STRAY DOGS / 13-month-old boy dies

Navek



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Message Posted:
20/11/2008 23:49

From BBC, see link below.



Funeral of dog attack baby held



Archie-Lee was snatched from the arms of a seven-year-old girl



as she carried him to the back door of the house in Chald Lane, Wakefield.



The animal was said to be used to children



and the attack was described as completely unexpected.



Google UK BBC NEWS | England | Bradford | Funeral of dog attack baby held



This was a well treated pet!





Stray dogs anywhere are a potential problem,

especially if they are hungry or unwell, or both.



Apart from the possibility of causing road accidents,

and the problems the shepherds must have,

Just trying to make a living.



Remember, not many fences in this part of the world,

to keep animals in and stray dogs out.



I've seen packs of these dogs running around

near the Power Station.



Not a safe place for your car to break down.

Navek



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Posts: 2656

Message Posted:
20/11/2008 23:51

With the possibility of rabies in this part of the world......



"The only way to act once you have been bitten by an animal

you suspect might be infected is to get to hospital immediately.

A series of vaccinations can prevent the disease getting

hold of your nervous system.

But once it has appeared in full-blown form,

there is little hope for cure.

Apart from a few islands – Hawaii and the UK

are notable – rabies is common throughout the world.

So, be very aware of the risk".



From...........



Google UK II :: Healthcare - Global disease hotspots

Navek



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Message Posted:
20/11/2008 23:52

There have been too many incidents in the past,

to say "It won't happen to me"

I've got a scar from an attack by someone's

"pet" dog when I was a kid.



On a hot day, in the summers you will experience here,

who knows what a tired, ill or hungry dog will do if it's hungry.

These animals are potential killers.



Also had a Jack Russell, it had NO FEAR.

Small dogs are just as vicious as large ones.

Don't think if it's wagging it's tail,

it only wants to lick you.



I know there are a lot of dog lovers out there,

this is not Britain, the climate here is completely different,



We may come from an animal loving nation,

But we must all face facts.





Dogs and heat are not a good mixture.

All stray dogs must be taken out of circulation.



Think of the possible consequences



Don't have a BABIES blood on your hands,



Navek

NoNowt


Joined: 09/10/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
21/11/2008 00:16

I see that this is quite an old story but may be of relevance now with the dog problems being discussed on the board right now.



What amazes/amuses me is that in Britain we hear of a handful of such incidents almost annually and the breed of dogs involved in each case (in this Rotweiler) I can guess it within 4-5 goes every time and yet the authorities continue to say that these breeds are still safe. To my mind breeds such as these should be forbidden to be owned by the general public.

Nemika



Joined: 05/04/2008
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
21/11/2008 00:24

Hi Nevek



Thank you for your new post this is exactly what im talking about this is the only thing i hate about north cyprus where ever i go there are packs of dogs and one time when i was on my hubbys moped going to our local shop i was chased by a rotwiler i was terrified to say the least i nearly fell off and just missed a car. heaven knows what that dog would have done if it had caught me. its just so dangerous. i think all stray dogs should be put down for our own sake and theirs.

lesleyd



Joined: 05/06/2007
Posts: 265

Message Posted:
21/11/2008 02:05

Yes look what this dog did to the child and also look what humans did to baby P you just can't judge all dogs or humans for that matter the same.

w26kay



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Posts: 479

Message Posted:
21/11/2008 02:06

gppd point lesleyd

w26kay



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Message Posted:
21/11/2008 02:15

Blimey just found my glasses. Sorry everyone. Good point Lesleyd.



The perpetrators of Baby P's injuries and subsequent death were systematic. premeditated, deliberate, and intentional. So shall we erradicate the whole of the human race in the event that we should harm a child?



A dog attack is random and rare.



ONE CHILD EVERY WEEK DIES IN THE UK because of neglect and abuse at the hands of it's carers. Please, please.....Lobby your MP to tighten up Child Protection policies and laws.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
21/11/2008 10:43

Of course all ppl and dogs are not the same, however ppl are responsible for their actions ..dogs are not, they are the product of their owner or situation they find themselves in....

Navek



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Message Posted:
21/11/2008 12:26

Lets not stray from the point,



STRAY DOGS!!!!!

viking


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Message Posted:
21/11/2008 12:39

Being a dog owner and lover all my life, can I just say no dog is born bad, just as no child is born bad, but if they are not taught how to behave in a social world from an early age then they will be unrully and out of control, just like the yob culture we have here in the UK, its up to the dog owner to take resposiblity right from the start, if they don't do, don't own a dog



Viking

KickingK


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Message Posted:
21/11/2008 13:16

Viking



Well said!

Groucho



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Message Posted:
21/11/2008 13:27

Viking what about dogs born and living in the wild... plenty of those here... they don't have trainers.....or any other footwear... ;¬)

viking


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Message Posted:
21/11/2008 16:32

like your humour groucho

Viking

tinker


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Message Posted:
21/11/2008 22:58

Viking Wrote

Being a dog owner and lover all my life, can I just say no dog is born bad, just as no child is born bad, but if they are not taught how to behave in a social world from an early age then they will be unrully and out of control, just like the yob culture we have here in the UK, its up to the dog owner to take resposiblity right from the start, if they don't do, don't own a dog

Viking, as I have said before you are coming to a different country buying property then expecting everything else to be like the uK.



mackaozy read the post Viking lives in the UK ... Just what is your problem ... Most of the expats I know came here to enjoy their retirement... Do not whinge ... The whingers are the "swallows" that bought here hoping to make a quick buck... Wouldn't change places with you for all the "tea in China"...

Don't be a pillock all your life ... Take a day off now & then..

Navek



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Message Posted:
22/11/2008 10:18

Hi BigSteve.



"Attacks from dogs are random"



unfortunately yes.



"Not everyone with a dog should be persecuted because of one incident."



I agree.



My original post was never meant to focus on any dog owners.





"What is you solution to the problem of stray dog"





Sorry, not being authoritative on the subject of stray dogs,



it's not my place to speculate.



The subject was brought it to light, for others.



This is a forum for debate.



Maybe someone reading the posts



could submit a new post with a possible solution,



which may be read by someone in authority,



and action taken, who knows.



Until the laws of the land are changed,



the problem of straw dogs will be with us.



Not a definitive answer, I know, but the best I can give.





Navek

InTheDogHouse



Joined: 15/11/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
22/11/2008 12:14

Fact.....TRNC has a lot of stray dogs.



Fact.....People with little knowledge or experience with dogs 'could' find themselves in trouble.



Dogs are dogs. The world over. They all possess a wolf like mentality. That doesn't mean every dog is a wolf and will eat you. It just means that for all man has domesticated dog, he hasn't changed a lot about the way a dog thinks and reacts.



Dogs have drives such as 'prey' drive which is why a dog chases a ball (or a person on a bike). They have a hierarchy which enables them to live together as a pack. The pack structure is the same in the wild as it is in a family home. A responsible dog owner is likely to know this as they would know the difficulties in not being the 'alpha' of the house.



Non dog owners would be wise to do a bit of research into dog behaviour so that they can safely escape a potentially dangerous situation.

Groucho



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Message Posted:
22/11/2008 12:42

Carry a few doggie snacks in your pocket (macka your handbag) and you'll have an instant answer...



Something to eat when you are starving too ;¬)



Macka, probably better than your usual diet too.. those snack-pots are not good for your mental health it would seem...

fire starter


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Message Posted:
22/11/2008 22:46

stray dogs are the fault of the goverment.

they need to use the law.

they need to take action against owners who let their dogs run riot.A fine should do the trick.

responsible owners train their dogs, walk them on wheelie leads and keep them under control at all times.

nav, thinks that dogs and heat are a bad combination.

yes they can be, but my dogs happily sunbathe and retreat when they get too hot.

they don't get agressive in any way, more sleepy if anything.

something that upset me this year was someone telling me that they smuggled a dog in from turkey.

customs need to get a grip otherwise rabies will be a serious threat!

Navek



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Message Posted:
23/11/2008 02:40

Hi fire starter,



"nav, thinks that dogs and heat are a bad combination."



OK that was more to do with pet dogs left in cars,



Got carried away a bit there, Sorry



Post was aimed at stray/wild dogs, ONLY!!!



I have NO problem with pet, show, working or hunting dogs at all,



or the odd dog running about with a home to go to.



I know this is a sensitive subject to many.



Only a legal decision is capable of removing this growing problem.



As I said earlier,



This is a forum for debate.



We can only put forward our opinions.



Some may be stronger than others,



But, that's life.....