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DutchCrusader



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Well, this Quiz is probably only for the old hands on C44. Because the question is:

1 : When were Moderators introduced on C44 and why (remember the name of the member who sent swear words to this board every night..?)..?

2 : Who were the 6-8-10 or even more (!) Moderators in the beginning of the Moderating-system on C44..?

3 : If at the moment you can only mention two or maybe (!) three Moderators - what happened to the other Moderators..?



The judge in this Quiz will be Dave Gurr (aka AJ).



Sorry, no prizes - just for fun...



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Is AJ not a mod on another forum now ?



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@ msg 2: (...) Is AJ not a mod on another forum now ? (...)

▶ Yes, he is. Does that mean I can't appoint him judge in my Quiz-1..?!



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Hmm. Too difficult questions in post #1? OK. What about (in random order) Moderator Andy P? Is he still a Moderator? If not, does he still have access to part of private information you once provided..?!



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More about question 2 in post number 1: Where did Moderator/DJ Andy P. go..?! Did you ever read on this board that he quit his position here? I didn't, but I may have missed the news of course. He too had - though limited - access to private information. Still? Or?



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At least no access to phone numbers

unlike some forums



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Really amusing to see Hans is 'SO' concerned about the running of this board... there are days when there isn't even a post on his blog site - so it's hardly surprising ....



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@ msg 6: Right, Phil. Afraid that someone might call you..?! And there are no triple or more (and faked) identities, which are ignored on some forums. And no anonymous posters, cowardly hiding behind a keyboard while writing silly or nasty messages - unlike some forums.



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Msg7, that is not fair

AJ and the dutch bloke post alot



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Who was the first mod appointed.Just joining in the fun Hans,



Paul.



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message 6



Well said, giving out an email address to someone you do not know is one thing but a telephone number you must be kidding. You never know who these details may be passed on to for personal gain.



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@ msg 7, 6xm: Hi Mark! Be careful! Your favourite Moderator, who lifted your life time ban a couple of months ago - without checking the opinion of other Moderators - is not very active lately... Don't try your luck...



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Msg11, exactly

mailing lists are good money in the uk

(or text/ personal details)



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@ msg 11, GinaC: Ah! Welcome to this thread. But in reply to your post: "Ill doers are ill deemers (Evil doers are evil dreaders)".

P.S. How are you doing with your photo report about the "Free loaders in TRNC"..?!



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Was U.K. Turk a mod Hans,



Paul.



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@ msg 13, Philbailey: (...) Msg11, exactly mailing lists are good money in the uk (or text/ personal details) (...)



▶ Can you mail me the contact details of potential buyers?

▶ And YOU on a mailing list - good money..?! Come on, Phil.



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@ msg 15, newlad: "UKTurk".

▶ Right! One point for Paul, if Judge AJ agrees... Ever heard of UKTurk again? Still a Moderator? Still having access to private details? Or?



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message 14



DC my post was purely generic and generally sound advice when online, seems you took it as some form of personal attack on you so you retaliate such is the nature of the beast.



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If I remember correctly, there were moderators on here before actually being declared as such, i.e. they did not have the word "moderator" showing in their profile or on the little blue box that comes up on the left. I remember, from the earlier days, AndyP, Simbas, Lemtich, No1 Doyen, Harold., etc. (most of whom are still here). I know there were others, but I cannot recall them to mind at the moment. I think UK Turk was a "helpful member"?



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I wonder if AJ still has access to all our details ?



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Jeannie,



"I think U.K.Turk was a helpful member"Maybe at some point.But i think he went on to become a mod.As did Elko,



Paul.



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This is well confusing,are you trying to say something about andy p?are you saying hes using other ids now?.you said at the beginning there were 6-8-10 mods,now only about 3,so what about aj?does he still hold our info? & what info would that be? our e mail addresses



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@ msg 18, GinaC: (...) such is the nature of the beast. (...).

▶ Dear Mrs GinaC. let's put this straight. In another thread you offered/threatened to make pictures of "freeloaders in Alsancak" and publish the pics. At the same time you don't give ("protect") your email address or phone number - such is the nature of the beast indeed!

Back on topic, please.



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@ msg 22, vonny: Very good questions! But who knows the answers..?!



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Thanks Paul; the old memory is not what it was, you understand



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@ msg 19, Jeannie: (...) Lemtich (...)

▶ Right! One point for you too, i.e. if Judge AJ agrees. Ever heard of Lemtich again? Still a Moderator? Still having access to private details? Or?



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Hans - I think Lemtich posted on here a short while ago and stated that he had no idea as to why his "Moderator status" had been removed?



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message 23



Why do you want my email address and telephone number Hans, do you really want to go down this path ??



If you go back through many of your 9000 plus posts you have a trend to request such details with extreme frequency in the past for your MCF, blood donors database, graphic downloads e.g. send me your email address for a password get my drift etc etc.



You may be an honest man but I do not know you personally.



As I have said my post was generic and not personal, if you want to make it personal then the ethos of non abuse and personal attacks you profess to abhor will be shattered.



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Jeannie,



Get some of Dr Brodericks recipe down you girl,



Paul.



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Turtle

'I wonder if AJ still has access to all our details ?'



Yep I know your age, I know your height, I know your weight, I know your sexual preferences, I know when you were born, I know what schools you went to, I know all about your parents etc.



Jeez what other details do you think I have about you?

I have had no access to IP addresses all I have had access to is e-mail addresses so that I could communicate with members that may have had or were causing problems and some of those were false addresses. The only e-mail addresses that I have are of people that have communicated with me by e-mail. What other information do you think I am privy to?



DutchCrusader



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@ msg 27, Jeannie: (...) Hans - I think Lemtich posted on here a short while ago and stated that he had no idea as to why his "Moderator status" had been removed? (...)

▶ Jeannie, if one is not moderating for a long time why would one be called a "Moderator"..?



@ msg 28, GinaC: (...) If you go back through many of your 9000 plus posts you have a trend to request such details with extreme frequency in the past for your MCF, blood donors database, graphic downloads e.g. send me your email address for a password get my drift etc etc. (...)

▶ There is a very simple reason: I offered many free graphics on this board but at a certain moment I wasn't willing anymore to have my work downloaded for free by anonymous people - who might be nasty posters the next day. This is all, it's the truth.



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So who had access to the phone numbers requested to join

the other forum?

As for mailing lists buy a copy of exchange and mart

(uk classified ad magazine)

loads of people selling/buying



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Well in answer to your post AJ perhaps you need to enlighten Hans about what info ex mods hold and maybe hint to him to stop shit stirring.





AJ i was not being confrontational with you just pointing out Hans was stirring things up about ex mods perhaps he "forgot" you were one



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message 31



"There is a very simple reason: I offered many free graphics on this board but at a certain moment I wasn't willing anymore to have my work downloaded for free by anonymous people - who might be nasty posters the next day. This is all, it's the truth."



And until proven wrong I have to take that and have to accept your word on that. Pity you chose to get your hackles up again.



My point is and remains the same as I posted previously, internet users should guard their personal details on forums such as this. I do not want to be bombarded with vile emails and drunken early morning phone calls.



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DC I was going to request permission to join your forum but noone ever posts on there except you and AJ, a touch boring for me.



Turtle from what I have read, the Dutch one has always been a bloody nuisance here



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Msg 35, but tobe fair

no jokes or bickering

as promised



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@ msg 35, nicola: (...) DC I was going to request permission to join your forum but noone ever posts on there except you and AJ, a touch boring for me. (...)

▶ Again (sigh): it's not "my" forum. Nicola, don't bother to get bored - don't join. We don't collect members nor Sun opinions there. Signed: The Bl**dy Nuisance.



@ msg 36, Philbailey: (...) but to be fair no jokes or bickering as promised (...)

▶ Indeed, as promised.



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Turtle

I am not and never will be responsible for any other persons postings on this board. I am responsible for my own postings on any board and as such I will take the flack and respond to any replies that my postings elicit. I will reiterate to everyone including the 'joker' philbailey that I have had no access to any other information on this board apart from what I have already stated plus I do not have access to members phone numbers on cyprusnow.info as they are all stored in a secure database.

A lot of you really do need to lighten up.

AJ



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So then Hans I think that answers your question about other current or ex mods.



Subject sorted eh



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so why would andy p or any other ex mod have the info if its all stored in a secure database?that is why im confused about what this threads all about,does anyone else understand it?or is it just me having a dizzy night tonight,



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Well said Msg 38,

"All the phone numbers are stored"

that is all anyone wanted to know



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A secured database !!!!!



Perhaps the NHS, MOD, GCHQ, UK Banks could borrow such a system, I thought Hans said the numbers would be deleted after accounts were verified ???



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Phil the Joker



Re read my posting as you are another person that likes to distort the facts.



'as they are all stored in a secure database.'



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I was right







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@ msg 37, GinaC: You're right - although too suspicious, I think - after verifying the identity of a new member via a text message the mob phone number should automatically be deleted from the database. I will contact Dave Gurr and Erol Ziya (members of the Cyprus Now team) asap to propose



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/70332.asp



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@ msg 44, GinaC*: And your point is..?!

* Sorry, we forgot to inform you what we did.



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My point is simple, do you hold this personal information or not and do those that supplied this information know about it?



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The problem is that one owner is saying

"they will be deleted "

the other owner saying

"they are stored"



but you still have access to all members phone numbers ?



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I have an idea

AJ access d/c's number



d/c access aj's number

and call each other to decide

who is lying

problem solved



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philbailey,



We have joked in the past but this is no laughing matter, has Cyprus Now maintained a database secure or not of applicants telephone numbers that were supplied purely to validate membership ??



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"It's, Oh, So Quiet". said Bjork



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Who was Orange Kazzie? was she on this board about the same time as UKturk?



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Dutch

The poster who brought his forum to an all time low was Mackaozy.

Mods. Andy P, AJ, Simbas, UK Turk, Lemtich ?????



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@msg 12 Dutch Crusader....



''@ msg 7, 6xm: Hi Mark! Be careful! Your favourite Moderator, who lifted your life time ban a couple of months ago - without checking the opinion of other Moderators - is not very active lately... Don't try your luck... ''





What does 'don't try your luck' mean..... just a curious question...





DD



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Mods. originally and to date were/are

Izzet

AJ

Simbas

Lemtich

Notsoboredhw

McSteviet

UKturk

Puppylover

Harold

No 1 Doyen

AndyP

Bradus - was asked



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Just reading through all the posts and some folk on here have the cheek to say my friend David makes problems on this board,ive never heard such poppy cock in all my life. He has not posted for 2 weeks and the usual suspects are still bang at it !!



Get rid of 1 of the Ms for a start and im sure this board will start to purrr again ;)



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Forgot our Ismet...Sorry Ismet



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re53

DD



I've just come back and wondered what that meant, too ? ! Hans, despite all that has happened, recently, *I* still like you ... you need to chill a little ..





Well, at this rate the dynamic duo will have had more posts on one thread here than on their blog in a week...



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Seems strange actually that 1 of the Ms and DC where best bussum buddies for along time and now it seems DC has seen 1 of the Ms for what he really is and dropped kicked him over the garden fence ;)



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Re: Msg 57,



"Hans, despite all that has happened, recently, *I* still like you ... "



Sounds like Love Story.



Torna a Surriento!





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Dalart,



What a memory you have,



Paul.



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzg8DTzh4yk



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A zero... Hans has always known me for what I am.. he just overlooked those inverted commas... and every so often it 'irritates' him ....



He actually a nice chap .... I just wish he wouldn't keep tell us "he's leaving" when we all know he never will ;)



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"Hans, despite all that has happened, recently, *I* still like you ... "







Sounds like Love Story.







Torna a Surriento!



awww i love a soppy ending



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dalartokat,

nearly right. I was never actually asked, I simply tuned in one day and saw the word moderator at the side of my name. This was in the early days when I was optimistic about the TRNC and lacked the experience and knowledge I now have. I did have a go at being a moderator for a few weeks, but could not pretend that all was rosy in Cyprus and if I said anything negative people tended to come down on me like a ton of bricks. After a few posters reminded me of the forum rules and showed their disgust in some of my more negative posts, I quickly came to the decision it was not in the forums interest to remain a moderator and requested removal of my moderator status. I found being a moderator stifled my ability to discuss matters honestly, based on my own knowledge and experiences of Cyprus.



I'm sure many would wish I had remained a moderator and stifled my opinions!



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It's all coming back to me now



Bradus, I remember your (unfortunately) short-lived sojourn as a Mod. I now also remember Puppylover (Judy) being a mod (thanks, Sylvie). I appreciate that the remaining moderators do a very unenviable 'job' on here, but, as you've said, Bradus, some of us can't "run with the hare and hunt with the hounds".



Thank you for the info.



Jean



PS I always thought Keith Caley would have made a great forum admin person.



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Jean,

I absolutely agree regarding Keith Caley who always seemed to me to have a very balanced approach. It's not an easy job being a moderator and I have much respect for those that fulfill this role.



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Newlad, sadly its not from memory, the info is available on 44 in the search thread above.



Bradus, well you must have been the sunshine of Izzets eyes, as he, at the time, was looking for people who were positive about North Cyprus and I see nothing wrong in changing your opinion on North Cyprus so long as the information is correct and you have the experiences to prove it. Its clear over time that you have the support of many on the board about your experiences so maybe a change of heart if a vacancy comes up?



I personally think that AJ should have had more time spent on him to convince him to stay as a Moderator and purely from the point of view, it seemed to me, that from behind the scenes more work seemed to be done by him(my opinion), to prevent more chaos erupting on the board, but did agree with some people in the past, when comments were made, that maybe his style of moderating needed toning down at times. A difficult juggling act for everyone concerned.



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Hi Dalartokat



When it comes to AJ - much of what you say is true.. however, a lot of chaos was caused by his biased style in relation to what he 'clams' was 'crusades' against 'TRNC' businesses.



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re msg 12



Good morning Hans,



I note you've replied to lots of folk, but are strangely 'Trappist' re requests for you to expand on this bizarre comment..



>>@ msg 7, 6xm: Hi Mark! Be careful! Your favourite Moderator, who lifted your life time ban a couple of months ago - without checking the opinion of other Moderators - is not very active lately... Don't try your luck...<<



I honestly, have no clue as to who you are referring to and I've not been banned since the departure of AJ.



Now, I appreciate some of my pro-settlement / sorting out property claims - along the lines of the Annan Plan / ECHR rulings - viewpoint don't make me 'popular' with your head in the sand mentality, but it hardly ingratiates me with a lot of GCs either ;)







You forgot to mention that my life bans were not exactly 'unanimous', either .....



The GREAT thing about THIS board is that I am 'tolerated' ... that a divergent viewpoint is 'appreciated'...



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1 of the Ms



Is your favourite song : lets do the twist?



Because you always try to divert everything away from yourself and twist things around to try and make it look like others are at fault.



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Dear 'a zero'



1/ I ALWAYS post as myself - no posting when I'm actually dining at a restaurant - and no where near a smart phone or pc...



2/ Those that 'accuse' me of 'twisting' or 'deflection' are so VERY often the VERY posters so afflicted... and they search *so* hard to find a 'complaint' - ( 'one' in 10 years of trading ) and that was one from a non existent 'client' ..



It's always amusing to be 'tried' by someone so unfamiliar with compliance to that which is legal or even civil...



3/ In the meantime, lets not 'deflect' from awaiting a response from my mate, Hans....



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@ GinaC: Although I wonder why you (a non-member there) seem to worry about the privacy on another message board: after consulting our technical wizard Erolz I can guarantee you that no mobile phone numbers will be kept in any database. EXCEPT the nick names and mobile phone numbers provided by potential members who didn't reply (cheating intentionally or giving the wrong number unintentionally) to the text sms I send them.



@ 6xM: I'm not your "mate", although I have nothing against you - except your continued ridiculing the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, which I call TRNC and you, following the true Greek Cypriot fashion, call 'trnc'. We both know from the past what you mean by writing 'trnc' and I do not accept your attitude. Don't wait for any other response from me.



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Dear Hans,

re msg 72



This IS an interesting development in our 'relationship'... ! Could you please explain how my referring to 'TRNC' is 'GC' style.. as they refer to the "pseudo state" on State tv and other media...



As already pointed out to you - many times- the use of 'TRNC' is that used by your very own govt, and all EU states, and the ECHR, and..... it's the result of a long standing non-recognition of a declaration of independence by the UN - taken at a vote of the UN security council.



You've *always* known this and were quite happy to demonstrate the Slingbox system - knowing this.. indeed you've been very helpful. As I was dismissive of it's possibilities.



Your regression to my status ( again ) being some sort of 'traitor' remains a surprise to me... bewildering, even.. So you'll 'forgive' me if I'm persistent in wondering if you've been listening to someone who I never met - as opposed to folk who have !























Are THEY being 'disrespectful'



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( cont) Sorry, the >>Are THEY being 'disrespectful'<< was not meant to be posted - but it referred to those organisations who respect that TCs should have a say in the running of CY, but don't agree with the way it evolved..



Any way, it is noted you have dropped a statement re a mod, and don't feel the need to expand on it .. I expect it was fatuous and you know it..



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Just to be absolutely clear on the removal of submitted mobile phone numbers on the cyprusnow.info forum



The removal of this information from the database that drives the forum is not automatic. That is, the information is not automaticaly removed as soon as a new member is made active. I have written an SQL query that replaces the submitted number with the text 'removed' but I have to run this query manually and periodically. So in between the time a membership is made active and me running this query submitted mobile phone numbers are held in the database that drives the forum and accessable to admins (and only admins) for that time. Once the query is run any membership that is active will have their submitted mobile phone number replaced with the text 'removed'.



I have run the query a short time ago, so currently no active members submitted mobile phone number is stored in the forum's database.



[cont]



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The people who run the machine from which the forum is hosted, as a matter of course, created backups of the entire server including the databases on this server. These are not stored 'online'. However these backups will contain historic versions of the database that drives the cyprusnow.info forum that may still have submitted members mobile phone numbers in them. How long these backups are held I would have to enquire with the hosting company. They are not accessable to anyone outside the hoster, who are a reputable hosting company that hosts servers for the likes of the BBC and Santander bank. I am the only person who could request access ot restoration of these backup copis of the forum database.



Sorry if the above is all a bit 'anal' but I just want to be absolutely clear as to when and how submitted mobile phone numbers to the cyprusnow.info ofrum are removed fromthe live database and where else they may be stored.



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One final point and I will shut up about this. Members themselves, once made active can change or remove their submitted mobile phone number themselves as they like. The above procedures are in addition to this facility for user themselves to remove the information should they wish, that has always existed on the forum.



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Hi ErolZ



kind you of you update us.



As you know this server being in the UK, you should realise that asking for phone numbers probably makes YOU liable under the UK's Data Protection Acts



http://www.ico.gov.uk



Just to protect your a**



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Msg 71



1 of the Ms,



2/ Those that 'accuse' me of 'twisting' or 'deflection' are so VERY often the VERY posters so afflicted... and they search *so* hard to find a 'complaint' - ( 'one' in 10 years of trading ) and that was one from a non existent 'client' .. ..............

She was alive and kicking and you was doing a body swerve ,people only have to look at my profile here in the forum and they can clikk on the link to see what the poor lady had to say about you in post 4 or 5 ,it is there for all to see in my profile ,i cannot believe she would be telling a lie.



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Dear A zero,



funny thing is that a true 'complainer' would respond to a contact from said 'bad' company..



But don't let the facts get in the way of your oft repeated fib....



In fact.. how could anyone trust someone who repeats nonsense about members - ErolZ, myself as 'fact' ...?



How can anyone trust a member who CLEARLY can't remember who they are supposed to BE when posting and 'forget's that that poster couldn't possibly have posted at the time ..?



.... just a thought ....



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msg 78



Thanks for the heads up. I am very aware of the Data Protection Act in the UK and have in the past been involved with setting up organisations that have registered under the requirments of this act.



As far as the cyprusnow.info forum goes I believe is would be exempt from the requirment to register as I understand the law and having done the online 'do you need to register' survey. Basically for small not for profit orgnaisation where the data is held solely to maintain and administer membership you are exempt from having to register under the DPA.



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Post 72 from Hans, You are so right.I spoke to Mark some time ago i mentioned TRNC, his reply; Wheres that,no such place.



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ACTUALLY, Rigsby, you are now fibbing, too - you neglected to add the laughter between us at the ( then) shared joke...



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Hi ErolZ,



You may need to check, again..



if you ask for a phone number - as opposed to a member registering and email - which is used as part of an automated login process, I believe you DO 'qualify'



The added dimension is that something that will 'test' Hans and AJ.... If you are Cyprus based your obligations are less 'intense' that if you rate as being outside of the EU... !! ;)



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Mark,Once again you manage to turn everything around,Heres a tip; FORGET CYPRUS its not been good for you.



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message 80, 1 of the Ms



look at message 85



but i would never let you turn everything around on me or even David , and you know David will never allow you to do this ,we are at last showing some of the people who did give you the benefit of the doubt,slowly they really are starting to see you for what you are , and not before time either.



It really is good that the tide is slowly turning on you.



There is no money in TRNC or Cyprus for you,none left to share with you,go and try and find other pastures,because your having non here , you could never ever in your wildest dreams live in the north of the island , and you know that is 100% true ;)



you cannot live in the roc either , you burnt all your bridges me cock sparrow



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msg 84



It is not a matter of if you take phone numbers you must register. The exemption for small non profit orgnaisations is about if the personal information you collect is necessary for 'processing' membership, which in the case of cyprusnow.info and mobile phone number it is. As long as it is necessary for processing membership, and is only taken / held for members or prospecitve members and only used for the prupose of 'processing' said membership and not anything else, then the exmptiohn applies.



That is my understanding.



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Hello Rigsby,



re 85



I simply relayed the truthful version of events... and wonder why you persist in making something jovial 'sinister' ...



YOU sent me YOUR home phone number and invited me to call.... We had a friendly chat about CY, the Forest, N.Devon and thing satellite.... The conversation lasted 17 mins .. hardly the sort of time one has with someone who one doesn't want to have...



It was followed by three more over the next two months... you called ME twice. They weren't short conversations, either.



If you are now going to 'fabricate' events, kindly remember that I'm the comms expert and I have logs for calls in and out as I have a voIP ( phone) billing platform.



It is clear that you 'objected' to something I have truthfully pointed out re another Sat installer, who is MUCH more reliable and would admit his past time keeping wasn't brilliant...



Sounds more like Cyprus hasn't been 'good' for you, Clive ..



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re 84 ErolZ



It IS a matter is your take folks contact details and they are stored remotely - we should continue this off board...



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message 88.



1 of the Ms



Do you really know anything about the word Truthful ?



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Have you been at the bottle tonight?



your post makes no sense !



Not that many of them normally do ,but this one is ,well , ah never mind ,maybe even you do not know !



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No farication on my part,yes i did call you,not sure it was that many times however would you like me to let everyone know the reasons you called me? TRNC was o/k for me.8 interesting years there.I have watched your posts over the years even on the old msn boards.



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Yes please



We would love to know why he was calling you ;)



He still is not out the closet !!



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0maintenance / faild bank robber david



shoulr we feel sad or pity you ? your obsession/ delusionary campaign against the many ms and his dish will prove fruitless just as you attempts at relocating the banks deposits did . Alas it is all some one elses fault I suppose.



Pedo / self harmer / delusionary/ what ever I urge all 44 members to pity you rather than condemn you.



you seem to have gender issues with amanda / david / your pic on the failded abusive progers forum http://guidebooknorthcyprus.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=74;type=avatar



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re 92 Rigsby



>>No farication on my part,yes i did call you,not sure it was that many times<<



I WELL remember, but now I'm going to wait and see what you tell board members... :(





>> however would you like me to let everyone know the reasons you called me? TRNC was o/k for me.8 interesting years there.I have watched your posts over the years even on the old msn boards.<<



As I said, feel free..



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your surname suits your obsession with 1 of the Ms



Failed ,you should take that up with the person your directing your comments at ,did he fail or is it just gossip ,maybe he had success many times ,all good things come to an end ;) its a numbers game ,you win 9 or 10 and you lose 1.tuff at the top of ones game ;)



Please try to not get to personal



Cyprus is a small island



She is a pretty girl in the link you posted ;)



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