe the rents being charged - and this with buildings empty and unused - are way too high. Someone suggested it was £800 a month for that unit where Swell is now. That was a comment to me and I don't know how true it is.

Drinks here are cheap compared to the UK. Plus, you get to sit outside in beautiful scenery. Go to Bristol, or Birmingham or Manchester and order a G&T. Try to get served in the mass of plastic pubs. Say no to ice and get it anyway. Rarely a smile from the person serving. Just my experience.

Look at the bars that have started up and failed. Each year you get a different influx of owners. Some offer cheap prices and last not very long. Others offer "normal" prices and last not very long. Some charge "expensive" prices and, yes, you've guessed it, last not very long.

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 10:06

Moaning about the price of a drink is hardly trashing a bar, you probably paid the barmans wage for an hour within that price.Is there a premium to pay for sunshine and scenery?I would hope not.Comparing prices with TRNC and UK is what most of us do, isn't that partly why you are there and not here?



There will no doubt come a point for many of you where the cost of living versus the sunshine equals packing it all up and heading back to the UK, G&T not withstanding.Hahahahaha...

elkiton



Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 514

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 21:06

UP at Bellapais, next to the Abbey we attended a wedding last week. Beautiful scenery, excellent service and food, but two drinks cost 20tl for a white wine & lemonade and a small bottle of water. Whilst not prices I would ordinarily choose to pay, there were many local Cypriots dining after the wedding was finished, and all seemed happy to have their glasses refilled time and time again.

Is it a "British thing" to need to have rock bottom prices everywhere one goes?

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 21:09

Probably on a different tariff

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 21:26

you cant have it all , what you saved on the property more than balances it out then some ?

ozwozz86


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 21:28

Msg 77.



Well said.

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 22:53

Scenery and sun are free!!!it comes with the island.....you cant charge for that !!

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 22:58

btw i dont own a property ...so my opinion is purely based on expensive drinks!!, £ 8 for Whiskey ...robbery !!

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 23:03

I love a single malt

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 23:06

Visit me, everything is free as a host of hospitality!



Richard

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 23:07

Do you run a bar Dick?

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 23:28

Msg 85

No, but I'd bar you!



Richard

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 23:30

hahah sooo funny u 2 lol

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 23:30

Dicks a funny guy

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 23:32

u 2 lol