Long awaited good news for retired NONE-CITIZENS in TRNC

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
29/07/2011 23:40

http://www.kibrisgazetesi.com/popup.php/cat/2/news/121451/PageName/Ic_Haberler

dandd3


Joined: 10/06/2010
Posts: 326

Message Posted:
29/07/2011 23:51

i understood most of it but what is a white kimlik ?

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
29/07/2011 23:55

Yorg. Any chance of an abbreviated version in Englsih please?

dandd3


Joined: 10/06/2010
Posts: 326

Message Posted:
29/07/2011 23:57

im working on it :D might take a while

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
29/07/2011 23:59

it is like an indefinite leave to remain without the rights to vote.However my reason for the post is more for green card which is the same only for the retired pensioners whom are not citizens.



white kimlik is more for gacos. ........or as we Cypriots refer to them........fijas

dandd3


Joined: 10/06/2010
Posts: 326

Message Posted:
30/07/2011 00:03

:D :D most cypriots refer to them as gara sakallari :D

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
30/07/2011 00:32

Oh deare, the translation I have is not clear at all. Can anyone summarise for me. For instance - who can stay for what for how long and why? And what does one do to get it.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
30/07/2011 03:57

Green card will simply be given to those who had moved and settled here after retiring or ones that made large investment (ie.bussiness) in TRNC.

Proof of your pension or investing a minimum of $500.000 would be enough to gain your green card.You'll have a citizens right other then voting and becoming a civil servant.



As for white card...........another step towards 'no solution is solution'.But then again that might be something good out of something bad,as far as I can see.It might even bump the property market again as far as the none-citizens are concerned.



now,who's got a cheap property for sale on a pre gC owned land?

andrew4232



Joined: 04/07/2009
Posts: 1543

Message Posted:
30/07/2011 07:13

i could think of better things to do with 500$k than invest in a business here just to get a green card !

R.C.T.Man.



Joined: 27/03/2009
Posts: 746

Message Posted:
30/07/2011 07:51

So what is the real outcome here, Do retirees get a white card, if so how do they apply , what are the benefits, ie does that do away with the annual residency.

You comments (applicable only ) are much awaited.

Teresa


Joined: 21/11/2007
Posts: 1018

Message Posted:
30/07/2011 08:09

This has not been passed yet so dont get too excited, there are mixed reactions from the various parties here and i am sure there will be lenty of opposition from the unions who are already complaining about mainland turks taking the jobs.

reyntj


Joined: 26/01/2011
Posts: 229

Message Posted:
30/07/2011 08:53

Thanks for your post does anyone know the timescales in relation to if this will become law and will it mean if you can get a green card by investing c 500000 dollar will that mean u won't need ptp and can buy pre 74

wanderer


Joined: 05/02/2009
Posts: 1653

Message Posted:
30/07/2011 08:55

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/trnc/tens-thousands-turks-could-become-trnc-citizens/20110729

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
30/07/2011 09:18

Looking back to when the TRNC stopped the issue of Permanent Residency due to a new system being formulated, I also looked at the changes to residency that occurred around the same time in Turkey. Now also looking at recent speech's made on the 20th and what is due to occur to the South in the coming year with regards to the EU, it all seems to fall into place with regards to the wish's of Ankara - maybe?

Not wanting to divert this thread on possibility of obtaining either a Beyaz or Yeşil Kimlik Kart there is much that has not yet been disclosed about either - however, it makes sence to issue the beyaz kimlik to all who wish a kind of permanent residency but who will have no say in the country's political life and no call upon the country's resources unless they are working and putting into the country as well. The yeşil kart seems to be more for those foreign investors who wish to eventually gain full citizenship and have therefore invested? My Turkish understanding

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
30/07/2011 09:24

I can find no reference in Kibris or anywhere on line that mentions the "proof of pension" bit as per Yorg's post above but that makes sence as well. There is always a general question of "How much do we need to have in the bank to get residency" that has never been answered successfully and still remains a bit of a mystery. For myself the sum of £27.45 in a UK account and 1970TL in a local account, plus proof that my pensions are paid into my UK account seems to have always been enough and immigration are very happy with that. I would like to think that having moved here for life and shown that I am a responsible person - not been caught yet - who is more than able to provide for myself on my own pension income without being any burden on the country would be proof enough that I could be accepted for a kimlik of whatever color. One thing I note in Turkey is that if you apply for residency you can only gain 5 years if you have 5 years left on your UK/EU passport - wait and see?

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
30/07/2011 10:50

Yorg, so you can be sure - Cyprus is for Cypriots and I agree that it should not bow to Turkey - however, in the same manner as UK is for British yet has eventually bent to the wish's of the EU, I can see that Cyprus will either bend to Turkeys wish or fall apart due to internal wrangling. There seem to be lots of steps in the direction of Turkey, made by the TRNC or pushed that way by Turkey, that are slowly changing the way the country is running. Perhaps the new idea on kimliks is just another one of those. I look forward to more information from any source with great interest.

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
30/07/2011 11:37

Thanks all of you for some clarification. I am very disappointed that I came here to become a citizen within 5 years and that door was closed, as I closedthe door on earlier lives to see out my days here as 'a Cypriot by adoption'.



Now why oh why did David Haye get citizenship when |I don't think he wanted it? Do you think if I put the TRNC flag on my shorts I might qualify. ? O.K. a bit tongue in cheek, but it seems a little unb alanced. In Australia you can 'buy' your way in only to temp.res. No such thing as perm. res any more, or citizenship to some who went to Oz expecting to become citizens. But they areconsistent in their rules. The confusion here is the constant changes.