Anybody know a good TV system to install

honeybun


Joined: 13/07/2011
Posts: 47

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 18:45

I am looking to install a GOOD Sat TV system and need a little help. I have heard horror stories where once fitted they stop working, or are so off and on that it is not worth watching. A friend had DOPI fitted and after just one day it stopped working, they asked for the money back but was told it was not possible. I don't want to go down that road. Can anyone point me in the right direction. Many thanks

andrew4232



Joined: 04/07/2009
Posts: 1543

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 18:53

here we go again !

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 19:47

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/59203.asp



http://www.satellitecyprus.com



0533 869 4372

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 19:54

Honeybun



i can recomend this company and system they sell. http://www.satellitecyprus.com





I think it is the best bit of money i have spent in cyprus in the time i have been here.



value for money and entertainment for your money is great and picture quality is perfect,no freezing,no stopping.

BoBoBear


Joined: 02/06/2010
Posts: 121

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 19:56

Go and see Clive Burroughs at the Property Centre he is an authorised distributor for OSN TV. Good package.

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 19:58

BoBoBear........"authorised distributor" - Someone call the paramedics

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 20:00

Honeybun. What system are you using at the moment?

Rogerdoger


Joined: 04/09/2008
Posts: 102

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 20:04

Honeybun, I used to have Sky, but changed to OSN with Saterlite Cyprus, best thing I did, top company to deal with, allways ready to help or allways on the end of a phone if needed, would recomend them to anybody and I don't often say that!

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 20:05

re msg 1



Depends what you mean by 'good' !!..



If you mean UK TV then your choice is a 1.8m ( You'll get SKY stuff - esp in HD and ITV1 and BBC news 24 - using THAT you can get the red button access to F1 GPs, concerts, Wimbledon, Rugby, sports Results on a Sat pm in the footie season Glastonbury, etc) )



or a 4.2m ( to get BBC1,2,3,4 and ITV2-4)



The person in msg 3 is pushing an Arabic system that he has no rights to sell and he can't guarantee continued reception of pay TV packages - at least with SKY you control your destiny - and you aren't relying on the whim of an Arab you'll never meet ;) Beware of 'recommendations' in the the thread mentioned in msg 3 - note the numbers of 'members' who never posted again / have a ultra low post count...



You can have a 1m dish fitted and receive free Arab TV - some decent progs in English from MBC for free.



OR you can subscribe to DigiTurk - or Nova Cyprus.. the only two pay packages licensed for your part of the world.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 20:09

You can also watch UK TV without a dish using various internet options - if you have a good internet connection..





Talk to loads of folk first and be aware that Dopi aren't the only company making boasts they won't be able to maintain....



Do NOT pay up front for a year - unless you REALLY know the person and they take credit card.



re msg 5 BoBobear



NO-one on this island is an 'authorised reseller of OSN or Abu Dhabi TV or SKY......

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 20:23

honeybun...............read this thread http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/59203.asp and then, trust your own instincts.

The messages at 9 and 10 come from a person with an axe to grind who has a looooooong track record of abuse of forum rules and receiving bans for his attacks on TRNC businesses.

If you want to speak to our customers, telephone me 0533 869 4372 and I'll put you in touch with a few.

In any event, some will be along shortly to tell you about our product and customer service

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
13/07/2011 20:25

Oh my god.



Here we go again.



One of your oppos in cyprus have sent you a txt message to come online and start spewing your crap again 6ms,



6Ms.



can you give the customer here who is looking for information the total set up cost of installing sky here in TRNC,from installing the huge ugly dish to buying a HD box if they do not already have one, then then the monthly fees for a good package ?



Can you please tell the person who asked the question the yearly cost.



Never mind no one is authorised to sell this or that, you was spouting your rubbish last year and telling folk they wont be able to renew the subscription and youll be still spouting your crap next year,thats if you make it to next year with that blood pressure.



Why dont you just mind your own business.



You tried the same rubbish 10 days ago with zerochlor when you and your greek pal made up 2 names,pool expert and HCLOman, you really are scraping the barrel.

HONEYBUN, there is 100s of satisfied customers

fatelady


Joined: 31/01/2009
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 03:49

Honeybun we used the company recomended by washerman , his service was fantastic , lots of film channels etc , it saved my husbands sanity, really it did , paul and dan are very professional and know what they are talking about , when i get back to cyprus in 3 weeks i am going to have them hook up some internet for me at our villa , i am sure you will not be dissapointed .

flamefabs


Joined: 09/07/2011
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 06:11

unfortunately we only rent when we come over and i have to say that the local didgi turk channels aren't much cop.



i think if i were living hr all the time, i'd look for something better.







Barry

crofter


Joined: 16/12/2008
Posts: 1035

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 07:15

mmmmmm........we agree with Omaintenance 100%......give it a rest and be positive instead or posting negative comments.

islandgirl


Joined: 12/09/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 07:38

Sound reasoned advice, diatribe free from Mr Ms though I think the thread is a set up.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 08:51

re 16 Islandgirl



whether the thread is a setup or not, isn't it 'interesting' that 'washerman' keeps pushing a thread where he is 'recommended' by many one post wonder fictional supporters..



re 11 - Washerman



As ever, you won't DEAL with the FACT that the services you 'push' have clearly warned that your service is not supported and liable to be turned off any any time..



Your *service* won't count for anything if OSN/ AD TV pull the plug on you, because a licensed TV broadcaster is 'fed up' with 'naughty claims'...



WHERE will your service be, then ?



IF I have an "axe to grind" [ ROFL] WHY am *I* not posting links to a service that would line my pocket... ?

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 09:04

You still have not told honeybun if she will need a mortgage to set up a huge ugly dish to recieve SKY and how much a HD sky box will cost her if she does not have one,also whats the cost per year of a good package.



Total cost please for big ugly dish,fitted,HD box and monthly subs.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/07/2011 12:21

Dear Zero



Thanks for pointing out that I might have 'missed' something.. happy to advise re pricing ..



1/ If you want 120+ free UK channels you can buy a freesat receiver - or an old SKY box for under 60 GBP - or you can buy a PVR ( records) for 85 GBP - no subscriptions - Many supermarkets and places like Richer Sounds are doing good deals and there's the internet, of course.



2/ If you want SKY HD and subscribe to an HD package the receiver is currently FREE in the UK... cost c. 30GBP / monthly for a package.. IF you want everything the cost is 62.50 monthly... that's a LOT of channels..



3/ the 4.2m one needs to get EVERYTHING cost c.2500 GBP... and will allow reception of the 120+ FREE UK TV / Radio channels - NO Subs.... They can be shared - so the costs tumble.



Any more questions ?

honeybun


Joined: 13/07/2011
Posts: 47

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 18:57

I would like to thank you all so much for your input, we are with Digiturk at present but we are fed up with all the repeats. I will let you know on our decision once we have checked it all out. But certainly won't be installing DOPI.

Stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 19:19

Zero re msg 18



Would the mortgage needed to pay for the dish have to be registered with the land registry in the TRNC ;-)

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
15/07/2011 22:14

Message 19



what can be shared?



message 18. Now thats a tricky one . And im not zero,im 0m



i will have to get back to you on that one.

benoppy


Joined: 17/10/2008
Posts: 176

Message Posted:
16/07/2011 10:42

Post deleted , as per rule 3........ Simbas

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
16/07/2011 11:27

re 22 Zero



The dish can be shared.. and as to whom I'm addressing - one never can tell..

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
16/07/2011 11:40

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/68600.asp



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/59203.asp

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
16/07/2011 11:47

And how will they be "singing your praises" when 'your' service can't give them the pay tv you 'guaranteed'... :(



tick, tock...

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
16/07/2011 11:55

message 24



it can be shared?



What if ive got no Neaibours?



What if you was my Neaibour!



Do you need to make a big concrete slab to sit one of those monstrosities on or will it just sit there on its own?



Is c £2500 including the concrete base or the base extra and does that include KDV or is the prices you quote PLUS KDV for a jordrell bank lookalike me house looks so very important now dish?

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
16/07/2011 11:58

oppps Neighbours i meant

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
16/07/2011 12:02

Mods.



can you please make a decision on zerochlors posting rights as its getting very hard quadruple tasking and answering posts for him.

Im on the phone,im txting some one from my mobile,im typing an email,and answering threads for David,theres only so much a lady can do,and ive got to put my lipstick on yet

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
16/07/2011 12:15

Dear Zero



If you have no neighbours then the question re sharing is obviously rhetorical..!



As for bases / prices.. you'd obviously have a no obligation quote from a TC supplier who's had the same phone number for 30+ years ;)

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
16/07/2011 12:42

6ms,



Still waiting for you to confirm what contribution you make to this country.?



Your comments concerning Pauls "fictional supporters" is just a blatent lie and reflects what you are.



Art.

hwilde


Joined: 16/09/2010
Posts: 230

Message Posted:
17/07/2011 18:03

I did a google search for "Satellite TV services in Northern Cyprus" and got this:



http://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=921&noj=1&source=hp&q=Satellite+TV+services+in+Northern+Cyprus&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=



Is this significant?

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
17/07/2011 18:08

Msg 23 , deleted for reason given

Simbas

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
17/07/2011 22:09

re 31 Magicart



>>Still waiting for you to confirm what contribution you make to this country.? <<



I answered the same question on another thread... suggest you check it out ..



>>Your comments concerning Pauls "fictional supporters" is just a blatent lie and reflects what you are.



Tut, tut, Art... I'm not the only member to comment on "one post wonders" and wonder how vocal you're going to be in the future - when I'm proved correct - AGAIN... tick, tock...

coffeeman


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 242

Message Posted:
18/07/2011 00:40

Honey bun i would listen to washerman i get my systems from him and have been more than satisfied. i have two card system and my tv never freezes is always on and great hd channels mainly in english. leave the pirates to the sea.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
18/07/2011 00:41

The original poster

I believe was on a wind up





but hey ho

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
18/07/2011 08:51

6ms,



I see you have just fielded my 2 questions and have decided to hide behind other members.



These one post wonders are genuine satisfied Arriva customers.



Are you doubting their credability and integrity?



As for your last sentence-you keep trotting out the same line -its getting tedious.



Art

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
18/07/2011 09:28

re msg 37

MagicArt



>>I see you have just fielded my 2 questions and have decided to hide behind other members. <<



1/ Question 1 - was already answered..



2/ Question 2 - was addressed and it was pointed out that I wasn't alone..



>>These one post wonders are genuine satisfied Arriva customers. Are you doubting their credability and integrity? <<



Let's be clear here... I doubt:

a) the existence of some of the posters

b) the one's that have posted will be so 'happy' with a service they can't get..



>>As for your last sentence-you keep trotting out the same line -its getting tedious. <<



Time will demonstrate who was right, eh....Have I *ever* been wrong ? .....

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
18/07/2011 11:07

6ms,



Lets examine your predictions in a little more detail.



1-Dopi -dispite its difficulites are still trading in the TRNC



2-Yes they have lost some customers but gained others(AND ARE STILL GAINING)



3-Many of their existing customers are happy to renew their contracts because they see Dopi offering value for money.



4-Many of Arriva's customers are on their 2nd and 3rd year subsciptions and are delighted with the current high level of service.



5-The Sky package is legally no different from what Arriva are offering .



Now then -and here lies the crooks of the matter.



All this dispite your constant attempts to disrupt the market and your personal attacks on Dopi and Arriva.



Finally you have not addressed question one- so here we go again.



What contribution have you made to the TRNC?



Thanks



Art

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
18/07/2011 12:28

MagicArt



re 39



re Dopi: unless you work for them - how do you KNOW some of the things you've posted.? !



Let's be HONEST here.. they made claims they KNEW they could never deliver on - Dopi simply pirate legit pay tv companies products.. you seem to wish to be portrayed as honest, yet want to support someone who steals content and sells it at a profit ?....



Washerman is a grey market pirate - folks taking their own SKY box out to Cyprus AREN'T ... The Advocat General of the European Court of Justice has told us that it is OK for EU citizens to take EU sat tv in any EU state.. does that apply to Arab TV ?



Your question re my 'contribution' to 'TRNC' has undergone another 'twist'.. it started off as relating to charity.... but I always try to answer - even if the question is obtuse..



1/ There's plenty of members who've saved a BOMB by not investing in systems that won't last

2/ Plenty of members who enjoy my UK VPN..

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
18/07/2011 14:13

6ms.



You have side stepped the real point of the posting.



Your predictions have not materilised and never will.



You are just scaremongering and deliberatley targetting TRNC business's for your own personal benefit-knowing you can get away with it .Times are changing---tick tock!!!



As for your allegation that I could be working for Dopi-its just ludicrous.



Think you've lost the plot....end of!!



Bye for now.!!



Art.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
19/07/2011 23:20

MagicArt



re msg 41



>>You have side stepped the real point of the posting. << Really? ah well, let's see who posts ACCURATE facts..

>>Your predictions have not materilised and never will. <<



1/ I told readers that Dopi's method of decoding pirated channels and why it would start to be intermittent - driving folks to distraction - weren't YOU one of them ?

2/ I predicted probs during the world cup

3/ I predicted the channels that would 'disappear' ( OSN?) and when ... funnily enough Washerman even posted this info AFTER me and told readers of his alternative... which you have slavishly adopted..



How's THAT, so Far



I could mention that I warned folks that Dopi wouldn't be able to decrypt BBC via BFBS...but then Rowlo will be more convinced that this was my deed... ;)



You are being REALLY silly suggesting I don't know what is going to happen..

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 08:12

Still trotting out the same old lines.



My challenge to you.



Make a point of visiting the TRNC and arrange to meet Paul and Namik.



This will acheive two things.



1, It would demonstrate that you are not afraid to have a face to face debate.(instead of hiding behind your desk)



2, You can also clear up some of the accusations levelled at you -especially the ones concerning your deliberate attempt to sabotage these two companies.



Looking forward to hearing from you.



Art

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 09:46

MagicArt



re 43



You have tried ( unsuccessfully) to suggest I've fibbed and should be banned - yet it is clear when presented with facts and proof I was right - you had a 'busted flush'..



You get your questions answered but 'conveniently' forget to address mine..



Let's be clear.. when I come to Cyprus I'll visit friends and do some biz... ErolZ tried to have a reasoned discourse with Washerman and found it useless. I have no need to meet a guy who tells fibs to get biz.. He took advantage of the Dopi farce and also refers to them as pirates, btw ! ;)



I have absolutely NO intention of meeting anyone from Dopi / Uran - the fact that you might try to 'defend' cos. that took money from expats KNOWING they steal the content from legit sat pay tv cos. says to me that you are either blissfully ignorant and or wilfully 'silly'....



I'm not 'frightened' to have a face to face debate .... Those that *really* know me, know I have visited the 'TRNC' to visit many 'adversaries' !

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 09:59

cont



>>You can also clear up some of the accusations levelled at you -especially the ones concerning your deliberate attempt to sabotage these two companies. <<





I make no secret of the FACT that I ( ultimately) helped fellow sat tv cos - by supplying Uran / Dopi kit .. You have a VERY( convenient [?]) short memory re the promises made by Dopi and the suggests that I was 'lying' ...



Ironically is it Uran / Dopi that 'sabotaged' themselves - due to their strategy used to deliver the encryption medium - you 'conveniently' forgot that I prophesied that they'd have to KEEP changing suppliers and moving client dishes to maintain some sort of platform .. and that this would mean freezing..



It is interesting that Washerman is conspicuously silent - re Uran / Dopi.. that hasn't been the case before.. Before posting any more nonsense you should check with him... !!

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 10:00

Not many know you face to face,only as the voice behind the keyboard.



The other night i was asked to describe some one who i had never met and what picture i had in my mind.



child like.whimpish.selfish.coward.in fact the list was endless,sometimes perceptions change when you meet a person!



PS

hows Mr Murdock or is it Mr murdoch

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 10:05

Magicart.................thanks for offering to give me a few days off from playing with mmmmmm.

Don't listen to him, you are doing fine and anyway you know his MO.

Have a look at this thread..........recognise anyone ?

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/69057.asp

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 10:16

Dear Zero



>>Not many know you face to face,only as the voice behind the keyboard. <<







I can think of 100+ members that have met me face to face or seen my ugly mug on SKYPE ;) .. I wonder WHY you get involved ...when you keep demonstrating you are zero clued up on FACT...!!



re msg 47



Washerman - I see you've had to give a 'clue' to your latest 'personal attack' thread ..... perhaps you NEED to do that as everyone is confused as to who you mean ...:D



Perhaps you can quietly help poor 'ol MagicArt by dealing in specifics .. when I have time I might have to post your comments re Dopi as it will back up the 'dastardly' attacks I've made on a 'TRNC' biz... ;)

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 10:26

Magicart.....don't forget the bet ! 1:10 word ratio - if you beat it the drinks are on me

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 10:31

Wrong again 6ms



I am Amanda



zero/David is online and can post himself



I do not need to hold the fort for him any more



Did you look up how murdock or murdoch was spelt?



But i do know david would love to meet you,your his hero!

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 10:33

Good morning honeybun.



Almost 7 months ago i was also at the same stage as yourself and wondering about some entertainment for my TV.

I looked at all SAT TV possibilities from the most expensive huge 4.2 meter dish/antenna with a dreambox attached and a computer to unscramble SKY so i did not have to pay,but the set up cost was horrendous,including a base to sit the 4.2m dish on it was going to cost me the best part of £3000.Plus £60 odd pounds per month subscription.

So then i looked at Dopi,but reading all of the sad stories on cyp44 and hearing what folk had to say,i shyed away from Dopi,i had already tried digiturk,it was not for me.

So i started to take notice of the washerman and 6ms threads and the arguments and outbursts and came to the conclusion washerman must be selling a very good product for it to keep attracting the attention of 6ms and after reading all of the great reports regarding OSN and washermans company i had the system fitted,what a great choice i made.

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 10:36

Speak of the Devil

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 10:46

re msg 50 Dear Zero - Amanda...



and what IS the first character of your handle ? ...



Now you suggest I meet David... can't he speak for himself... ? *I* don't have a swimming pool..



re msg 52



>>conclusion washerman must be selling a very good product for it to keep attracting the attention of 6ms<<



and now for the FACTs....



1/ It isn't 'Washerman's' product



2/ He isn't an official dealer - as he has no right to sell it..



3/ The TV companies behind it have clearly stated that they may turn off units they find being used outside their designated rights area..



Caveat emptor

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 11:02

message 53



I am Amanda



Message 51 is your friend David



Message 50 is me

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 11:04

(cont)



Now if folks with SKY accounts bring their kit out to CY - they are also breaking SKY's Ts and Cs but there has been a legal case which has gone to Europe and the Advocate General of the European Court of Justice has given a legal ruling - the same body that ruled that the Orams case could have RoC Judgements enforced in the Courts of England and Wales..



The ruling is that an EU citizen can use an EU based sat tv system - the tst case is a Greek system being used in the UK



This does NOT cover Arab TV companies..

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 11:08

re msg 55 - sorry it is NOT a 'ruling' - it is her legal opinion - and rulings rarely vary from same..

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 11:16

your so repetitive.



You have spouted that 50 times.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dETlL88JIu8

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 11:21

As you rightly corrected yourself.



It is not a Ruling.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPWkstYYcLU

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 11:22

I am posting this for zerochlor 6ms,as he is being unfairly moderated.IMHO



Message 53



But does the same rule not apply to sky tv with regards to bringing the box to cyprus and watching sky tv here,but of course sky tv are getting the subs just the same as OSN are getting the subs,No one is ripping off the original supplier or card sharing,im sure sky tv is aware many in cyprus and other countries are watching there Sky tv outside where it was originally meant to be,just the same as OSN must be aware.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 11:29

OSN are getting the subs from grey systems used in the TRNC, but they do not have the rights to get those subs. Certainly they may not care much about such use, as long as they can claim ignorance of it. However if they are made aware of someone using the system in an area outside those they have rights to they HAVE to take action, for to not do so would risk their agreements with the content providers. With grey market system like OSN its not OSN that is being 'ripped off' but there is a strong and logical argument that companies like Digiturk are being ripped off by such systems. They have PAID for rights to offer services in the TRNC and OSN have NOT paid for such rights.

Of course grey market services are material different from card sharing ones. However they are ALSO materialy different from non grey market ones, and the idea that there is no risk in their use and no one 'looses' as a result of their use is just not true.

cyprustimes


Joined: 22/10/2010
Posts: 867

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 11:33

digi turk always on, cheap monthly payments , ok only bbc choice and other channels too just less hassle and no cash up font ,, tv were living in cyprus is it that important

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 11:35

So SKY TV are getting subs from people living in cyprus and are getting there money from grey systems used in TRNC.



Anyway 6ms. im off out for a meeting.



I always thought if and is used in the same sentance was strange until now Toodle pip !



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7dkbbMPnaQ&feature=related

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
20/07/2011 11:37

message 60



everything you say in your post ,does this also apply to SKY ripping off digi turk?





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7dkbbMPnaQ&feature=related

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 11:42

0manitenance, if I had a penny for every time you posted after saying you were 'going out' I would have 23 pence by now



Everything I posted in msg 60 was true about grey market sky services BEFORE the recentish EU spat over such use in the EU. Since that , if sky becomes aware of its service being used in an area in the EU but outside those it has rights to sell a service in, it is now in a quandry. The deals it has signed with content providers say it MUST disconnect such a service. EU commission says otherwise and there is a major discrepancy that is yet to be fully resolved. With OSN no such quandry exists. Its exactly as I stated in msg60 and as it was for grey sky use BEFORE the EU involvment.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 11:48

But the spat was not a ruling,it was just her opinion,that stands for nowt,and until there is a ruling then SKY is just the same as OSN in cyprus,Why would people from sky have been in south cyprus a few weeks ago when they where raiding houses who where showing sky via card share system AND OTHER.



Now do not pollute the page with rubbish,it is a simple question,WHY WAS SKY INVOLVED IN THE RAIDS IN THE SOUTH.

NEVER MIND THE OPINION OF THE PONCIFIED WOMAN IN THE European Court of Justice.



now i am going out, i just love this song. you got 24pence now



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7dkbbMPnaQ&feature=related

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 11:56

There was a ruling on a case



http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1407234_eu_ruling_could_allow_fans_to_watch_live_premier_league_football_on_foreign_satellite_channels



Though not legally binding to claim it counts for nothing is nonsense.



As for the recent raids in the RoC, you are again confusing card sharing services and grey market services. To the best of my knowledge none of the recent actions in the RoC were against grey market use. However historcally users of both grey Sky service and grey OSN services in the Cyprus HAVE had their services disconnected because the provider, Sky or OSN, became aware that the service was being used outside the area they had rights for. It is unclear if Sky could do this today in light of the EU rulings. It is not unclear if OSN can and would do this today, if they are aware of useage of their service outside the areas they have rights to they have to disconnect that service.

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:03

6ms,



You were given the opportunity to to have a face to face meeting with the two companies that you keep targetting but like the public apology that Paul offered you (on this very forum) you are not man enough to accept these offer's.This says a lot about about the person and his real motives for posting on this forum.



With regard to Pauls meeting with Erolz-did you attend the meeting?



Did you actually witness the events-if you didn't- how do you know the facts or this just another fantasy !!.

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:06

Im back. msg66



Do you have proof of this on both counts? you said below



However historcally users of both grey Sky service and grey OSN services in the Cyprus HAVE had their services disconnected because the provider,Sky or OSN, became aware that the service was being used outside the area they had rights for.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:08

Magicart I attended the meeting between myself and Paul. Would you like to hear my personal impressions and views on that meeting and if I found it useless or not ?

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:11

Hi Zero - re msg 59/62



I DID try to make it clear for you re the European Court of Justice Case - suggest you revisit my previous posts on the matter - it covers your questions..



Now there is the matter of cost.... Most folks on here getting SKY/ Nova Cyprus / Digiturk pay the going rate - nothing is added.



They can buy the kit from UK / IRL/ Cyprus and in in the case of OSN / AD TV from an Arab country.. it is a LOT cheaper...

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:13

0maintenace msg68 as far as OSN disconnecting a service in Cyprus because it was being used outside the area they have rights for, was this not what happened to Proger that was widely 'reported' and discussed here ? As for Sky users as I say I am aware of a case historicaly where service was disconnected because sky became aware of use outside the area they have rights for, but in this case is was a personal account told to me by an indivdual and without their explicit permission I will not discuss the specific case or person in any detail. If you want to beleive than historicaly no sky service has ever been disconnected by Sky because it was being used outside the area they have rights for, then you believe that. I beleive otherwise.

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:14

i was told there was lots of eye rolling and throwing back of the head and puffing on cigarettes like some 1 had bellows up there trumpet.



Erolz



The Advocate-General's "opinion" is not legally-binding, but the full panel of EU judges follows such advice in about 80% of cases.



80% 80%



not 100%



msg66







Do you have proof of this on both counts? you said below







However historcally users of both grey Sky service and grey OSN services in the Cyprus HAVE had their services disconnected because the provider,Sky or OSN, became aware that the service was being used outside the area they had rights for.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:19

re 67



MagicArt



Why do you think it is OK to keep asking ME questions when you can't deal with the replies that demonstrate you were on VERY dodgy ground as regards to actual facts / events.. ?!



However, I'm a nice chap and will indulge, further..



>>You were given the opportunity to to have a face to face meeting with the two companies that you keep targetting<<



Actually - you suggested it .. I have responded - with my reasons..



>>With regard to Pauls meeting with Erolz-did you attend the meeting?

Did you actually witness the events-if you didn't- how do you know the facts or this just another fantasy !!.<<



ErolZ *had* to post what happened - following a version of events he couldn't recognise... you REALLY need to read the posts on here, properly :(



Now... as ErolZ isn't in this biz and has a LONG record of trying to have a reasoned debate with 'adversaries' who get personal with him - you have to ask yourself.. " who do I believe" ?

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:24

YES..YES YES.



PROGER1 TOOK THE ADVISE OF YOUR CRONIE 6Msmmmmmm AND BOUGHT ONE IN UAE TO SAVE MONEY.



He called osn from a fone number that was not a UAE number,and they turned of his sports package,they told him to call back from his arab number when he is back in UAE.



Why did mmmmmm tell a so called friend to go and buy OSN from an arab country if knowing what could happen to him,why would your oppo do that to a friend?



Washerman has offerd proger1 a favour to turn it back on for him,but proger1 being the proud person he is has not took up the offer,i imagine every time proger1 hears the name mmmmmm he goes crackers .



Again you take the fifth amendment route rather than show proof.



Anyway, im more than happy with OSN,im sure you would be if the bloodpressure kid was not your cronie.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:25

re 72 'Zero' David or Amanda - who knows..?



>>Do you have proof of this on both counts?<<



I can tell you of a nice chap in a village in the 'rump' RoC of Souni who had occasion to call SKY and showed his +357 25 number.. "Where are you calling from, Mr XXXX" asks the SKY person.. Mr xxxx answers truthfully and finds his SKY service terminated...



Now if this happened , Mr xxxx might very well have recourse via the Courts





re OSN - you've had several posters quoting OSN saying what they are likely to do... AGAIN .. I wonder why someone who posts a lot missed that ? !

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:26

The New OSN showroom is going to look nice when it is finished,@ least then customers can walk in and actually see it working in all its glory.

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:26

erolz,



Its a good idea but it won't be of any benefit.What happened between you and Paul is none of my business



The point I'm trying to make is that 6ms has made a statement concerning Paul based on second hand information.



He's always saying he only deals with facts but like most of his threads he latches on to anything that enables him to "put the boot in".



The one thing I would like to say is that you were man enough to meet Paul and have a face to face meetin-wish I could say the same about 6ms.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:30

0maintenace so there IS proof that OSN can and will disconnect a service if they become aware it is being used outside the area they have rights for. So that at least is all clear and agreed now. That is something I guess.

I am happy you are happy with OSN and I am sure many other users in Cyprus are happy with it too. If it ever comes to pass that they get disconnected by OSN for the reasons stated above, how happy they will be with it then is less clear. All I care about is that people have the right information on which to make their cesisions. If they buy a grey market service KNOWING it is such then good luck to them. If however they buy it thinking their is no risk with such a system then that is another matter.

As I have said before I am a child of the digital age, use no broadcast TV services at all, of any kind and am more than happy with that personaly.

As for taking the 'fifth' I do not know what you mean ?

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:32

He sent his stooge to test out the water,used some one up,thats all.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:34

re 74 one of the zero's..



You keep bringing up Proger1 - as an example to 'knock' me !! - yet all it does is re-enforce my warnings - THANKS..



1/ I didn't make any profit from advising him where to buy it at cost - anyone can go into a supermarket /shop in an Arab state and get the system turned on - indeed many members have done JUST that ...



2/ I've never made it a secret of the risk of using a tv package outside it's designated area and Proger1 did NOT contact me when he had the problem.... you also 'forgot' to mention that when he DID bring it to our attention he also had an offer from ME to sort it out...



BTW : I imagine Proger1 can speak for himself...

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:34

Magicart we all 'latch onto' things that support our arguments and often ignore those that do not. You yourself for example could be percieved as doing this I think, seemingly ignoring any negative behaviour of Washermans or certaon others on this forum, but highlighting and focusing on that of others to give one example.

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:37

Erolz



if you want the people to have the right information,why dont you advise all with sky and osn to never call the companies themself from a foreign number.



That might be more helpful and to call the person who supplied it if there ever is a problem.



Saying that would make you sound more credible than spouting your repetative pollution.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:38

re msg 79 'Zero'



Only someone bereft of a modicom of common would refer to ErolZ as my 'stooge' ..



IF you ever paid attention you'd know that ErolZ and I have "chewed the fat" over the CY prob for years - on various boards - and HAVE met ... there were c. 60 people who got to see how I looked on that night, alone... ;)

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:40

Im hoping later today i shall have the price of 4.2m dishes,various brands,jonsa and others,im hoping they shall be around the $1200 mark !

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:41

0maintentace you are confusing advise to be given to those who have ALREADY chosen a grey market service and advise to be given to those that are considering a service. This thread was orignaly about considering which service to choose. As such advising on the different types of service, card sharing based, grey market based, or totaly 'legit' based and what the differences are between those is entirely germaine to the thread and not pollutiuon at all, if you care about truth that is. If someone was to post seeking advise on how best to 'behave' having brought a grey market service I am sure my advise would be along the lines you have given.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:42

we are going to become a non profit organisation for 4.2m bird perches

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:42

cont re msg 82



Indeed - WHAT a good - idea - let's ask Washerman's clients / folks getting SKY to ring OSN / SKY and say "I'm concerned".. This are my box / viewing card details and I'm in Cyprus - am I entitled to be viewing your service..



You could get Dave to be the first and see what happens - in fact he could invite me around and I'll make the call !!! ....

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:44

You have an invite,please please,im sure david would love to pick your brains





























































































http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7dkbbMPnaQ&feature=related

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:55

The http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcELyKkOAak



have suddenly gone quiet,i wonder why,was it the reference to the cheap 4.2m bird perches for $1200 or hopefully less

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:57

Hi Honeybun

I even considerd the advice of 6ms of getting on a plane and going to dubai or some other UAE country and buying my own OSN box at almost a third of the price washerman sells it for,i am very glad i did not do that,as with air fares and hotel it would of worked out much more expensive than the system washermans company supplied me,plus one of cyprus44 members did just what 6ms had recomended,and he only got 6months use out of his 12 month subscription.

Washerman told me he was not an official dealer,but all his products came from the official company in UAE just the same as if i was to have got SKY,everything would of come from the offical SKY seller/subscription.



Anyway after doing the sums i clearly realised it would of been foolish to spend the price of a decent UK purchased car on a 4.2m dish just for the birds to pearch on all day.



But of course some people have more money than others and can afford an expensive bird perch,i could not.

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:57

Message 53



But does the same rule not apply to sky tv with regards to bringing the box to cyprus and watching sky tv here,but of course sky tv are getting the subs just the same as OSN are getting the subs,No one is ripping off the original supplier or card sharing,im sure sky tv is aware many in cyprus and other countries are watching there Sky tv outside where it was originally meant to be,just the same as OSN must be aware.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:59

Dear 'Zero'



David can and HAS picked my brains - or has done so as 'you'.. why would I expect any change..



It is indeed very generous of him to offer to be a guinea pig and hopefully he will arrange to have another system on hand and not be asked to pay the bill for a new one....



As I have repeated stated - when I'm over I'll make sure members know !

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 13:05

Davids posts are being moderated,so posts that he wrote this morning are now showing up.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 13:27

re msg 53 zero - the other one !



David - if is you.. it could be Amanda !



Folks can bring out their own kit or get it sent out - but should not pay a *penny* more than SKY charge - for the kit or the subs - would you not agree that should be the same for anyone shifting OSN / AD kit ?

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 13:34

Erolz,



Msg 81,



This is not an argument its an obsessive attempt to ruine a family business with the associated ramifications.



The mods and the owners of Cypruss 44 should hang their head in shame for allowing this perpetual attack on Pauls/Dopi's business to continue.I will be writing separatley to the owners asking them to explain why they continue to condone the actiivities of 6ms and have done for the past two years.His constant attacks cannot be in the best interests of this country or this forum.



We are all entiltled to express our views but bullying from someone who hides behind a keyboard in another country should never be allowed.



From this moment I will no longer engage in further debate with 6ms but will focus my mind on getting him banned -hopefully for life.



6ms please note --unlike your antics I have not gone behind your back-I have made my position clear and I will do my best to get you banned.



Thanks



Art

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 13:40

I will answer for david as his posts are being moderated.



I can agree to a certain extent with you.



But if i bring my SKY BOX out to cyprus then i do not wish to pay to have a 4.2m dish fitted,it is to expensive,i do not need 1 in the UK and i want BBC,so i have to have 4.2m



Now,if the customer does not mind paying extra it is there choice for sky dish.



Now onto OSN. If a customer wishes to pay extra for OSN in TRNC is that not the customers choice and bearing in mind the system gets imported to trnc legally,all duties paid,taxes,also air freight,which im sure you well know is not cheap to TRNC,DHL wanted 780 euros off david to send 12bottles of zerochlor to dubai,so im sure you do know air freight to TRNC is not cheap.

Ok then the instalation of the dish if you have not already got one,also setting up the box,not all of us can do it,you must agree?

Then 1 years warranty if anything goes wrong and also customer service,come on 6ms,its not a big price to pay.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 13:46

6ms. you are anti piracy or anti grey market,you say in your own words i think.



Even Erolz is anti piracy.



Please both of you tell me,more so you mark,that when you have been visiting TRNC why have you not tried to close down the many DVD shops that pirate DVDs on the premises,what have you tried to do about these turkish cypriot pirate DVD shops?

IMHO i think you would be shat scared of bowling into one of there businesses as you full well know,you would get knocked from girne to ireland and back if you started that caper.



I really do feel if you are anti pirate SAT TV it means you are anti pirate everything.



WHY HAVE YOU NEVER TARGETED ALL OF THE DVD SHOPS IN THE TRNC?



BE AS HONEST AS POSSIBLE !!

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 13:47

Dear MagicArt



>>From this moment I will no longer engage in further debate with 6ms but will focus my mind on getting him banned -hopefully for life. ..I have not gone behind your back-I have made my position clear and I will do my best to get you banned. <<



NO-one has gone behind anyone's back... I've not denied contacting any company, nor offering to help legit sat tv cos protect their product / content.



As for who should hang their heads in shame... you have an 'interesting' sense of right and wrong..



I note Washerman is suddenly in 'Trappist mode' about his posts re Uran / Dopi ? .. You need to report him to the mods, too ;)



If this is how you 'deal' with me for posting facts - I 'fear' for those who you will be falling out with...

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 13:52

MESSAGE 95.



you might be wasting your time.



He is a oppo of harold and iceman who in turn is a good friend of the board owner,i feel the reason dave gurr resigned was because 6ms was allowed to post again,all of this is just my opinion,which im entitled to and could well be wrong,but something tells me its fact.



Anyway,i do think it is all very silly,to be honest mark,david just shocked me when he told me what he would do if it was his business you was trying to ruin,but i shall let him tell you that himself in a email off board,as it has nothing to do with the forum or its members.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 13:54

0mainteance I am not 'anti piracy' per se. I am pro people making informed choices based on accurate information. I have repeately said on issue to do with piracy, I make no moral judgments. I do however and have raised issues of accuracy. I did recently complain about some advertising copied DVD's here on the forum but not based on them being copied but based on the claim they were HD quality, which they were not.



The issue is not with the 'morality' of either TV services or DVD shops here. The issue is people being able to make informed choices. When someone buys a copied DVD, there is a risk that the quality might not be good but beyond that there is little risk to a buyer. Paying a year up front for a service that could be disconnected does involve some risk and people making such a decision should know that there is some risk.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 14:02

[cont] just to add my position on 'piracy' has been so often expressed and so clearly expressed I am suprised that 0maintenace can claim 'Even Erolz is anti piracy.' I could show countless times when I say 'I make no moral judgments' re the use of pirated content or software or services. I will just offer one of the more recent but if you want more just ask. Msg27 here for example answers your 'shouted' question in msg 97 here.

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/65993.asp



I have been honest and consistent and clear in my views 0maintenace and yet you still misrepresent them.

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 14:07

i have a humax system with satellite dish for sale, currently have jsc sports package and ad premiership sports package in as new condition. There are loads of free channels available in english too.



The sports package will need a resubscription in september though.



For sale at £220 ono



0533 8328914

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 14:07

re 'Zero'



>>david just shocked me when he told me what he would do if it was his business you was trying to ruin<<



I wonder if he's really anxious to be able to post on here... I'm sure he didn't REALLY say that .. it was just your imagination.. right ?



The very thought of a guy who invites me around to be a guinea pig and prove a point and then might be 'threatening' me in the next doesn't add up', right ?! .....

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 14:13

(cont)





>>He is a oppo of harold and iceman who in turn is a good friend of the board owner,i feel the reason dave gurr resigned was because 6ms was allowed to post again,all of this is just my opinion,which im entitled to and could well be wrong,but something tells me its fact.

<<



I presume you are referring to ME by 'he'.. I have never met 'Harold' and I've been banned for what eventually turned out to be fact... The fact that I mention Iceman is MY business - and I've explained why - he is regarded by those in the biz to be THE best sat man - by those IN the biz...



I am sure ErolZ, Iceman, Ismet and others who *I* know and know Izzet will confirm their actions are their own and I have no influence over them.. to suggest otherwise belittles them..



As for AJ... he and I have also locked swords over the years on many boards and thanks to other folks that DO know us both, I can confirm that I'd be happy to see him return as a mod.. !

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 14:15

cont



some of you are making this very personal....



As long as I'm able to post fact - I will and I am not worried by threats - implicit, direct or 'subtle'.. it's says more about the person making them .....

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 14:25

No one is making threats.



as i said.what david said to me,im sure he will say himself and it has nothing to do with the board or its members or him wishing to post here again,as it has nothing to with with the mods either,its his choice of words and honesty if it was his business,im sure any man would do the same if some 1 was trying to ruin his company,like i will say again,think yourself very lucky its not davids company your directing your campaign against.



If you wish to think it as a threat,so be it,i never wrote it as that.



Also no 1 is trying to belittle mods or any one else,it is IMHO which im entitled to,like it or not.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
20/07/2011 14:34

Just had another 'interesting' email from someone who seems to think that my posts concerning the risks of using grey market / pirated tv



This is the bit I could reprint :



>>i hope you take the letter as good level advise and not a threat,but bare in mind if you ever try to ruin my business,that's all i have to say for now.<<



Note the wonderful grammar and spelling and you'd have zero clue as to it's origins... :( VERY sad...

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 14:40

Take it to the bank

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
20/07/2011 14:43

Actually, I posted the whole unsavoury email to the provider...

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
20/07/2011 14:45

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcH2EBfzQ1Y

magicart


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Posts: 985

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 19:26

Msg 97



You make a very valid point and one I have raised with him before on this forum



6ms proclaims to be The Peoples Champion but the truth of the matter is he has a vested business interest in the TRNC.Just take a look at some of the key evidence.



1,He only targets the sat industy-he's yet to attack other industries.



2.Dopi and Arriva have taken the full blunt of his attacks- over a 2 year period.



3,He's aware of the weak TRNC laws -offering no protectection to the likes of Arriva and Dopi because he does not live here



4, Arriva offered 6ms a public apology on this forum-he declined to accept it



5, I offered 6ms the opportunity to meet with Arriva/Dopi-he declined to accept it



6,He claims he has saved people a bundle following his advice-truth is people make up their own minds before making a final deicision -I was one of these people and my decision to drop Dopi was based on a number of factors-it was my choice.Dopi maintain that 6ms did his best to distroy

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 19:39

ctd,

CTD



their business!



Sometime ago I had respect for 6ms but then I realised that his perpetual attacks on these two companies were deliberate and were for his own gain.



I have a real issue in dealing with bullies-especially ones hiding behind a key board in a different country so I will do what is necessary to get this guy banned from this forum.



Thanks/Art

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 22:23

re msg 111

>>1,He only targets the sat industy-he's yet to attack other industries. <<

Er, could that be because I know what I'm talking about ..?



>>2.Dopi and Arriva have taken the full blunt of his attacks- over a 2 year period. <<

You forgot Uran - who are behind Dopi and Digital Supreme.. you're not very observant :(



>>3,He's aware of the weak TRNC laws -offering no protectection to the likes of Arriva and Dopi because he does not live here<<

Irrelevant...





>>4, Arriva offered 6ms a public apology on this forum-he declined to accept it<<

Suggest you re-visit the apology.. and what it was for...it wasn't serious.. but you fell for it..( icon for looks skyward...)





Cont:

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 22:31

>>5, I offered 6ms the opportunity to meet with Arriva/Dopi-he declined to accept it <<





Covered... remember my explanations to you ? - they were less than 24 hours ago..



>>6,He claims he has saved people a bundle following his advice-truth is people make up their own minds before making a final deicision -I was one of these people and my decision to drop Dopi was based on a number of factors - it was my choice.Dopi maintain that 6ms did his best to distroy their business! <<



a) not a 'claim' it is FACT..

b)Sorry- I'm not really interested to know why you dropped Dopi

c) Uran / Dopi kept making claims *I* knew they wouldn't be able to fulfil... The members on here posted plenty of times as to how rotten service was ( that's not being able to watch the 'advertised' line up, and customer service... Was *I* to blame for that ? ...



Thanks for providing me some entertainment!

steptoenoel


Joined: 27/04/2011
Posts: 116

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 01:45

have now three dishes on my roof would hate to add up what has been spent in 5 years.now we are quite content with free to view channels,but not know what dishes we can do away with.we are swallows by the way

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 13:00

Dear Steptoe



If you wish - you can have one dish removed - the ones you need point to Hotbird and Nilesat.. if it doesn't bother you - it won't do any harm to keep the spare dish.. but if you do want the spare gone - get a professional sat installer to do it as there is a bit of kit involved that allows three dishes to feed one receiver and your receiver has to be adjusted - to tell it just to look at the two satellites :(

steptoenoel


Joined: 27/04/2011
Posts: 116

Message Posted:
28/07/2011 00:39

Sorry for delay,thankyou for advice we are out in Sept.but as you say if spare dish not in road leave it.Cheers and thanks