TRNC. What would you change about the TRNC?

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 11:23

So if you had the chance what would you change and why? What would make things better?



For me it would be to :



1. Do away with the PTP system. Obvious reasons.

2. Insist on all new builds having solar energy and older houses offer grants toward solar power. Nuclear power , no thanks.

3. Make everyone recycle. For a cleaner more attractive country.

4. Deal with the stray dog situation. Kinder that way.

5. Open the crossing points fully without restrictions. To allow people to mix and make up their own minds.



So what are your five?

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 11:27

The Government

The infrastructure

Building control

Health system

Attitude

hetty


Joined: 31/07/2011
Posts: 167

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 11:35

All of the above

paddywack


Joined: 04/05/2009
Posts: 959

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 11:41

The ex-pats trying to alter and run the country.

Riddles


Joined: 26/04/2011
Posts: 429

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 13:36

The ex-pats who think Churchill is still PM...

vonny


Joined: 25/06/2009
Posts: 476

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 15:19

For me,it would be for Northern Cyprus to be recognized by the world & all embargos lifted,

Non stop flights, with other airlines flying to the north.

well known brand name shops would start opening up here.

Cleaners would be employed full time to clean beaches ect

More walkways,so people can take a stroll in the evening other than the harbour

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 15:37

All that is important nfo such as laws, local council, hospital, general information and any thing to do with day to day living were given out in printed English !!

Stonehousepub


Joined: 21/05/2009
Posts: 755

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 16:44

msg 5



good one!!

Stonehousepub


Joined: 21/05/2009
Posts: 755

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 16:49

1. The goverment



2. Close all borders



3. Health system



4. Tax system



5. Lending system

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 16:59

I think that could be a good answer pipie.

Interestingly the Pet Passport are written in Greek, Turksih and English. As all languages are languages of Cyprus i think everything here on both sides of the island should be written in all three.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 17:22

Id make all swimming pools chlorine free



Everything else in TRNC seems ok to me.



No problems

loulou



Joined: 14/05/2008
Posts: 785

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 17:26

How long have u got

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 17:36

Drop the 'N' in TRNC and call upon the Turkish troops to finish off the job they left unfinished in 1974!



Richard

davedee



Joined: 01/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 17:38

Now now Richard!

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 17:50

Sort out the Rubbish issue x 5.



Art.

paddywack


Joined: 04/05/2009
Posts: 959

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 18:08

Msg 13

Make you right.

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 19:36

I am with magic re the rubbish, the place resembles a cesspit. I made one of my infrequent forays off the Karpaz this am and saw a picnic area (Iskele Council) on the beach side opposite the hunting shop. Had a look and found miles and miles of crap (there were bins, but to be fair no instructions in Turkish on how to use them). Have these people no shame......And before some moron says it could be Brits, we all know it isn't....Not how we were raised (well most of us anyway)!!!!

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 22:17

1. Update the law and procedures, to include fraud

2. Accountable government, politicians,civil servants

3. Have legally enforceable rules and guidelines for advocates and estate agents

4. Introduce town planning and infrastructure

5. Free press

6. Allow freedom of speech and expression including allowing non TC's to protest

7. Introduce basic human rights laws

8. Independent police service with complaints procedure

9. Ombudsman to investigate complaints against government departments

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
06/08/2011 02:15

I am a miserable. ugly, stupid, old fat Hector.

Roomy


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Posts: 836

Message Posted:
06/08/2011 02:23

I'd probably drop a bomb on the World and take my chances

Roomy


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Posts: 836

Message Posted:
06/08/2011 02:24

What difference do you make?



Yap yap yap...

jimchris09


Joined: 13/02/2009
Posts: 547

Message Posted:
06/08/2011 03:17

I first visited TRNC in 1999. I decided then that I liked the place, after living in Africa for 12years from 1976 to 1988 and then Sultanate of Oman, where I still work. (I had also visited RoC in 1990 and 1991)



I bought a place in Karmi/Karaman in 2008 and hope to end up there permanently in 5-7 years time.



Wherever I have been in the last 35 years I have always remembered what an old "Africa hand" said to me..."Don't try to change anything in the short time you are here. You will go and the people here will carry on in their own way..no matter how much you think you have changed them!"



I don't want to change things. I don't think I have the right to anyway. I accept places for what they are and don't see the point of wishing for this or that.



I'm happy with this..Ok?

me-style


Joined: 03/08/2010
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
06/08/2011 04:53

Still no ex-pats here just some people trying to invent a nose up title on themselves and create a difference to the Cypriots (creates the attitude among the Cypriots that foreign people are second class). The foreign people here are just living here by choice and that does not create an ex-pat. The rest is up the the KKTC government and their rules and laws as residents and visitors we have to obey.



The rest is just dreams and waste of time

Ralph96



Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 531

Message Posted:
06/08/2011 05:56

Build a small wall in the middle of the main road so drivers cannot overtake.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
06/08/2011 07:03

Hector msg18



Just so you know re point 9



http://www.kktcombudsman.org/en/?op=oyasasi

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
06/08/2011 09:55

What would I change?



A pointless question, methinks, as all the sound advice already proffered to successive governments by the likes of Marian Stokes [Homebuyers Pressure Group] - enough advice to cure the ills of the property industry - has been totally ignored.



So, what chance does any 'Joe Blow', 'Charlie Negwort', or 'Gary Monger', have?



Two thirds of 'stuff-all'!

micklark


Joined: 18/06/2011
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
06/08/2011 10:22

Message 7

another one who wants to turn the TRNC into little britain, I cant find everything in plain Turkish in Bolton wonder why ?

why dont you learn Turkish ?



What would I change about TRNC ? probably only tackle the litter problem

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
06/08/2011 10:30

1. The gross indifference and job skills of public servants.

2. The who you know not what you know practice that is forcing our brightest young people to seek employment abroad. And costing the state millions.

BoTanica


Joined: 22/12/2009
Posts: 714

Message Posted:
06/08/2011 12:14

message 24: I Agree!!!



I would also just keep speed signs on the road - not warnings of cameras - stick to the limit and you won't get fined!

dippersgirl



Joined: 04/05/2010
Posts: 795

Message Posted:
06/08/2011 14:55

Why english mess.7 ??



This is not an extention of England



Sometimes I miss a good conversation in English or German, but I know I could never live in or around Girne because there are too many people trying to turn it into mini England. I know I am not a Brit by birth, but my husband is and he thinks like me on this subject. We came here because we liked it and then we want to change it into the place we left!!! Which we presumably didn't like as much at that point.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
06/08/2011 20:01

Roomy

Ah, how can I compete with your witty, pithy, intelligent, well argued, evidence based and thoroughly thought out comments? You were obviously president of your university debating society. I must accept it seems that I am not worthy to comment.

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
06/08/2011 20:42

I would simply ask for honesty from the powers that be...

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
06/08/2011 20:49

martinD41 - Well, we'll all be a long time waiting!



'Sometime - never!' immediately springs to mind!

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
06/08/2011 21:17

I quite agree Ten,unfortunately.....

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
06/08/2011 22:07

Micklark message 27



so you are quite happy with the property scandals that are rife in the TRNC?

micklark


Joined: 18/06/2011
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
07/08/2011 07:19

Quarmby - old ground, but corruption is everywhere, not just in the TRNC,

me !

I am happy with what I have got

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
07/08/2011 09:42

I don't think anyone want the TRNC to change into England, but there is only so long you can go on for until something has to give.

The property market is over, the country is broke, minimal tourists are coming, could it not be time for change?

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
07/08/2011 09:58

As I've repeated, 'ad nauseam', the 'Rich Club/Powers That Be' consolidated their wealth in the property boom years - so it's hardly surprising that they are maintaining their 'I'm alright, Jack!' attitude towards their fellow countrymen - so much for TRNC 'national pride'!



'Whoops-a-daisey!' another chucked 'Coke' can, from the 'Porsche Cayenne' in front, just bounced off my windscreen!

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
07/08/2011 12:17

Certainly the litter problem but an overhaul of the legal system that does actually give people rights and is not discriminatory by being based on who you know, rather than the details of the case.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
07/08/2011 12:59

The property market is over, the country is broke, minimal tourists are coming, could it not be time for change?



Blade, are you talking about the TRNC or the UK ?

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
07/08/2011 13:06

I wouldn't change a thing, i think its just smashing.

bertieboss


Joined: 22/07/2011
Posts: 149

Message Posted:
08/08/2011 01:44

Find a clock which goes backwards - to about 1990 and stop it there.

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
08/08/2011 10:20

Turtle, at least the UK doesn't have to be gratefull to Turkey for handouts.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
08/08/2011 10:59

When nepotism and corruption, which, it goes without saying, 'go hand in hand' and 'feed' off one another are addressed, only then can there be change for the better. Since these are endemic, there can only be further deterioration.



Gloom and doom?



No - reality!

cyprusman3



Joined: 09/06/2009
Posts: 297

Message Posted:
08/08/2011 10:59

get rid of all the negative alcoholics lol

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
08/08/2011 11:15

Let's change nothing - consider this.....we don't know how lucky we are!



Fred Dagg gives us TRNC expat'ites some inspiration - all the way from New Zealand!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYvMeT2GC14

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
08/08/2011 12:25

Is it so wrong to want the TRNC to improve in ways that will make life better for all not just expats? Is it really OK for the 'I'm all right jack' expat brigade to denounce anyone who dares to seek positive change?

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
08/08/2011 16:56

'My friends, countrymen, ladies & gentlemen - let me say, right away, that I do not consider this temporary lapse in the property development industry to be of any significance - we, the government, at this present point in time and having taken full note of your concerns, are currently addressing this most serious issue to the very best of our ability. We are all susceptible to this temporary glitch in our economy, which is facing us all! If what I am saying is challenged, I am only too ready to meet such a challenge. I am saying to you - we must build, but we must build surely!'



'What about the landowners, developers, builders, contractors, estate agents and advocates?'



'What about these people indeed, sir! Let me, at this point in time, allay your concerns and assure you that there are, indeed, better days to come - days that will, in due course, be so bountiful as to enrich and benefit us all - all we require is only the patience to wait to harvest our just rewards!'

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
08/08/2011 20:24

Why ask the question " what would we change" when we should all be aware by now that there is nothing that will change for the better throughout the whole world not just the TRNC ? Confirmation of this is available simply by listening to the world news now and again, even the sanitized Euro version. The whole world is going madder than it has always been and we are all doomed, doomed I say (Wildebeest (bless yer), can I have another EFES from the fridge please?)

micklark


Joined: 18/06/2011
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
08/08/2011 23:57

Cyprusman post 45



I'M not an alcoholic, i'm a drunk

Alcoholics go to meetings

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
09/08/2011 10:19

Well said Hector.

trooper


Joined: 04/07/2009
Posts: 211

Message Posted:
09/08/2011 11:26

msge 13; I actually agree with you for once. Nice one.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:46

erolz

Thanks for the info re the TRNC Ombudsman and link.

dearie


Joined: 08/03/2011
Posts: 142

Message Posted:
09/08/2011 22:07

1. Take away ALL PREJUDİCE - we are human beings if you want my blood I will give it freely - to save a life!



2. One law for ALL - Cypriot or Yabanci



3. Take a PRİDE in ones environment - clean up the area around you.



4. Bins Bins and more bins and the council will put signs up and encourage people to care for their village etc. and empty them.



5. EDUCATİON in all areas PROTECT wildlife- the environment - give blood - support charities - how to care for animals EDUCATİON - use SEAT BELTS save a life

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
10/08/2011 06:11

msg 43;

"Turtle, at least the UK doesn't have to be gratefull to Turkey for handouts."



Are they giving handouts?

News to me!But since you seem to know more,would you be kind enough to tell'em to pack their bags and to their own country along with their useless army that are accupying the best part of my country,under the false pretend of 'we are protecting you',whilst implaying the worst embargoes on us........promises promises............



Post edited , for inferred bad language , no need Yorg ........ Simbas

Hondouts are something you get in uk...........by standing at a que inside jobcentre.(there is me thinking those are the places people go to get help finding jobs.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
10/08/2011 08:10

Msg 55 edited for reason given

Simbas