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dizzycows
Joined: 12/05/2009 Posts: 2736
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 16:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 36 in Discussion |
| What is the normal speed of an internet connection? |
0maintenance
Joined: 22/09/2010 Posts: 2179
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 16:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 36 in Discussion |
| depends what you buy i suppose! |
Groucho
Joined: 26/04/2008 Posts: 7993
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 16:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 36 in Discussion |
| It tells you 56% but still good. What connection are you paying for? Is it wireless? How much does it cost? |
0maintenance
Joined: 22/09/2010 Posts: 2179
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 16:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 36 in Discussion |
| It tells me 67% better than most of CY actually,not 65% as i said above. it is wireless. |
RoxyBob
Joined: 13/07/2009 Posts: 205
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 16:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 36 in Discussion |
| omaintenance The results mean nothing. Do you monitor it while the speed test is running. I do and notice it takes several seconds to get to a reasonable download speed. It then jumps up to some speed far and above what I am paying for and then stops. i.e. I pay for 2mbytes and the speed test gave me 3035kbytes 3.035mbytes. I know from my internet connection I am not getting anywhere near 2mbyte download speed. This seems to have happened since their advertisement a few weeks ago reference a new Motorola system with new bandwidth prices. I will reasses the situation in late august when my renewal is due. Bob |
Washerman
Joined: 19/09/2008 Posts: 2301
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 16:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 36 in Discussion |
| Amanda..............have you noticed that yours says "faster than 67% of CY" and mine says "slower than 63% of TR" Why's that I wonder ? |
0maintenance
Joined: 22/09/2010 Posts: 2179
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 16:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 36 in Discussion |
| I do not use the new motorola head unit,ive stuck with the old unit. Ive had 2MB from when i first went with them,its nearly always been 2MB. Today we switched to 4MB,and we are getting 4MB some times 3.5 or 3.8 some more often than not,4.5 to 5.5. It does not jump at the end and show a higher reading although the upload test jumps up to 1.4 then all of a sudden drops to 0.50. :( |
0maintenance
Joined: 22/09/2010 Posts: 2179
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 16:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 36 in Discussion |
| Is it possible that i do my Test to london,maybe your doing your test to ankara? |
RoxyBob
Joined: 13/07/2009 Posts: 205
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 16:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 36 in Discussion |
| omaintenance What bandwidth are you paying for? If it is 2mbytes or more you should be able to watch tv from your pc. I Can't. Bob |
Washerman
Joined: 19/09/2008 Posts: 2301
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 16:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 36 in Discussion |
| No, I did the test to London - it shows the destination on the result |
RoxyBob
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Message Posted: 13/07/2011 16:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 36 in Discussion |
| omaintenance Ok thanks for the info Bob |
Washerman
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Message Posted: 13/07/2011 16:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 36 in Discussion |
| RoxyRob.....there could be any number of reasons, but I can confirm that I watch BBC and ITV live every day with a PC connected to my TV on a 1 Mb connection. For more info: http://www.ticproblemsolver.com/free_uk_vpn/ |
RoxyBob
Joined: 13/07/2009 Posts: 205
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 16:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 36 in Discussion |
| Washerman, Do you provide this service? If so I would be very interested. Bob |
Washerman
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Message Posted: 13/07/2011 16:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 36 in Discussion |
| Yes, ticproblemsolver is ours. Who is your ISP and what area do you live ? You can answer here, email paul(at)northcypruz.com or, telephone 0533 869 4371 |
Groucho
Joined: 26/04/2008 Posts: 7993
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 17:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 36 in Discussion |
| Zero, I'm only quoting the ping/speed test you posted at msg1 it says 56%.. so if you now get better than 67% that means 11% just got slower than you! You haven't answered my questions:- Is it wireless? How much does it cost? These are not commercial in confidence are they? |
Washerman
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Message Posted: 13/07/2011 17:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 36 in Discussion |
| Groucho.................the difference in the results in percentage terms is because when Amanda tested her connection the second time, it performed better and therefore, when measured against the other results, scores higher. |
erolz
Joined: 17/11/2008 Posts: 3456
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 17:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 36 in Discussion |
| Roxybob msg9, there is a difference between 'burst' speed on a speed test that downloads for less than a minute and consistent download speed over time. These kinds of speedtests are very limited in many ways , the main one being they do not download for long enough to give any indication of how consistent your download speed is over time. For streaming video , or for downloading large files as quickly as possible, what matters is not how fast your connection is in a brief 30 seconds test, but how consistently it performs over the length of the streaming program, or the hours needed for a large download. If you get super fast speeds for a minute or two, but the connection degrades after serveral minutes of sustained downloading, then that will be an issue and it will not generally show up on a speed test like these. |
Washerman
Joined: 19/09/2008 Posts: 2301
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 17:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 36 in Discussion |
| Don't forget, these are shared internet connections so, at times when the internet is busy with 'many' users, connections are slower. This is the same the world over. Guaranteed (uncontended) bandwidth - just for your own use, costs a great deal more than shared bandwidth. |
RoxyBob
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Message Posted: 13/07/2011 17:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 36 in Discussion |
| erolz, washerman I understand all these things, however I cannot watch tv over the internet at anytime. It freezes every few seconds. This shouldn't happen with a 2mbyte connection. bob |
Washerman
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Message Posted: 13/07/2011 17:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 36 in Discussion |
| North Cyprus internet - burst speed Your internet service provider may configure your internet connection with a burst speed and a time limit (usually, just a few seconds) which is allocated at the beginning of each request. This enables web pages to load quickly, but as soon as a constant stream of bandwidth is required beyond the time limit, the bandwidth allocation automatically reduces. The burst speed setting allows internet service providers to quote higher speeds for their connections. It's all here: http://www.northcyprusinfo.net/north_cyprus_internet/ along with many other types of bandwidth control mechanisms |
Washerman
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Message Posted: 13/07/2011 17:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 36 in Discussion |
| Internet speed in Northern Cyprus has more to do with where you are living in relation to the base station and the quality and strength of the wireless signal between your house and the antenna. There are other factors, but in my experience, this is the most important. RoxyBob, I have received your email and I will respond shortly |
Groucho
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Message Posted: 13/07/2011 17:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 36 in Discussion |
| Paul, I knew that of course... but Zero's msg1 seemed a simple transposition of the numbers. I'd still be interested to know how much a 4mb connection costs |
erolz
Joined: 17/11/2008 Posts: 3456
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 17:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 36 in Discussion |
| RoxyRob if you are paying for a 2meg conection and it consistently fails to allow you to watch say a BBC iplayer 'low bandwidth' stream, then I would talk to your ISP about it if I were you. Whilst it is not reasonable to expect to be able to download 24/7 at your max speed, you should be able to download at 50% of it (bbc iplayer on 'low bandwith' setting requires a steady 0.8mbs) more often than not I would say. A better way to monitor and test your connection speed than these speedtest quoted above would be to use a program that shows you your speed over time. Something like DU Meter (which is a pay for programm but you can trial it for 30 days for free). |
Washerman
Joined: 19/09/2008 Posts: 2301
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 17:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 36 in Discussion |
| If you want to do a sustained test, download the 10MB_zero.bin file from here http://fuller.zen.co.uk/test - look at the transfer rate as it comes in (total transfer time) If you want to 'properly test your internet connection - http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/ (you need java installed) it will tell you everything, including your shoe size |
erolz
Joined: 17/11/2008 Posts: 3456
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 18:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 36 in Discussion |
| A 10MB file is not really what I would call a 'sustained' test personaly. It would take about 1.5mins on a 1meg connection working near max and half that on a 2 meg working near max potential. What matters for streaming content from say bbc iplayer service is how the connection performs over the entire length of the video stream and not just ofr a minute or two. The 100meg tests would be better but really best thing is monitoring the connection over time, whilst actualy watching a bbc iplayer video stream, which is what something like DU meter allows you to do. With any such test you must also be aware that the 'sending' site, be it zen internet in the UK or the BBC may itself be having problems. It's about behaviour over time that matters I think, not just indivdual spot tests. |
erolz
Joined: 17/11/2008 Posts: 3456
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 18:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 36 in Discussion |
| Another piece of software I use is a download manager, I use one called 'getright' which has an indefinate free trial period (you get occasional reminders that you are on trial, but it keeps working, or you can pay for it). These have many advatages if you download large files, which I tend to do, but one of the things it does is keep a history of all my downloads and the average rate of download, which gives a good record of my connections performace over time. From that history I can see I downloaded recently a 5.5GB file (yes GB not MB, so 5500MB approx) and the average download rate for this file was 117.6 K BYTES / second. Which is 940.8 kb/s vs the 1024 kb/s max potential on the 1Mb/s service I pay for. THis file took 13 hours to download , and I would have done this over serveral days, but the AVERAGE speed over the entire 13 hours is dam close to the max I could get, so over all on this example my connection is working very well indeed. |
0maintenance
Joined: 22/09/2010 Posts: 2179
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 19:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 36 in Discussion |
| just done a test now http://www.speedtest.net/result/1384028709.png not quite as good as this afternoon, but im still very happy. i did say its wireless groucho,its not zerochlor by the way. Yes its 4MB connextion |
Washerman
Joined: 19/09/2008 Posts: 2301
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 19:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 36 in Discussion |
| There are better download managers than getright IMHO. If this is a competition on stating the obvious, I am going to bow out. 5.5GB file - what the heck type of file was that ? |
0maintenance
Joined: 22/09/2010 Posts: 2179
Message Posted: 13/07/2011 19:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 36 in Discussion |
| Message 22. Thanks but you had lost me by message 28 I only posted to see what speeds other folk here may be showing on the same test. My connextion is and feels a hell of alot quicker than yesterday. Thanks nethouse. Although ive always had a great service from nethouse, maybe im lucky with the position im in with relation to the mast i get my wireless connextion from. Anyway. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBzJGckMYO4 |
erolz
Joined: 17/11/2008 Posts: 3456
Message Posted: 14/07/2011 03:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 36 in Discussion |
| Washerman 5.5GB file is not that large by todays standards. Before that file I downloaded an 18.2GB file - it was a game called shogun total war 2 and I purchased it from steam as its not easy to buy such things legaly here other than online. Most PC games these days are 8GB and upwards. Download HD content from BBC iplayer and it will be in the GB. Nothing unsual with a 5.5GB file for me. 0mainteance consistency of your connection, tested for 30 seconds, at a couple of points over time is not the same as testing it over 13 hours or more of constant downloading. I made this point in relation to RoxyBob who was pointing out he gets good results using speed test but not good results if he tries to stream video. One possible reasons for this is the difference between a 'spot check' like speed test does and how their connection performs over time, though this is not the only possible cause of course, the source may not be pushing out the stream in a consistent manner for example. |
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