ENGLAND: Burning towns - the British empire is finished - read history

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 17:29

In the past days the world has seen the last spasms of the once great British Empire. If you don't see the signs of the times and think that 'bringing out the army' or 'police with water cannons' into the streets of the cities of the UK will solve the terrible consequences of the decline - you are in for a far heavier shock. And it won't be long before it happens.



In the threads on this board about the burning of cities hardly anyone showed any interest in the only important question: WHY and WHAT TO DO to save the (white) culture of the country, no, let me name the real problem: EUROPE.



The destruction of the Occident is near - and too many are still looking into the wrong direction.



Our children and grandchildren will one day curse us for our ignorance.

parkview



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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 17:33

I have to say I totally agree with you Dutchcrusader.

keithr


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 17:35

That was my country once, what a dump now....

philbailey


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 17:45

So I guess nobody will be going back for free health care again



I forgot how many posts on here saying return due to health



or have to go for operation etc

parkview



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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 17:57

You also have to remember many people on this board have paid in all there lives while working and living in the UK and have come here to retire, so whats wrong with going back for an operation unlike the immigrants that go to the UK for hand outs and never pay a penny and get their operations for free. How much of those have contributed towards NHS

bigjuss


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 17:59

after paying thousands into the uk pot,most of our working lives,dont you think we are entitled to recieve nhs healthcare?

or is free healthcare,benefits and council properties only for people who arrive in the uk in backs of lorries?

get real!!

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:00

@ msg 4: Phil, you would do especially yourself - and us also - a favour when you keep looking at TRNC from your house in the UK - and bring burning questions on this board about homosexuality in TRNC etc.

Dozens of your idiotic questions on C44 are categorised in "the sad man is sorry that he can't live in TRNC so he hopes to bother us with his nonsense".

This thread is not an item for your intellect.

Jessie


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:06

Msg 5 the NHS would collapse without immigrant workers. As for the UK being a dump I suppose it depends which part of it you live in. Stunning coastline rolling countryside contemporary city centers and picture postcard villages. There's far more to the UK than inner city areas you know.

yenibob


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCsrcnUy8ao&feature=youtu.be

TopTen


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:10

Msg 7

Well said DC brilliant

bigjuss


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:11

i dont know where you are jessie,it doesnt really matter.....i bet you i could get hold of crack,heroin or a gun within a couple of hours anywhere in the uk,doesnt matter how 'picture postcard' it is...

too many people unaware of the underbelly of british society,maybe they cant see it,looking through their rose tinted glasses......

turn on the news jessie.......this IS england!!

hattikins


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:23

It's not often that I agree with DC but must admit to doing so on both of his postings on this subject.

swyflot


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:28

Msg 5 and 6......Absolutely......spot on !!!!

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:28

@ msg 8, Jessie: (...) As for the UK being a dump I suppose it depends which part of it you live in. (...)



▶ Jessie, you are looking at details, look at the BIG picture. Your (and many others including mine) country is facing the last days of the decline of every empire - destruction from inside.

Unfortunately the lesson history teaches us that we don't learn from history.

Best thing I can add in my case: "It will last my time (I hope)".

It's written in white paint on the white walls of my villa.

I'm fine, thank you.

But how long can my children and grandchildren say the sam..?!

yenibob


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0QqncPWaDA

yenibob


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:31

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzxuQUjk6Ms

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:32

Sorry, typo: (...) Unfortunately the lesson history teaches us that we don't learn from history. (...)

▶ Unfortunately the lesson history teaches us is that we don't learn from history.



And:

Sorry, typo: (...) But how long can my children and grandchildren say the sam..?! (...)

▶ But how long can my children and grandchildren say the same..?!

negativenick


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:34

the neg nick "boring post of the week".......



zzzzzzzzzzzzz

DoctorW


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:35

Sorry Hans,



the British Empire died a long time ago, you are unfortunately very very late with your warning!

parkview



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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:36

Can't say we expected anything else from you........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, me thinks you are becoming a little to predictable.......zzzzzzzzzzzzz

bigjuss


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:39

all this aggro has been brewing for years....

we open the floodgates for the arseholes of the world to invade our shores,they form crime gangs and drug syndicates to rape as much black money out of our economy as possible to better thier lives at home when they have finally had enough or get kicked out of britain.

the rest of the immigrants work on minimum wage,live in rented properties and get sh*t loads of benefits as they are on low wages.family tax credits,free health care,dentistry,free schooling,etc etc.is it any wonder britain is on its knees?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:39

@ msg 19: (...) Sorry Hans, the British Empire died a long time ago, you are unfortunately very very late with your warning! (...)



▶ Not so, DioctorW! You are wrong, because I wrote: "In the past days the world has seen the last spasms of the once great British Empire". Please, may I repeat: "the last spasms". Do we agree here?

Jessie


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:39

Re msg 11 - I bet I could get hold of those things within ten minute drive of where I live but I suspect it's the same in most countries. Probably the same in the TRNC.

Lambousa Gordon


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:40

Listen to this:



"London rioters: 'Showing the rich we do what we want'"



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424



The sheer inanity of their comments makes one despair. The "rich" by the way are those with shops. Incredible... and very very sad.

Wibow


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:44

msg: 5, 6 and 21 so very very true.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:44

@ msg 21, bigjuss: (...) the rest of the immigrants work on minimum wage,live in rented properties and get sh*t loads of benefits as they are on low wages.family tax credits,free health care,dentistry,free schooling,etc etc.is it any wonder britain is on its knees? (...)



▶ May I, only an impartial watcher of the UK from afar, ask you how 'immigrants'* can find UK jobs easily when an unnamed but alarming high percentage of native Brits are without a job..?!



* Wrong! They are EU citizens!

parkview



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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 18:45

I am very sad to say I left UK for my daughters sake for this very reason, what a shame this is the legacy that is left behind for the young people. I had many fantastic years in London, but would not want to go back now. I for one do feel that the UK will never be the same again which is so sad for future generations. I have yet to find a perfect place to live, but until that time I will settle with this wonderful country KKTC with all its faults but at least for the time being myself and my daughter are safe and there are still strong family values here which seem to have gone by the wayside in the UK.

bigjuss


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 19:03

hi dc,

good question.....most of the unemployed brits dont want a job....you are better off on benefits.

rent paid,coucil tax paid,child benefit,and if youve got kids,all in all youd be raking around £500 a week out of the system,and if you go to the doctor and tell him youve got a bad back,well,youre living a life of riley.

you get a new car every 3 years,delivered with flowers,tax paid,servicing paid for,reduced insurance and can park it anywhere when you do your window cleaning round,as they give you disability badges! knock a few kids out then they give you a 5 bed property living next door to a surgeon! where are you gonna get a job that can match that lifestyle?? especially if like most of the younger generation,you failed at school or school failed you.

it doesnt take a mathematician to work out that youre better off on benefits......

the government has created this 'design for life'........grab all you can culture...

Lilli



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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 19:43

sad to say Bigjuss that about sums it all up, but many do want to work. Sadly jobs are not that easy espicially in the construction industry as the eastern europeans do the same for a lot less money. They have been reading out facebook and twitter messages inviting people to take aprt again. Saying its great fun, its like christmas , not one bit sorry for the distruction they have caused and will take years to pay for. Stop the benefits and make them clean up the mess. Maybe this will be a turning point for the government to make many changes and the young will have to do apprenticeships not school, dole. something really needs to change. DC totally agree with you also x

DoctorW


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 19:54

Afraid not Hans



The death of the British empire came in 1947 with the granting of Independance to Pakistan. This is when George VI became King and not King and Emperor.



Some may argue that the return of Hong Kong in 1997 saw the end of the Empire but by this time it had long been dead and buried, spasms had faded long before that time and the Commonwealth had taken it's place.

JohnW


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 20:03

Sorry DC but you are 64 years late. No point in fussing about the empire now.



Here is the reality:



http://www.britishempire.co.uk/timeline/colonies.htm

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/4064



Impressive isn't it. Makes the Dutch effort look a bit daft and we even managed to swap a tiny island with nothing but nutmegs on it for New York(New Amsterdam). de Ruyter must be spinning in his grave, poor cloggie.

DoctorW


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 20:04

Bigjuss, message 21



I agree with hans. These people are EU citizens and are entitled to any benefits they claim and quite honestly they do work that seems beneath the vast majority of Brits.



I work for a company that uses a large amount of cleaners. Money is not brilliant but way above the minimum wage. You know what? very few English people are prepared to do it, we have immigrants doing most of the work. Not because they are cheaper, but because they are the ones prepared to do it. English people find the work too hard, too boring, or simply can't be bothered to get off their backsides to come to work.



Dont tell me that they are here taking our jobs, they are here working and contributing taxes to pay benefits for the idle Brits who dont want to get off their backsides and work.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 20:22

@ msg 30: (...) The death of the British empire came in 1947 (...)

▶ DoctorW: I had hoped that you would have a broader understanding of history than just plain dates. I said: SPASMS.



@ msg 31, JohnW: (...) Makes the Dutch effort look a bit daft and we even managed to swap a tiny island with nothing but nutmegs on it for New York(New Amsterdam). de Ruyter must be spinning in his grave, poor cloggie. (...)

▶ JohnW. In several recent posts I've tried to reply to you as one grown up to another, in a final attempt. Again, unfortunately, you won't make it work.

"We even managed" in your post -Huh? You need a qualified doctor. "You" didn't do a thing in past centuries. In your case it's called "British megalomania".

BTW: is this wanted man in the UK still working for you?

JohnW


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 20:31

BTW: is this wanted man in the UK still working for you?



I presume you are refering to Tony Noble. I thought everyone new by now. After three and a half years of my urging him to go back and deal with his outstanding issues he finally went a couple of months ago. He knew what he was facing when he went back, he made contact with the authorities through his solicitor and told them he was coming back. He is now serving a 9 months sentence for jumping bail, two months for possession of drugs and his trial for possession with intent to deal will be coming up shortly. He expects to get a few years for that. Give him some credit. He went back of his own accord, albeit belatedly.

halffull


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 20:35

Hans your right the last great empire, the roman empire imploded!!!

JohnW


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 20:41

DC



Let us get something else straight. You have over the years tried to damage my business with references to Tony. Tony made no secret of his background. I have no hesitation having worked with Tony for three and a half years in saying that at heart he was a good person.



When one looks at my and your upbringing, education and opportunities have we made that much of them really? What of him, born in prison, father disappeared while he was in prison, brought up by relatives. No education, can hardly read and barely write. Given his background and opportunity we can hardly say that he "fell" into bad ways. He was never taught anything else and so when he was a night club bouncer he took drugs. Wether he dealt in them his trial will no doubt tell us. cont.

JohnW


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 20:42

cont.



It is your habit to constantly denigrate people wether for spelling, grammar or whatever. You should be ashamed. Get some humanity for god's sake. People are what they are. Not many with a poor start manage to lift themselves out of it. Nevertheless they don't deserve to be constantly sneered at.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 20:48

@ msg 34, JohnW: (...) I presume you are refering to Tony Noble. I thought everyone new by now. After three and a half years of my urging him to go back and deal with his outstanding issues (...)



▶ And all the time you employed and advertised in TRNC, on board(s) and in news paper(s), a UK wanted man* (criminal).

===> I'll give him the credit everyone deserves in his circumstances - a person who has done his time.

But how about YOU, JohnW, his employer for 3,5 years?



* I think he is right and brave to do it - but I really hope NEVER to see your drugs involved employee in the area where my children live. Nor in mine where I live.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 20:58

@ msg 36: (...) Let us get something else straight. You have over the years tried to damage my business with references to Tony. (...)

▶ Prove it or you are a liar.

▶ I believe in face to face talks, so I invite you to call me (0533 864 5433) and we will sort out our different "opinions". I'll name the place and you can call the language. Awaiting your call, JohnW.

Back on topic?

JohnW


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 21:01

Dc



I am absolutely sure, and I am sure all his friends would agree that he has had no involvement with drugs whilst he was in the TRNC. For you to suggest otherwise when you know nothing about the man is despicable.



How about me? What are you suggesting? You think that I am wanted. Now you are being very silly.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 21:44

@ msg 40, JohnW: FIRST reply to my first question in msg 39. Or the rest is nonsense.

JohnW


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 21:54

DC



Go back over your posts. You will find them. Face to face with you - You really wouldn't like it so don't tempt me. You are a despicable mean minded unpleasant little bully of a man. I am not interest in you constant showing off about how many languages you can speak. Nobody else cares either. You no doubt talk tripe in all of them.



In short you, arrogant little twerp, you are of no consequence. You courageous little man, you attack Tony when he has gone. Don't worry though. One day you will be able to meet him and tell him what you think to his face.

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 22:27

DC

Wife away and back on the turps? Britain did what it had to do, rightly or wrongly but it never collaborated with the Nazi's as much as the Dutch Nation did!



Richard

DoctorW


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 22:39

Brinsley,



Britain would have had as many collborators a Holland, had it been invaded. There were lots of people in the UK who would have welcomed the nazis with open arms. Its not really any comparison to look at collaboration from a nation that was conquered and a nation that remained free.



Many so called collaborators in occupied countries were hated by their fellow citizens only to find after the war that these so called collaborators were actually putting themselves in grave danger from both the nazis and their own countrymen while gathering intelligence for the allies.



Also you may not like DC but I dont think that these forums should be used for personal abuse.

JohnW


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 22:43

DoctorW



Then you better tell the DutchTwerp that as he has spent years abusing people on here.

DoctorW


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 23:00

I dont think anyone should be swapping abuse on the forum, you, Hans or anyone else. I believe that moderators should if necessary delete the posts.

JohnW


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Message Posted:
09/08/2011 23:07

Quite right, all his posts should be removed at once.

denizen



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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 00:26

Quite right, all his posts should be removed at once.



would make the remaining posts rather difficult to understand

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 00:56

Follow-up of posts : @ msg 36: (...) Let us get something else straight. You have over the years tried to damage my business with references to Tony. (...)



▶ JohnW, I'm not impressed by all the words in your posts in this thread. PROVE the repeated line above or I must still call you a LIAR. Not nice? Right. But in my life the truth is the truth. Always. No way in between.

And in yours?

Shall we also discuss - with inside information - the way you "acquired" your "business" from another, now devastated, Brit?

I wouldn't do it, JohnW, if I were you.

philbailey


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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 02:03

Hans , soory I did not realise you were homosexualy



But was only asking a point of law FACT



Sorry I cannot live there Yes



but when I work I pay taxes



If I can't join them I BEAT them

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 02:16

@ msg 43, Brinsley: (...) Britain did what it had to do, rightly or wrongly but it never collaborated with the Nazi's as much as the Dutch Nation did! (...)



▶ Rich, you are right. After all these years it's time to acknowledge your great knowledge of Dutch history. So. The New Sealander Hitler was born in Amsterdam, Holland. Your father, Rich, became his SS-right hand, a real butcher. You, Rich, at the age of 12 betrayed Anne Frank. (I'm not amazed!). Your father was shot after the Second World War (and rightly so!). In 1944 you played a more than suspicious role in the Battle of Arnhem. In the end you escaped the firing squad because you were one week too young (too bad) to be shot.



Rich, what are you trying to prove, time and time again, to someone who was born in 1943?



It's really a bit sad and silly.

philbailey


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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 02:19

Is the forum you started that slow ?



at least prodger had a good 2 months



and that NCFP forum

philbailey


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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 02:23

So msg 7, please advise

can my homosexual friends live in Cyprus

openly within the law



they are male btw



they are British



or is it technically illegal

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 02:24

@ msg 50: Philsomething: (...) Sorry I cannot live there Yes (...)



▶ Never mind, friend Phil. We didn't miss you yesterday, today and we'll be fine tomorrow.



The rest of your typed characters are even more irrelevant.

philbailey


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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 02:28

Give your wife your best

philbailey


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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 02:30

Sorry no edit on here , msg 55

not complete

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 02:34

@ msg 55, Philsomething: Entertain your homosexual friends yourself, sissy. I'm afraid not too many board members are interested in your 'problem'.

P.S. My wife isn't interested in your good wishes.

philbailey


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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 02:35

Actually I take back my childish jibbs

and ask you a serious question



what is your stance on people buying exchange property

as a "historian"



on either side of your green line

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 02:55

Friend Phil: I do not think about this (your) question, when > you < ask it. Maybe, IF! I remember tomorrow morning, when I'm having strong Dutch Douwe Egberts coffee and a great breakfast on my terrace, in the early, copper coloured morning sun, when the chameleons and geckos slowly walk by, when the last owl gives a final cry and falls asleep - when my dogs celebrate the start of another lazy day... Maybe I remember your question. But I really can't guarantee it. Maybe I'll let you know later. However - and I have to repeat it: don't count on it.

bertieboss


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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 02:56

Why do the feeble minded always point the finger at perfectly decent people ( most immigrants ) when things get tough usually because of the mismanagement of ( usually ) right wing governments and the outrageous behaviour of a minority of the population.

The thugs and rioters in N Ireland are not immigrants !!

DC - I am disappointed in you -Have read many of your contributions with interest in the past - but then you are a boer !! Or is it bore ??

England is still a green and pleasant land full of decent people of all colours !!!

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 03:12

@ msg 60, bertieboss: (...) DC - I am disappointed in you -Have read many of your contributions with interest in the past - but then you are a boer !! Or is it bore ?? (...)



▶ Even my mother didn't like all I wrote in my life - but WHAT are you talking about?!

bertieboss


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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 03:24

I'm talking about an otherwise seemingly intelligent man coming out with absolute claptrap particularly with regard to the demise of europe and the british empire.

We are a "global society" now and need to rub along with all countries now that we are no longer able to exploit them.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 03:45

@ msg 62, bertieboer: I respect your opinion - although I don't agree.

I suggest we keep it civilised.

So.

Was this really necessary: "but then you are a boer !! Or is it bore ??"

If you think it was necessary we don't have anything to discuss anymore - from now on.

vincent1


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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 07:06

Cloggy,



What a sad little man you are.



Are you getting bored with your new forum already. You don't allow abuse there so you come back to C44 to stir things up again. Why do you bother ?



Sorry but you need to go back on the stronger tablets again !

simbas



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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 07:53

This thread is now closed.



Reason: Not specified . Take your personal squabbles off board .

Simbas