Homes from Hell on ITV

john-f


Joined: 31/03/2011
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 10:02

North Cyprus appeared on the Homes From Hell series on ITV on Tuesday, it showed a couples villa that the builder had failed to complete (Seems the norm)

Im sure a great add for property in the TRNC!

maddy


Joined: 12/01/2009
Posts: 24

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 11:51

How sad it is the norm! Can't believe the Government sit back and do nothing - not a good advertisement for the TRNC

Ballyboffin


Joined: 25/08/2007
Posts: 903

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 11:59

This is posted on another thread.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 12:41

Builders get there prices wrong in the uk to and things dont get completed,its a civil matter and the goverment dont get involved here either,what is wrong with some of you,dont you understand its a world thing not a trnc thing.



Dont buy off plan,make sure all the correct deeds are in place you will be okay.



It makes a change to see somewhere other than spain being shown on tv.

canyavuz


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 363

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 12:47

Agreed with stelee77 completely.



Common sense has gone out of the window. Why would you buy off-plan in a country that you know nothing about?

If you use your sense and act cautiously then everything will be ok.

If its too good to be true, then it probably is. If you see an offplan villa advertised for £60,000 there is bound to be something wrong!

flightholiday


Joined: 19/07/2007
Posts: 3217

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 15:49

Interesting they mention Kyrenia and Cyprus but I don't recall them making noise about North Cyprus or TRNC

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 16:02

I watched it a couple of months a go,and it happend in paphos to,a developer took lots of deposits and did not build a thing then moved to the czech republic.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 16:37

stelee77. Just because it's a world thing doesn't make what is happening in NC right does it?

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 16:59

Whats your problem.



Im only saying what happend last time i watched it,how strange you are,when have i ever said it was right or fair.



My point in previous threads was your just as likely to get stung on off plan deals in any country as you are in the trnc.Dont take risks do your homework and get it right.

cypgab


Joined: 09/01/2010
Posts: 338

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 17:00

Message 7: Builders get there prices wrong in the uk to and things dont get completed,its a civil matter and the goverment dont get involved here either,what is wrong with some of you,dont you understand its a world thing not a trnc thing.

Dont buy off plan,make sure all the correct deeds are in place you will be okay.



And if the builder decides to take out a mortgage on your land - what then?

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 17:38

I dont believe this.



You dont use a builder if its risky,you buy a resale property where the land and property both have deeds in the sellers name,you can then have checks done to make sure theres nothing outstanding on the land or property.



I believe this has already been said by someone else.



off plan can be risky,when you buy at discounted rates you have to be sure the builder can come up with the goods,and your right if money is secured on the land for the build there could be problems,these are things that a buyer has to look into themselves,if you cant get this information maybe its a sign to stay away.



The problem is when you go for the bargain the higher the risk,i have bought off plan in the past okay but there will always be a risk factor,with a re sale you pay more but what you see is what you get as long as you have a good solicter who does all the right checks for you,and if they will not do the right checks get one who does.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 17:51

stelee77 one of the big problems in the TRNC for non citizens buying property is the 'delay' inherent in the permission to purchase process, even with a resale property. It can be 'free and clear' of any encumbrances when you sign the contract to buy it, but not so when your PTP is granted, if it is granted, which could be years after you signed the contract and moved in. There have been changs to the law that make this delay less of a risk than it used to be but it still involves some risk that is hard to avoid totaly for non citizen buyers.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 17:57

Im coming of this subject now because i feel im coming to the point where i just want to say it how it is without holding back,and i know the truth really hurts and with some people obviously going through a hard time right now,it would be un called for.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 18:22

I know three people who have bought there,all getting ptp within the predicted 30 days,on re sale property.

This was in 2009/2010.

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 18:29

Well stelee77



don't hold back really tell us how it is, we all have broad shoulders on this forum. incidentally are you referring to buying in the UK or have you experience of buying in the TRNC. Reading your responses it appears that you have experience of buying in the TRNC. I don't think there are Solicitors in the TRNC.

araneae


Joined: 24/06/2011
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 18:33

it is available to download here http://dl.btjunkie.org/torrent/Homes-From-Hell-S02E01-HDTV-XviD-BARGE/4358f4a92ead0e649cd4c92ff6b4c9c068d278c02c8d/download.torrent

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 18:33

stelee77 if you know of cases where people have got PTP in 30 days I would most certainly like to hear about them. No one would be happier to see some credible evidence that this has happened in some cases than me I suspect.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 19:08

They have no reason to make it up.



Yes there are solicters in the trnc you plonker.



Look lets get this back on topic all the doom and gloomers thought they would watch homes from hell,and it was going to be about how corrupt the trnc was,and of course they were wrong because it simply is not true.



Its just what the angry people build up in there heads,i will say it again most people who use there head buy without problems it is a fact,so whats the point on going on about it.



If i decide to stay there i will buy without a problem,or build,anyone living in girne who wants to place a bet with me that i cant lets make the bet now,



quarmby your a sad little man in the uk if your not sure if there are solicters in the trnc you should not even be on this thread you weirdo,i invest in property for a living.



If you people like it or not most people will buy without a problem,its a fact i no it does not make the people who were stung feel any better,but its true.

fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 19:20

Stelee77



There are no solicitors in the UK, they are called advocates and there is a significant distinction between the 2.



PTP in 30 days - the only chance that this would happen is if the individual was a TRNC citizen. For an expat it is out of the question.



I truly wish you all the luck in the world, but I really think you need to spend a good length of time out here and have a very close look at all the potential pitfalls. How long have you actually spent here ??? Judging by your posts, you appear to think that the buying process is as transparent as it is in the UK - believe me it is not. Many people did their 'homework' only to be scammed further down the line by something that couldn't have been foreseen.



The best advice I can give is that if you are dead set on buying, only spend as much as you are prepared to lose.



Simples !!!!

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 19:21

Half the people on here are bored retired people with hardly or no connection with the trnc,its just somewhere where they feel somebody or part of something.



or people who have lost out and are bitter and twisted,and anti trnc.



then you have the strange ones who are only here to plant a seed and watch it grow,or try and be funny all the time.



you have the people who actually live there and always have something interesting or things trnc related to post about.

cypgab


Joined: 09/01/2010
Posts: 338

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 19:27

Stellee77 - name the names or shut up quoting 'I know several who ....



There are no solicitors in the TRNC - period.



Stop the name calling, it loses you any credibility.

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 19:39

Stelee77



so you invest in property for a living? pity you cannot even spell solicitors correctly. Read the previous thread and inwardly digest. There are no solicitors in the TRNC.

It is very sad when you have to resort to name calling, shows a somewhat limited intellect. You clearly have not got a clue regarding the pitfalls of buying property in the TRNC. You may think you have the theory but you appear to lack the practicality of purchasing in the TRNC. I fear you could be a "Lamb to the slaughter"

I will not lower myself to your gutter personal insults.

cypgab


Joined: 09/01/2010
Posts: 338

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 20:02

If he can't name names (but has no problem calling names) then he is obviously making it up.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 20:09

No your right i dont spell well,what has that got to with anything,do you think you are more more clever than me because of that.



I dont care what you think really,many people over the last few days have said how it is and if you cant except that its your problem,i have been told that i am right but it will fall on a few deaf ears,which it has.



So you sit there with your perfet spelling feeling good about yourself,and of course theres no way im a successful property investor because you have to be a good spelling to achieve that,and no you would not drop to my level and mention that i spelt solicitor.



Why do most people disagree with you quarmby,why do most people say they are happy and they have bought without problems,can you answer that no.



I have already won because im a really happy person who has done well for himself,and i cant wait to be even happier in cyprus,with all these other happy people,what will you be doing grumpy man on c44



truth hurts

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 20:11

Biggest winder up yet.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 20:18

>>Why do most people disagree with you quarmby?<<



How do you qualify that as 'factual' ?



I hardly think some of the people who've had bad experiences are 'sad' .. You've had a TC telling you are mistaken... that's being 'generous'...



Strangely, it is you coming across as 'grumpy' .. you might be right about the truth and 'pain' - I just wonder if you're the type the acknowledge the truth....

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 20:25

Resales were once off plans. Not all go wrong. This particular builder hasn't got his prices wrong, he has used the purchasers money for the life style he thinks he is entitled to. He is a serial offender and I do not know of one site he has been involved in that has not had problems. Little things, like he forgets to get all hs building permits, or walks away without finishing because he has spent all the stage payments on any and everything other than materials and paying his workmen.



steele 77 is a wind up merchant, my advice - ignore him. There are no solicitors in the TRNC - There are Advocates who according to the Bar Assocation here, have 'NO DUTY OF CARE' They do not carry Professional Indemnity Insurance as UK solicitors do. The only way you would, as a foreigner get your PTP within 30 days is if you came here with your Metropolitan Police Character with you, and then you bribed someone in the Ministry of the Interior to get the Army and the Council of Ministers ..

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 20:30

to fast track it because shared the bribe with them.



Erolz is giving sound advice because unlike steel 77, he does know what he is talking about.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 20:31

So there are no law firms in north cyprus which help people avoid the pitalls when buying,you may want to think this but as usual some of you are wrong.



Seriousy i know your bored but get a grip,no wonder people say there piece which proves you wrong but then they leave it,your relentless trying to force something to be something its not.



my cousin used a law firm for his purchase because he was a bit paranoid which is understandable.



I have never said it was straight forward,but i know for a fact buying a property can be as straight forward as a lot of places.



To be honest quarmby your either someone who got stung and ended up back in the uk and your bitter and dont want to except others will not make the same mistakes,or your just a bit sad which is it.



This has gone to far so i will finish on this.



It is very sad some people have lost on property any where in the world.But if your carefull you can buy in trnc at a good price and be very happy,im happy dont care.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 20:46

50,000 victims in the south



At least 3,000 victims in the North accorfing to the Prime Minister of the TRNC



Remember though, we are all bored, stupid and somewhat thick, Suddenty the solicitors become law firms, but don't worry folks, help is at hand, stelee77 is coming here to show all us dummies just where we went wrong. DUH.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 20:51

I agree ignore me,do me a favour.



put your money where your mouth is if your shaw it cant be done.



theres only a few of you anyway and you was well beaten on the positive thread.



just cheer up or think of something new to moan about,i guess i will not meet many of you because your not even there,mmmm now i understand why you have a bad rep,slippery man.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 21:01

Oh diddums - something we said.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 21:07

misunderstood



I understand you are never going to let go of this you guys are going to spend the rest of your lives on 44 moaning,and getting more angry when other people wise up and buy without problems.



It is really sad but it is not a trnc problem its a world problem,but people are now very aware of the pitfalls,and things are improving everywhere.



Its a hard topic for some of you but if you bring it up all the time it will be discussed like this.



Im not a wind up i just dont think some of you are helping yourselves or being fair on others who should be very happy when they move to trnc.



Your be glad to here this is my last post,unless i really need to ask a question not related to this subject



I just hope some of you are not at the bars drowning your sorrows making my life bad because of your own situations.



I really wish i never got so far into this,because i do feel for a lot of you,but im not being told that i will have problems just because you did.

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 21:20

Stelee77

It was the Advocates that got us into the mess we are in - I ultimately blame them. Sener Law Firm lied to us from day one!!!!! I thought we were talking to 'The Advocate' - many months later (when the shit started to hit the fan) I found out that she (Ayhan Sener) was the Advocates wife - not an advocate.

She told us that if the Builder went broke or died - we would own whatever was on the site at that time....lies..... lies..... lies. We did our homework. We got an English speaking 'Advocate' called herself an Essex girl as she was brought up in London.

They are also affiliated with Hugh Jones Solicitors of London - but when I contacted them, they did not want to know anything and referred my back to Sener Law Firm.

We made payments to Sener Law Firm and the builder did not get the full amount we paid. So the Advocate took some of the contracted staged payments.

Listen to what people are saying. You have a lot of right ideas, renting and investigating first.

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 21:29

I also rented a house built by Cafer Yucelgazi in Karsiyaka and it:

Had a mortgage on the land

Had no build permit which meant that it

Had no electric = that came from the Brit down the street.

Had walls covered in cracks which got worse the 6 months we were in the house

Had uneven swimming pool which meant that the skimmer/fliter system did not work

Had uneven steps into the pool which meant that the children fell in as they could not get good footing

Had no roads

Had no pavements

Had no Kocan or parcelisation or finalisation

They had had possession of the house for 5 years.

If you do not know where to get the information which is available then you cannot find it - do not trust an advocate to find it for you.

As stated above, Cafer Yucelgazi played the 'big man' throwing his money around to look rich. buying other properties out of the money paid by otheres as stated payments.

LISTEN AND LEARN - THEN THINK TWICE - AND IF NECESSARY 3 TIMES.

I love TRNC, but I am not

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 21:33

Blind!!!!

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 21:40

Hildy smith



You no what i think you are great,and im sorry if i have offended you,i just got a little angry,yes i will rent first and take a real hard look at it,for you to say yesterday that you lost everything and you can still love north cyprus and still enjoy life there deserves a lot of respect,and makes be believe that it will be great for me to.

I think its fine for you to warn people but maybe if people do what you do and tell your story and what to watch out for it will be so helpfull rather than say dont buy the place is rubbish......ect you dont seem bitter at all even thoe i know you must be very upset,i dont think for a second that you guys are stupid,but soon as people get stung the people after that learn,i totally agree that you need to be very carefull but i think even you would admit you can buy resale low risk,off plan is the big risk,i feel that you could be happy for someone getting it right and being happy,these guys no how to push your buttons for there

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 21:50

entertainment,but i think you would agree that places do improve over time and because of the unlucky ones people become wiser,you also admit there are solicitors,which shows some people are just looking to push peoples anger buttons,i only said i watched homes from hell before and i was jumped on,i have said some stupid things but i never back down when im right.

mmmm i tell you what as girne is such a small place and you are often there ill make sure we meet up so we can discuss this matter face to face,im not your enertainment when your bored.



Hildy smith you seem a great person thats all i can say i hope other people can learn to get on with it over time.



im done

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 21:58

Advocates or solicitors, it makes no difference anymore than doing your homework will. If you refuse to pay any money until your lawyer confirms in writing that clear title has been deduced by appropriate searches then, having paid the money, establish that it was a lie there is nothing you can do as there is no duty of care to a client, no idemnity insurance, no proper client monetary accounts nor a will by governments, bar association, or courts to ensure that purchasers are not rubber dicked. Indeed it seems there is collusion to defraud from top to bottom. Many of those who have experienced the process, with hindsight, repeatedly advise "do not buy any property unless a title deed with the building registered thereon is available in the sellers name." Thereafter the hurdle of permission to buy remains as does the concern that in the fullness of time the title deed may prove to be worthless in the face of claims relying on the events surrounding 1974.

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 22:02

stelee77



stop telling lies, Hildy never mentioned that there were solicitors in the TRNC, get your facts right. So do you live in the TRNC? it appears not, correct if I am wrong, but you have the audacity to come on this forum and tell people who live there how they should conduct themselves in the property market. Your analogy of me confirms you are way off track and have not got a clue.



PS

When you are in a hole, stop digging

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 22:10

Im in no hole,she said she used a law firm,do you live in trnc it appears not,like i said im done ill buy a nice home and ill be very happy.

The info i have recieved is well against you guys,sorry



quarmy just go away now you strange man.



i said im finished here things are looking great.

fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 22:19

Stelee77



I really think that you have misconstrued what people are saying to you. Their intention isn't necessarily to rundown the TRNC, it is to give you fair warning of what you can expect should you decide to invest here. Whilst your self-confidence is admirable, many people are seeing you as themselves a few years ago - looking forward to a new phase of their lives. Now they find themselves homeless or living in crumbling villas with no utilities. Yes, many people have bought here with little or no problems, but if honest, they will admit that they did nothing different to those who find themselves in such dire straits. No amount of homework can prevent some of the practices that go on here and every purchase has a significant degree of risk attached. By the way, I am not a disgruntled owner - I have lived here for 3 years and have rented for the entire period, the best move I ever made.



Regards



Paul

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 22:25

Quote "The info i have received is well against you guys, sorry"



If I had a pint of beer for the no. of times I have heard that from newbies entering the TRNC !!



Stelee77 that's a classic, keep them coming.



Like a lamb to the slaughter.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 22:38

thanks paul



The thing is paul so may people seem so happy with there home and the sale was smooth,i know people who have bought personally who have had no problems.

And from my research it seems like i should be okay,but i will rent for six months and suss it out,but as you can tell im so sure it will be alright,im very street wise if all these other people have done it why cant i?

Do you know what it feels like when people are knocking the whole life you have planed,the truth is when someone like you who is polite says his piece you do make me think but i have experience in buying property and i am very confident.

Im not hell bent on buying and i thought 9% interest was a year not every month,so hildysmith has a point there,if i could rent a property for ten years a time i would take that option but we all know that you can get kicked out at any time,you cant get close to it,i no you dont agree but it does seem most people have bought and are happy,

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 23:24

With the high interest rates here 6% - 10% you are better off renting and putting your capital in the bank. It is the safest way. I could not afford to buy the house I am renting, so as I said, I am happy here and I love where I live. The problems with the Incesu Villa are heartbreaking and soul destroying and have now dragged on for so long that they do sap the energy and strength from you at times.

Especially when you consider that

If I look out of my bedroom window - I see our house

As I walk down the stairs - I see our house

When I sit in the Alsancak Turk Bank - I see our house

I visited Camelot - again I see my house

When I walk on our terrace - I see my house

I went to a cafe - I could see my house

So almost every minute of the day I have a view of what 'might' have been

But I won't give up, I will keep on fighting.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 23:50

I wish i did not get into this debate,it was really insensetive,its does not matter if im right or not i should of just stayed away from it,i guess im rubbing salt in the wounds,but honestly not on purpose,its just im looking forward to things and theres nothing else in my head.

I dont know what to say when you put it like that it sounds real tough,just try and enjoy life dont put yourself in an early grave over it you seem such a nice person,is it wise to live so close to it,that sounds way to hard.

I have got far to much time on my hands right now.

thanks for your advice i will be carefull,ill keep my fingers cross.



But remember your nothing without your health,and you do live in a really nice place so keep your chin up.



take care

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 23:52

Are you confident that the houses if completed will be safe? Some of the footage shows poor foundations and landslides?



So sorry you have experienced such anxiety and I hope you have closure soon.

dalartokat


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 734

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 23:54

Stelee77, I am not in a position to give you advice as I no longer live in TRNC either, but what I can say to you is this. I was exactly like you when I arrived in TRNC and no one was going to tell me what was right and wrong. I ended up with a restaurant, not in my plans, but hey ho, that was needed to make a living. I did manage to do my own thing and went along quite nicely without listening to the usual rumours and stories that had been banded about for years before I went and I still read, sometimes, stories that I know not to be true. That aside, there came a time when, you just could not behave in that manner with the Turkish Cypriot (maybe the expat or 2, but then you made enemies)as I learnt to my cost.

What I did was make a conscious decision everyday to buy my bread in a shop in the high street and not from the shop my landlord owned(because at that time I was not partial to fag ash on my bread!!)......cont...

dalartokat


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 734

Message Posted:
14/07/2011

.....cont...then the day came when the landlord asked my partner why I was not going into the shop to buy things, I have no idea what was said, but later on the rot set in, both sides and basically it was one of the reasons we left the restaurant(many many more but this was one of them). He then started asking for more money in rent and we were coming up to the end of the season where money was tight but he was unable to see that waiting throught the winter and starting again in the summer we would be able to pay more, he couldn't see that so we left. What I am saying is the TRNC is a very small place to make enemies, be it locals or ex pats. I can give you many other reasons for this but it takes too long to type. Please listen to what people are telling you and I know sincerely what you mean when your plans are set in stone and people talk to you and it seems a if they are trying to talk you out of it but I do believe Quarmby and Erol are being sincere to you with their opinions.....

dalartokat


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 734

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 00:03

as is everyone else. Aslo join other boards because there is another board where people are happy, very happy, but one person on there has just suffered severe damage to their property(as well as others probably) due to storm damage and that would not have been predicted, so there can be problems and you have to bear that in mind.

I do hope you get what you want in your own way but take the advice even if deep down your not going to, mull it over and you might think, well yes their right. Regards Sylvie

cypgab


Joined: 09/01/2010
Posts: 338

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 01:09

Steeele - I'm still waiting for the names. You've come on this board, insulted people, called them names and spoken utter gibberish. But for now just prove you are not a liar.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 04:38

Steele do you drink?

so many nice people have offersd advice



but you seem to ignore them



take my advice and buy the Orams villa



just after I win the nigerian lotto

flamefabs


Joined: 09/07/2011
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 06:07

the government aren't interested, thats why the housing market is in the mess its in.





Barry

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 06:57

stelee77 I really do feel you are a person who doesn't know what you think. One minute insulting, the next consoling victims.



When you have bought here, and I really hope if you do, you do not have problems.



However, when you have been to court as many times as some of us, dealt with the system as many times as some of us. been screwed over as many times as some of us, you will speak with the benefit of experience.

The people able to sit in the bars and enjoy their life here are predominately those who have been lucky, followed the system to the letter of the law and came out unscathed and no-one could be more pleased for them than I. Those of us caught up in this legal nightmare, did exactly the same and were unlucky, I cannot speak for all, but I know spending money in the bar (which I would like) is a luxury I cannot afford, need my money to pay the next round of legal fees. Several cases here and one lodged with the ECHR in Strasbourg.

Pauline Read

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 09:06

re 31

Stelee77



>>mmmm now i understand why you have a bad rep,slippery man.<<



I thought you posted the 'truth'.....



The truth is, I have long recommended that the safest bet for buying in 'TRNC' was to stick to pre-74 Turkish / Foreign deeded properties - now even those are hard to sell as foreigners can't get ptp if they buy it...

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 11:37

No i dont drink and post.



Look hildy seems like a lovely person and i genuinley feel sorry for anyone who has had problems,most of the things that that have been said could be said for the south spain or anywhere.

I would really like to build a good home from scratch,and yes it has been done by people on this forum,ill make sure it is built correct,i need to spend six months there first of course.

Some of the things i said where a bit rude but still true.

the opinion of someone who is not living in the trnc and who is just bored does not mean anything to me.

so as a whole the comments from the ex pats living there have been very positive overall.

Im fully aware of poor construction pre 74 land,land grab, mortgaged land, ptp,and any other problems that can go wrong anywhere in the world.

It makes me laugh you all jump on me but in my other threads when people are saying how they did there homework got it right built a high spec home you said nothing to them.

time will tell

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 11:46

re msg 56



>>Some of the things i said where a bit rude but still true. <<



I think Quarmby, myself and a few other posters you've insulted might beg to differ re your 'truth' .. !

tattlad


Joined: 13/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 11:54

I got one built from scratch, and I went through Unwins, and I ended up with a superb villa, OK I paid extra for some stuff that wasn't in the contract, and I even paid a bit more for extra concrete work to make sure I didn't get problems from the heavy rain we sometimes get, but what we have at the end of it all is beyond all my dreams and expectations, now maybe I've been lucky because I've read a lot of people on here haven't been so lucky, but I know a lot of other people here that have had no problems either, but what strikes me is that the ex pat community have not stuck together, surely we could all put our experiences to good use and give new investors a good insight into who to use and who not to.

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 12:00

mmmmmm...Let's hope our youthful friends exuberance ,does not leave him "Hoist by his own Petard"..

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 12:31

tattlad



well said finally some sense on this thread,Now tell him he made mistake and got things wrong.



mmmm,the man who said if i won the lottery i would buy a home in the trnc,then jumps on me.Like i said i promise you we will meet up soon to talk about this.



If you read the positive thread this subject has already had a clear winner,and most people are happy.



use your experiences to help others not make the same mistakes,dont say it can not be done because it simply is not true.



Im sure everyone feels sorry for those who have lost out especially the nice ones.



Your experiences are not everyones remember,and if it seems to risky at the time i will not do it,is it any wonder i get annoyed even when im really nice its not good enough.



That is the third person who has said they have built a good home from scratch,by paying a bit extra and doing there own spec,i have the money why cant i do this to ?

cypgab


Joined: 09/01/2010
Posts: 338

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 14:54

No names yet of the people you personally know?

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 15:29

Why do you want the names of my two cousins and the names of my friend in paphos.



get a grip please,just cheer up

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 15:39

cousins and someone in paphos - yeh we all buy that............................

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 15:42

What, you mean you and your three grumpy friends,i dont care, dont buy it.



good bye

dalartokat


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 734

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 17:48

Message 56, I'm far from bored, but sounds like your on a road to nowhere with your attitude and quite frankly I hope it goes very wrong for you very quickly.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 17:59

Thats nice



but what you want will not happen im afraid.



Ill be very happy with the other happy people



Happy days

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 18:04

Why would any human wish that on anyone,unless they had done something really bad to them.



So excited cant wait to get there,i just love cyprus.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 19:18

Google Walter Mitty.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 19:42

Yeah i did.



great.

ivebinad


Joined: 03/06/2011
Posts: 224

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 19:57

You are all falling for the lies and entrapment that stelee has set, you lot really are quite dumb.



dalartokat if she is genuine then I along with you hope she falls off her perch very quickly, she is an obnoxious arrogant poster.

ivebinad


Joined: 03/06/2011
Posts: 224

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 19:58

Personally I think he/she is AJ lol.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 20:00

because of course ivebinad telling people 'you lot really are quite dumb' is neither arrogant or obnoxious is it ?

ivebinad


Joined: 03/06/2011
Posts: 224

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 20:03

erolz of course it is lol, you just don't get it do you

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 20:46

Paranoid people



I am moving to north cyprus soon and i will be very happy there,i have had so much good advice from this site,well should i say from most people or should i say the ones that live there,as for the ones that are not happy i hope you find your happiness somewhere.

As it is grey and horrible on this summers day again in the uk,i have cheered myself up by looking at pictures of north cyprus on the net,i also look at all tha big plots of land i could build my dream villa on,i would like to thank the people who have been kind enough to give me there e mails and of course all the kind positive comments i have had from this forum about my plans,its always nice to here from people already living there dream.Its a real shame that threre is a doom and gloom brigade,but its only hand full of people so i dont really care i really cant see what there problem is,to say they want someone to fall of there perch is really bad i would only wish that on a really bad person.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 23:20

You should have been North of the Watford Gap 26 degrees today, breakfast, lunch & dinner on the patio for the past week.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 23:25

Hear, their, North Cyprus, I, I'm, you need some lessons in English before you take up the Turkish.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 00:28

yes it is warm,i did not say it was cold i said it was grey,i suffer from dyselxia but im still a succsessful business man,im only 33 and i have set myself up for life already,and i cant wait to get back to cyprus,breakfast on the porch in england lucky you,im glad life is going well for you,and im very impressed with your writing abiliaty,you really seem such a lovely person and so happy to.

Anyway woodspeckie i have seen some lovely villas and plots of land in catalkoy and ozankoy lovely views,i can sit on the balcony with a glass of wine looking at the moutains without a care in the world.

If you want give me your e mail and i can send you some pictures of what im looking to rent or buy,for me i just want to chill out after 15 years hard work,ill play golf most days,i also like to eat out in restaurants often,even thoe i takes a while to adapt to eating later on in the evening,at the end of the day i have worked hard for this life and now i can afford it,so excited and happy. xxxx

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 07:30

Strange - so many young people suffering from dyslexia, especially on this forum.



I think we all know who this really is. Keeps saying goodbye but doesn't go. Has more sense than to buy here really.



Actually he really does sell excellent products.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 09:28

I am confused by that one



if you reply i will answer.

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 12:25

Having taught Adults for 30 years I attended courses on Dyslexia and came across many wiho had dyslexia - including my son and Grand daughter - both very intelligent . Some I taught had degree's and other qualifications. Dyslexia has nothing to do with intelligence or ability it is simply 'word blindness' (messages from the eye to the brain are distored). There are some tools which may help. We found that changing the background of a computer screen helped some, many responded well to a green background. In this day an age of texting, many people use that form of communication. Although as a Tutor I would not accept that in Business English.

Maybe 44 should put a spelling/grammer checker on their system - it would get rid of a lot of other words which are not in the dictionary and keep a lot of people happy as they will not have to complain about other peoples spelling. Of course, there are also bad typists - but who the hell cares so long you can read it!!

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 12:32

Mess 78

Strange - so many young people suffering from dyslexia



It is only in recent history that Dyslexia was identified - previous to that they were thought of as stupid. My son is 46. His school identified his problem when he was 9. He was very bright in all other areas and could talk about and discuss a wide range of topics above his age level. However, when it came to reading he could not read. The school organised Local Authority Remedial Reading Lessons which he attended for over 2 years. At that stage dyslexia was not known about.

I am just thankful that my son went to a great school. They even set up reading classes in the school for any child identified. They said to me if you child was thick and could not read we would know why. But he was very intelligent so they knew there was a problems or as they called it - a learning block.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 12:38

Well said again hildy,its only people who are angry about something who complain,i may spell words wrong but i express myself better than most,i think also its a catch 22 for me because i struggled at school i dropped out at sixteen and have hardly wrote anything since,after working my way up the ranks i now pay others to do my paper work for me.

Before people are mean they should remember some of us have this problem.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 12:38

http://dyslexicadvantage.com/



http://www.happydyslexic.com/node/6



For me personaly I have no doubt that the same thing in my brain that can flip letters and transpose them, allows me to flip 'problems' and 'ideas' and see them in ways non dyslexics can not. I personaly would not 'trade' the benefits I get from dyslexia in order to loose the disdvantages if it was possible to do so.

cypgab


Joined: 09/01/2010
Posts: 338

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 12:46

Nice Erolz - understand your statement completely.

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 13:04

Why worry about dyslexia ? The onset of aging and dementia brings the ability to quickly forget what you have written as well as what you have read. Many other ignomies suffered, for example being the victim of written or verbal abuse, soon become distant memories if remembered at all. There are some things to be grateful for in old age and living for the moment ! (using Zerochlor instead of chlorine of course)

batterboy58



Joined: 20/04/2008
Posts: 442

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 13:23

Dyslexia Rules K.O.

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 13:31

I think this sums it up nicely:

FOR THOSE WHO HAVE TROUBLE SPELLING**



AOCDRNDICG TO RSCHEEARCH AT CMABRIGDE UINERVTISY, IT DSENO'T MTAETR WAHT OERDR THE LTTERES IN A WROD ARE, THE OLNY IPROAMTNT TIHNG IS TAHT THE FRSIT AND LSAT LTEETR BE IN THE RGHIT PCLAE. TIHS IS BCUSEAE THE HUAMN MNID DEOS NOT RAED ERVEY LTETER BY ISTLEF, BUT THE WROD AS A WLOHE. IF YOU CAN RAED TIHS, PSOT IT TO YUOR WLAL. OLNY 55% OF PLEPOE CAN .. ;o)

I have not problem reading this!!!!!

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 13:32

Im sorry i dont understand that one,im not sure if that was directed at me or not,i dont give people verbal abuse i just put people in place who are very negative very mean and feel the need to try and make people who are happy un happy,and i find it very upsetting,im so excited about my move to cyprus and some people seem to want to destroy my happy feelings and my plans.

I have every right to stick up for the life i want and the life i will have,and the only reason for the abuse im getting seems to be from people that cant have what i can.

Now deputydawg dyslexia is a part of life for some of us so please give it break.

The weather is nice today,but nothing like what you lucky people have got.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 13:36

Your right you can read that just as good as if it was done properly.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 13:38

can i ask you a question hildy,was that actually you on homes from hell the other night.

eyebob


Joined: 22/06/2010
Posts: 143

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 19:49

What is it with all this criticism of people who post and do not either spell or articulate themselves very well; two members spring to mind AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!! Why not apply to any of the schools here, who would, no doubt, welcome you with open arms?

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 20:16

Dyslexia - you are in good company



Einstein - Leonardo da Vinci - Picasso - Richard Branson - Winston Churchill - Agathe Christie (must tell pollymarples) and so many more -some consider it a gift.



I am happy to be dyslexic, though sometimes I am in such a hurry it is just typos, sometimes, like now , I try a little harder. Probably still got some of the letters transposed.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 20:21

It's the content that counts, not the spelling or grammar. Give me something interesting with substance and a few spelling mistakes won't matter.

brandysour


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 20:29

My advice would be never by on your own when buying somewhere have a estate agent so payments can be traced when paying installments and have a good solicitor that don,t bullshit you when things go wrong been there come out the other end got the kocan which is very important sold it and never buy in north Cyprus again.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 20:49

The way i see it is it would be nice to write perfect but at the end of the day i would rather be better at most other things,like talking for instance,this site is well out of my comfort zone but theres only a few people who have pointed out my spelling mistakes,so for me this is a right result,i will never fill in important paperwork,all that matters to me is i understand it when i read it.



Another thing looking back at the thread i think some people think im a double id idiot,but seriously im 100% genuine, maybe an idiot to some of you,but at the end of the day as i keep saying no one has the right to tell me i cant be happy and i cant build a home,maybe i should not have been so rude and maybe it was to the wrong people at times,but hildy has proved that you can still be nice and helpfull despite being down on her luck,when i move back to cyprus to be around people like her will be an honour and i hope i can be as helpfull to the ex pat community as most of you lot,cheers

flamefabs


Joined: 09/07/2011
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 20:53

just rent - easy





barry

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 21:14

Brandysour



I would not be making installments,but i would agree on going through an estate agent,why did you buy, then sell so quick,did you have personal problems or was you just really un happy with the build.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
17/07/2011 21:59

Any response from the programme?

brandysour


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
18/07/2011 17:27

We brought our apartment in 2006 paid in installments sent pictures at all stages went out 3 times a year as well got to the stage of picking tiles and units and this point things started to go wrong.

The tiling was not how we wanted it the shower heads where to low spent months telling them to sort it because it looked a mess and no more money will be sent then the final blow was when we found out the builder had ran out of money and the bloke who was on site every time we visited was not the builder but was in charge of the site was a friend of the builder they went college together.

The builder sacked the bloke in charge and accused him of stealing money from us the payers but he did not steal from us because our payment went to our estate agent and all money was accounted for but others paid him direct so i think money went in his pocket not on our apartments only one apartment out of all of us got things done because they where so demanding so we all paid the price.

brandysour


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
18/07/2011 17:43

The pool has not got its own meter the builder refuses to pay for one so the pool will always be connected to someones meter not a good selling point i would say the water tanks on the ground are only the small square one because they had no room for bigger ones so you will always run out of water after all this we manage to sell this year to the Russian's god help them .

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
18/07/2011 17:54

A very familiar story brandysour.



Personally I would not handover money to the Estate Agent. Why the Estate Agent and not the advocate? Pay only with a cheque in sterling from a British Bank so you have a trace of the money sent and get a receipt for all payments. Get the builder to collect all payments from the advocates office so all can be receipted.



Who is it employing and paying the Estate Agent to sell their property? So where will the Estate Agents loyalty lie?



Not sensible to do this.

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
19/07/2011 11:23

In the main I have had very good positive feedback both from TRNC and the UK. Most people thought it was well presented and focused on us and the property and not the politics of the island.

They thought and the villa and the area were beautiful.

- There were a lot of suggestions as to what to do about the builder.

As I comie from a very large family (I am one of 13 and my Dad was 1 of 12, Mam was one of 6) so - some suggested the 'family' deal with thim.

-The military associates/friends felt that a tougher military approach might be better to deal with him.

All 7 buyers are from the UK. 6 have paid all of the staged payments as set out in the contact (we have paid £8k extra). The only payments they have left are the final payment when the house is completed and handed over, then the snagging payment. One buyer had a different load agreement with the builder and was fully paid up until the builder abandonded the site.

The extra's the builder is asking for are:

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
19/07/2011 11:33

He is claiming an extra £44k plus interest at 10% for

- Concrete to do the swimming pool (included in sale and not finished)

- Concrete for doing the retaining wall (not built) and Metal for both

- Tiles on the floors, terraces etc (all included in contracts)

All are covered in the Contract of Sales and Addendum Agrement.

I arranged extra's which were all included in the contract - but Cafer Yucelgazi does not read contracts or plans.

He even forgot the roman end on the pool and had to smash the pool up and put the roman end on afterwards. He put a wall in the wrong place and had to correct that. He installed the cooker requirements in the wrong (dangerous) place and had to correct that. He installed the washing machine the master suite instead of the Kitchen and had to put that right. I presume this is what he claims as extra's I call it incompetence!!!!!!!!!

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
19/07/2011 14:51

Most builders would still be in business if it wasn't for the mistakes they made in the first place, surely most of their money was used rectifying mistakes?

Unfortunately for us our builder had already gone out of business before we realised that the roof tiles were only 'placed' on the roof and not tacked down, when the rain came January before last we may as well have not had a roof at all.......Everything was ruined!

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
19/07/2011 16:17

Now britvic don't moan at least you have a roof



Next episode of "Homes from Hell" tonight at 9.00pm once again on "Cyprus" (a former soldier fighting a war with his builder) presumably this time in the ROC ? makes no difference either side are as bad as each other

and it keeps warning future victims of the pitfalls the Island as a whole is laden down with!

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
19/07/2011 18:51

Msg 105 , maybe not on



http://paphospeople.com/ppforum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17664&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
19/07/2011 20:04

Message 06 - you could be right. Just checked the TV guide for tonight, it doesn't mention anything on Cyprus...

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
19/07/2011 20:08

....really sorry....typing fingers not working correctly....

I meant to say....

Message 106

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
19/07/2011 22:08

philbaiiley (mess 106) just watched the Murdoch's and Ms Brooks in front of the commons committee! very interesting, and I'm sure they will be Tried in front of a judge accordingly, (without shaving foam pies) unlike the TRNC who can't seem to get a grip of right from wrong with or without pies?



Blackbird (mess 107) my TV guide says it is on Cyprus! we will see!

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
19/07/2011 23:55

Just watched the programme

but he was offered his money back TWICE

the second time with interest



why oh why did he refuse

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 00:02

Have just watched the programme and thought the British guy was a total unreasonable plonker.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 00:03

Do you mean Connor O'Dwyer? philbailey



Perhaps he want's justice?



Just a thought! after all he's been through

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 00:06

tonyhickey (mess 111)



Unreasonably plonkers are numerous in Cyprus

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 00:07

Not just one but two victims of the "Cyprus" Hell!!!!

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 00:09

He was offered justice

straight away he was offered a FULL refund

but he refused

he went through the rest after he refused

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 00:13

Perhaps he wanted what was in his contract! which was signed by both parties? and would not submit to blackmail!

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 00:16

Tonyhickey unreasonable plonker or not, he was phyicaly assulted twice by the builders. Not seen the program yet, so not sure if that was covered or not, but have been following his story for a long time now. His side is laid out here btw.



http://www.lyingbuilder.com/

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 00:19

Good luck to the man

personally I would have walked away with my money back



Life is too short

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 00:24

Without doubt he should have accepted the refund of his deposit. He clearly stated that it was no longer the home of his dreams and that he would sell on when completed. However it was his choice to continue with the sale. He had a legally binding contract and was up-to-date with his payments. When he "bad mouthed" the builder on the internet then the builder should have pursued his complaint for slander through the courts........ but continued to adhere to the sale contract so that he stuck to the laws of the land.



One has to ask how the developer could then sell the property on, as it had been registered with the land registry and according to the law this should have been prohibited.However this is Cyprus and we all know that adhering to the law for many is not always necessary or popular.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 00:27

philbailey (mess 118)



Sometimes principles and honesty are worth fighting for? don't you think? Blackmail either side of the Green Line should not be allowed to win!



I felt so sorry for the 3 victims living in the large apartment block with the old generator!



DO NOT BUY IN CYPRUS FULL STOP!!!!!!

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 00:37

The 3 victims now have electricity supply. Little compensation for living in a derelict ghost town and the threat of demolition of a property you have fully paid for, hanging over you.

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 01:55

Message 116

The view from the villa was not in the contract as was said by Mr O Dwyer, it seems quite common in England to alter surrounding building plots after building has begun for various reasons

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 03:00

Have to agree with Msg 122.



All this is self-inflicted.

Yes, he has been offered full refund ( was mentioned 3 times during the programme alone). And it was a good will gesture from the developer to offer the refund.

In the UK he wouldn't have a hope for the refund: there was no breach of the contract and there is no such thing as 'the right not to be overlooked'.

Any solicitor in the UK would have told him that the only way to guarantee a total privacy is to buy a huge plot of land and plant some trees on it. Otherwise one can only hope for it.

Looks like a total waste of money and, what is more important, 5 years of life!

He could have taken money and could have bought a completed property with a secluded garden.

HildySmith


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Message Posted:
20/07/2011 16:48

Had I been offered compensation - I would have took it.