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cyprusjoker

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Message Posted: 07/08/2011 14:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 129 in Discussion |
| So does this mean he will be released in 8 days, or what will happen after that |
philbailey

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Message Posted: 07/08/2011 14:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 129 in Discussion |
| Probally the most one-sided article I have ever read |
Billygoat

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Message Posted: 07/08/2011 14:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 129 in Discussion |
| Phil I think its a balanced article. Perhaps only one side of your brain is working |
andre514

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Message Posted: 07/08/2011 14:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 129 in Discussion |
| philbailey: spot on! as a greek cypriot or fellow traveller, ...you will appreciate there are indeed two sides to the "cyprus dispute" and you mostly get hear the turkish-cypriot point of view on "cyprus 44" andre |
fosterscan

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Message Posted: 07/08/2011 18:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 129 in Discussion |
| TRNC title deeds Is that pre or post 74 ? I would imagine he will be there a lot longer than 8 days. poor gary hasnt he been through enough locked up in the uk. |
0maintenance

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Message Posted: 07/08/2011 18:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 129 in Discussion |
| They may be trying to do a deal with him to find out who every customer was or is and if they have still got homes in the UK,it could end up like another orams. Is it possible he knows the UK addresses of all who has bought from him or given a deposit or paid in full. |
Billygoat

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Message Posted: 07/08/2011 19:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 129 in Discussion |
| Methinks it is more likely that their aim is to champion the cause of the defrauded British customers of Gary Robb and not to hound them to death. All Gary Robb's customers have had more then their fair share of suffering already. I interpret this trial within the framework of the relations between the Greek Cypriots and the TRNC government. Who knows ? It may be that some good comes out of this for the British customers if any progress is made towards completing the Arapkoy development. |
Bradus

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Message Posted: 07/08/2011 19:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 129 in Discussion |
| Totally agree with message 5, this is a very biased article. Particularly entertaining was the statement: "The TRNC authorities have attempted to facilitate progress towards a resolution of the unfinished construction at Arapkoy" Yeah! We have all witnessed their keen interest to solve the problems within the property and construction industry. Their commitment is over whelming! Perhaps Mr Hardy should take into consideration that like Robb, he is also a foreign developer and may well be the next path of attack? |
TRNCvictim

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Message Posted: 07/08/2011 19:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 129 in Discussion |
| Marilyn, Perhaps you could get Mr Hardy to expand on his statement "The TRNC Authorities have attempted to facilitate progress towards a resolution of the unfinished construction at Arapkoy" As a victim of both Mr Robb and the TRNC Authorities for the last 7 years from where I'm coming from, the only progress towards a resolution is lies, broken promises, and a very big cyprus shrug! but maybe Mr Hardy knows something I don't? By the way, he still hasn't answered a previous question regarding how many of his customers have their kochans!!!! |
TRNCvictim

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Message Posted: 07/08/2011 20:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 129 in Discussion |
| Amanda (mess 7) I would think the ROC Authorities already know my name & address seeing as how I have be working with Mr Tsimpedes for a number of years! but on David's next prison visit (in the boot of a car) please tell him he's free to give mine! I think Mr Robb and David already know my mobile number!! I'm sure I have a couple of texts from them! |
0maintenance

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Message Posted: 07/08/2011 20:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 129 in Discussion |
| Trish, its possible they already know your address,but for them i feel they do not care one little bit about what has happend at amaranta and the people who lost money,they would of shown there card if they had of used your address in the same way as the orams case,im looking forward, and for them all they care about is that the land in there eyes could be GC land and the houses on the GC land,if it is GC land then the SO called GC owners who may think it is there land may want to go the same route as they did in the orams case,if that is possible? I do not think david needs to go south in the boot of a car and as for txt msgs,well only you would know that and i would not think david knows your number,it would be no interest to him. Can they pursue the same route as was in the orams case with regards to amaranta valley? |
SuziSuz

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TRNCvictim

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zerochlor

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zerochlor

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TRNCvictim

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simbas


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Message Posted: 07/08/2011 21:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 129 in Discussion |
| Keep on topic Simbas |
0maintenance

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Message Posted: 07/08/2011 22:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 129 in Discussion |
| Come on Trish. Stay on topic,or we might have the ex-ministers coming to chat |
TRNCvictim

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Message Posted: 07/08/2011 23:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 129 in Discussion |
| cyprusjoker (mess 2) Don't think Marilyn or even Mr Hardy knows that! nod nod wink wink! however they are so well versed on the Aga Saga they might be able to move things along! although they can't seem to answer how many of their customers have their Kochans! Sometimes Simbas only one side of ones brain works, as Amanda having a split personality must know only to well! |
Bradus

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Message Posted: 07/08/2011 23:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 129 in Discussion |
| Thick as thieves springs to mind! |
TRNCvictim

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Message Posted: 07/08/2011 23:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 129 in Discussion |
| Bradus (mess 20) XX |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 08:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 129 in Discussion |
| Quite right bradus, but remember the other saying 'when thieves fall out'. Who knows what 'deal' our incarcerated friend has struck with his captors, not that I would suggest such a thng. Remind me girls, why did the any of the ladies from Aga need 'witness protection', were you being intimidated and who by? Seeems pretty cowardly that anyone should intimidate anyone who has lost so much. Of course at my age, I might just have dreamt it all and am likely to wake up in the shower. |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 09:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 129 in Discussion |
| Why would the defrauded purchasers addresses be of any interest to the RoC Govt. They paid money for a property in good faith, they did not receive that property, they never lived in that property (no trespass), Kocans never bore their name ergo, the transaction was never completed. Remember the Orams were sued for trespass. No I would think Robb's cohorts have more to worry about, will he give the RoC chapter and verse on all that happened before and during his reign? Will he give up anyone who ever received money from him, be it as a bung or as an employee. Will he give them chapter and verse on anyone who took part in hs alleged bully boy tactics? No, I think those who assisted him, in whatever way, have more to worry about. |
0maintenance

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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 09:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 129 in Discussion |
| I think in a case like this there could always be a deal to do,not that im ever in favour of the dangling carrot,but im sure those bubble n squeeks will be very interested to find out each and every buyers address if they have UK property. |
Troodo

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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 09:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 129 in Discussion |
| the Orams were sued for trespass. Must have been the highest penalty for trespass ever....... |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 09:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 129 in Discussion |
| On this occasion Omaintenance, you are wrong. The UK addresses of his cohorts are what they want. I am sure they have the addresses of all the purchasers, not difficult, but of no use since they never completed their purchases. Troodo - I agree. |
blade

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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 09:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 129 in Discussion |
| Handing over money for something is purchasing it. Hence its still against the law. |
dalartokat

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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 10:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 129 in Discussion |
| Whatever happened to Jacqueline Kocak(Jones) in all this, as a Financial Director of Aga? Is she being held responsible for anything? and what happened to all the office paperwork with all peoples personal details? |
mmmmmm


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| re 12 one of the zeroes - one never knows which... >>all they care about is that the land in there [sic] eyes could be GC land and the houses on the GC land,if it is GC land then the SO called GC owners who may think it is there [sic] land may want to go the same route as they did in the orams case,if that is possible? << What with 'so called' ? - Do you know why the IPC exists ? I'll give you a reality 'clue' .. Do a little research on Turkey before the ECHR and the rulings which brought about a local remedy to redress the disenfranchisement of GC homes.. |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 10:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 129 in Discussion |
| TRESPASS IS AGAINST the GC law, being hoodwinked into buying it but not receiving it, is not. |
SuziSuz

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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 10:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 129 in Discussion |
| Debbie Kocak nee Jones aka Jacquline Kocak, Robbs imaginary Financial Director is still at large but has spoken to the UK authorities or so we are led to believe - sure she will get her just desserts at some time after all what goes round comes round |
mmmmmm


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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 10:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 129 in Discussion |
| It's at times like this that I wish we still had access to MSN forums such as " 'trnc' politics", and the "AGA property owners" board.. Whatever happened to the gentleman from Shropshire that told members that my posts ( warning folks NOT to invest) were 'nonsense' and I got banned... Boy those threads would make interesting reading, now.... |
SuziSuz

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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 10:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 129 in Discussion |
| mmmmm I think you are referring to Larry Smith - we would all like to read that forum now - there is a little left as cached and makes interesting reading |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 12:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 129 in Discussion |
| Is it me or does there seem to be a concerted effort to frighten the Aga victims? Wouldn't be the first time. Why now I wonder?? |
Billygoat

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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 15:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 129 in Discussion |
| Marilyn What do the Grrek words mean under the photo of the Trojan Horse ? |
Tenakoutou


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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 17:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 37 of 129 in Discussion |
| Billygoat/Msg 36: They read: 'Beware of Greeks bearing gifts!' |
zerochlor

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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 18:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 38 of 129 in Discussion |
| message 26 was it only trespass or also back rent on the land? |
andre514

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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 19:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 39 of 129 in Discussion |
| "a story of the trusting, manipulated, tricked by a bunch of fraudsters and with little chance of compensation for the many who lost out" the 300 ex-pat victims of gary robb's crumbling "amaranta valley" project? or the "landowners" who now have until december 15 to apply to the IPC? no, the greek cypriot people!!! if they pretend these shenanagins will bring them one millimetre closer to the territory some of them supposedly occupied, they will soon awake and realise their hopes, dreams and fantasies are the stuff of gc politicians' pie-in-the sky hubris, and fat legal paychecks compensation? maybe, if britain meekly bends to the demands of the bankrupt ROC and ships over robb's frozen funds, which would primarily be used to pay off court fines and lawyers' fees but a useful way of scaring off eu-buyers and developers from the north? perhaps, if there still are any, at the expense of further alienating the tc side in the "reunification" talks |
dalartokat

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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 19:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 40 of 129 in Discussion |
| Message 33...Mark, whatever happened to "Fat Tony" FT1? You can access limited parts of TRNC Info still, makes interesting reading, especially Johhny Foreigners predictions. |
0maintenance

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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 20:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 41 of 129 in Discussion |
| The frozen funds in the UK are now under control of the Asset Recovery agency/SOCA,once they get there grubby little hands on the money its almost as good as gone into there coffers. No one is going to get any of that money other than maybe some lawyers,what is left over SOCA /ARA will then take,ARA failed in 2007 so it was decided to roll it in with the newly established SOCA sometime in 2008,both in my opinion are corrupt organisations and for every pound they recover it was costing around 4 pounds to recover the 1 pound. Now its thought that it costs £15 for every £1 recovered. It makes me wonder who the real crooks are! So if there is 1.5million held in the UK by SOCA, you can guess how much may well be left once they have finished paying there forensic accountants and the rest,EXAMPLE,baker tillys charged £389,000+VAT and rising for just 3 months work for the Asset Recovery Agency back in 2008. (They Are Crooks) |
0maintenance

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Message Posted: 08/08/2011 20:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 42 of 129 in Discussion |
| The £389K was for there accounting only and for one case.The final bill was over 400k |
blade

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Message Posted: 09/08/2011 10:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 43 of 129 in Discussion |
| The Roc is just making another example with Gary Robb as they did with the Orams. A reminder why you shouldn't but the so called exchange land how ever cheap it is. |
philbailey

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Message Posted: 09/08/2011 15:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 44 of 129 in Discussion |
| Or msg43,or take your chances and expect them |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 09/08/2011 16:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 45 of 129 in Discussion |
| Well for someone who claims just to 'know ' Gary Robb, omaintenance you are rather well informed. |
Billygoat

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Message Posted: 10/08/2011 20:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 46 of 129 in Discussion |
| re the £1.6 million, is this the actual amount that the UK police are holding on the Gary Robb account ? Is this the amount actually available for handing out to the victims of his crimes, or is it going to be seriously less than this when all the lawyers and accountants take their share ? |
TRNCvictim

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Message Posted: 10/08/2011 21:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 47 of 129 in Discussion |
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Billygoat

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 00:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 48 of 129 in Discussion |
| TRNCvictim This thread is about Gary Robb. Why are you trying to hijack it ??? |
Tenakoutou


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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 07:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 49 of 129 in Discussion |
| Hey, 'Billygoat', pull your horns in! Can't you see that Msg 47/TRNCvictim's question is perfectly valid and, indeed, all part and parcel of the property scam 'business'? |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 09:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 50 of 129 in Discussion |
| billygoat, she has the right being a Gary Robb victim and knowing a lot more about what other scams are going on here than you obviously do. Perfectly legitimate to ask about the author of the article I would have thought, which is where the post originates from. GIve it time, we might get the answer and who knows we might find that 'birds of a feather' comes to mind. Join the dots, join the dots. |
mmmmmm


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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 10:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 51 of 129 in Discussion |
| re 34 Suzi I didn't want to mention him by name - as I don't know his circumstances - he was a staunch defender of AGA and regarded me as a trouble-maker - but still 'allowed' me to post, occasionally ! .. Ultimately, EVERYTHING I warned of came to pass and I didn't ever hear from him - again - as I think he is a bit responsible - as IF he had allowed my posts ( and other who KNEW the facts) through - perhaps some folk could have decided who was more likely to be right and saved a packet.. :( re 40 dalartokat FatTony and the 'TRNC' info board.. I had wondered what happened to him ...! |
mmmmmm


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| cont what the url for this board, please, Dalartokat - or is it only available via a cached version .. ? |
Marilyn

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 12:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 53 of 129 in Discussion |
| Dear Ms TRNCvictim, whoever you may be ..... It does appear from Pauline Read in message 50 that you are a genuine victim of the Gary Robb / Aga Developments Ltd disaster. If so, you have my sympathy and that of Wellington Estates Ltd. Unfortunately, neither the company nor Mr Hardy can do anything significant to give justice to the customers of Aga Developments Ltd. The company has received mixed comment on Cyprus44, and normally does not respond to questions posed by anonymous persons on a public Bulletin Board. Customers of the company and the TRNC authorities have a right to question Wellington Estates Ltd and call them to account. Customers regularly contact the company and I believe their queries are dealt with in a professional way. However, there is no general right enjoyed by anonymous members of a Bulletin Board to question the company, nor myself concerning its operations. |
SuziSuz

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 12:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 54 of 129 in Discussion |
| Msg 53 Can the statement be taken that In other words no title deeds have been issued to wellington estate vict.....sorry customers, why do I say that. Well if title deeds had been issued Mr Hardy would be shouting it from the rooftops and advertising that fact till he was blue in the face |
Bradus

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 12:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 55 of 129 in Discussion |
| Considering the amount of buyers that have still not been given their deeds, several years after handing over their money, I think that this is a very valid question to be asked. It is however a question that is rarely answered. I suspect that most developments would fall into the don't hand over deeds category, or want extra money if they do. I have always been amazed how many buyers are totally unconcerned about not having their deeds and simply accept it as the Cyprus way.Even more worrying is when they are seen on forums stating that they have had no problems buying, everything was straightforward. Yes................but you don't own "your" house! |
philbailey

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 16:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 56 of 129 in Discussion |
| Msg 55, maybe they think they do? |
Marilyn

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 17:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 57 of 129 in Discussion |
| I have taken advice from colleagues, and would like to contribute as follows - It is agreed that several developers would appear reluctant to issue Title Deeds to customers, despite the fact that the customers have paid all the contracted monies and they have been living in 'their' house for several or many years. While not wishing to defend such actions, purchasers should be aware of some aspects of the process of issuing title deeds. Shared Title Deeds are normally available for issue at any time, and usually refer to the land on which properties may have been built. There are many drawbacks of a Shared Title Deed, and in our opinion, they should be avoided unless the property is an apartment. Individual Title Deeds can either refer to either, firstly, the property and land, or secondly, simply to the land, despite the fact that a property stands on the land. To be Continued |
Marilyn

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 17:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 58 of 129 in Discussion |
| In order to be eligible for issue of the former, the development must possess planning permission and building permits. Of late, it is most important that the Final Inspection of the development demonstrates full compliance with the plans lodged with the building permits. Also, the development must have granted green land, if appropriate, and constructed roads, pavements and streetlamps. The road must be covered with asphalt and not pavers. A trafos or substation is normally required for developments of more than 5 villas. Consequently, many builders have tended to issue the second type of Individual Title Deed. This can present problems for customers at a later date, as the title deed is limited to the land and does not include the property. As this is a complex matter, I have asked Mr Hardy to provide a write-up on the company website in due course. However, the main safeguard for customers is to register the Contract of Sale as soon as it is signed. |
cyprusLulz

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 18:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 59 of 129 in Discussion |
| Message 51 a bit like a certain washed out woman and his carboot satellite deals ? |
philbailey

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 18:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 60 of 129 in Discussion |
| do they register the contract of sale at the ROC land registery? To quote NN is if smells like... looks like....... it probally is |
dalartokat

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 18:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 61 of 129 in Discussion |
| Mark...message 52... have sent you e mail. |
Bradus

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 18:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 62 of 129 in Discussion |
| I can't believe the reply from Marylin! Are you really suggesting that builders are not handing over deeds because it's in the buyers interest? Stop spewing this nonsense about being protected because you have registered your property. Yes if you register the developer cannot take out a mortgage (although there have still been cases where this has happened) but what about the problem of memorandums or the developer going bankrupt and your fully paid for property still being his assets DESPITE IT BEING REGISTERED. People need protection from the day they pay in full. Lets stop making excuses for not handing over deeds. At the end of the day such things as parcelisation, building permits and full completion of sites should be in place ready for a full and legal handover. If they are not in place then the developer should not ask for payment. To excuse this system is beyond belief. |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 18:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 63 of 129 in Discussion |
| Why is there no general right for the public to ask questions of a public company such as Wellington Estates Limited, as a public comany everything should be available to all members of the public, after all we could all be potoential buyers (lol). Marilyn, my dear registering the Contract is no safeguard as many who have, only to find court memorandums tucked in behind them will attest. So tell me, out of interest, how many of your purchasers have their Kocans, hardly a state secret. To make it simpler, how many of your purchasers, living a finished property have received their Kocans? I am not asking for names, just numbers. Oh and to keep on the topic, how's Gary holding up under questioning, anyone heard? |
Billygoat

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 21:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 64 of 129 in Discussion |
| Amen to that ! Yes, whats the latest on Gary Robb ? That is what this thread is supposed to be all about. I do think you have been hard on Marilyn. She is not a representative of the TRNC government, nor of the Construction Union. I am surprised she has the patience and politeness to handle your aggressive challenges. |
0maintenance

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 21:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 65 of 129 in Discussion |
| message 45 i have never made claims Of course i know of him just like many others do. In my message 42,it had nothing to do with him. It was an example of another case and how much of the estate was used up in costs to pay legal fees. No 1 get anything when ARA and SOCA are involved,they are the biggest thieving bas***s walking this earth |
TRNCvictim

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 22:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 66 of 129 in Discussion |
| Marilyn (mess 57) I have been onto your website this evening and one sentence stood out and I quote:- "All North Cyprus Properties are currently undergoing a significant and sustained capital appreciation" please explain where these properties are? the TRNC is a very small area, and I can understand if you know where these significant and sustained area's are you wouldn't want to divulge it to the general public! but perhaps it would be in your company's interest to let all us know! Mr Hardy could do a write up on where exactly these area's are? Marilyn (mess 53) I am unfortunately yet another Aga victim, I really don't want either your or Mr Hardy's sympathy, let alone to give justice to any of us, anyone selling anything in the TRNC should expect to be under scrutiny! if there is no general right for anyone to question either you, Wellington Estate's or Mr Hardy, why have you advertised Mr Hardy's article's on mess one on this forum? |
0maintenance

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 22:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 67 of 129 in Discussion |
| There is a shift in prices in the rental market,they are all going crackers with there prices,not sure about the resale market. Seems every one is taking notice of the writing on the wall and trying to rent. |
TRNCvictim

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0maintenance

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 22:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 69 of 129 in Discussion |
| I saw Google today,he is not so little any more,ive no idea what they are feeding him on but he is a big sweetie,nut cracker suite for him soon i would think However,Our opinions differ greatly regarding SOCA/ARA,in 2009/2010 they managed to steal quite alot,but what they stole actually cost maybe 4 times this amount to recover. In 2009/10 SOCA denied criminals access to assets worth £317.5 million. This includes work that has been done as a result of SOCA referrals to there partners. Since April 2008, the assets subject to recovery and consent orders in there cases have included 205 properties or areas of land; 37 vehicles, including cars, a plane, a helicopter, two boats, and a petrol tanker; 190 bank accounts; 17 financial products including pensions, investments and shares; 56 cash payments; and numerous other assets including paintings, licence plates, cattle, and jewellery. The public get non of this money as compensation,it all goes back onto the magic roundabout |
TRNCvictim

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Message Posted: 11/08/2011 23:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 70 of 129 in Discussion |
| Do you know what Amanda, I couldn't careless where the money goes as long as Aga Construction and their Directors keeps their grubby little hand off it! the crown prosecution service can have every penny as Dylan said to his magic tom toms what goes round comes round on the round about of life! |
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| 50,000 Euros,he should be out on bail soon,with the GC not recognising the borders,i wonder if he will be able to reside in the north and sign on each day in the south |
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| Wonder where he will stay ? |
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| 100,000 Euros actually,they would not accept 50,000 Euros. Greedy *as****s |
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| Message 74 Driving past there yesterday there was people paint-balling there,all in camouflage clothing,looked great fun but to hot id of thought. |
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| "Greedy *as****s " and Gary isn't ?????????? |
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| 'Careful', Yeni ..don't upset the zeroes.. or you'll start getting copious 'adviSe' by email ))) |
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| I can see this thread being closed .... Yenibob - just ignore 'zero'(es) .... he / they have made their howler for the day elsewhere... there is a smarter way ;) |
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| Marilyn (mess 1) It seems there are many agenda's to do with Gary Robb He and his friends have a lot to answer for? |
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| Getting back to the original article, I rather like this uneducated line.... 'One should never underestimate the ingenuity and cunning of the Greek Cypriots. They are the ancestors of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle and possess impressive intellectual talents. " Ancestors?.... grief they must be getting on a bit. Perhaps the writer is unfamiliar with the word 'descendants' |
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| have they set a trail date yet ? |
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| Hi Jetski (mess 115) Thanks for the correction. It is good to note that standards of literacy are not dead. |
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| Thanks to the member that brought this to my attention , i read the posts before i deleted them , disgraceful ! All above messages that are deleted are either off topic , or for personal insults and bad language which promptly went onto be a slanging match . Amanda , Zero & Yenibob , take a break Simbas |
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Reason: Thread was against the forum rules. |
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| simbas Thank goodness for your post I thought I was going a little strange |
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