Taking pets to UK advice please

Writergirl


Joined: 04/10/2011
Posts: 8

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 14:00

Can anyone give me the details, lot of different stories, just wondered if anyone knew the facts.



Thanks

Geomin


Joined: 25/01/2011
Posts: 76

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 14:37

Try contacting Kyrenia Animal Rescue (kar@kyreniaanimalrescue.org) who will be able to help, or point you in the right direction I am sure.

shel56


Joined: 10/09/2008
Posts: 438

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 15:07

As message 2 KAR know what youy need to do. New rules come into affect next year and you will need to have had your pet chipped first then innoculated and blood tested for rabies get started immediately if you are planning returning early next year there are 2 injections 2 weeks apart then you have to wait a month to do the blood test which is sent to Scotland. Pets have to wait 3 months after they have the blood work paperwork to say they are protected.



Ferdez at Petcross can give you all the advice you need as well. She is really good. I prepared my cat last year in the event we were to leave quickly.



It is good to know you are going to take your pet with you. Hope this helps.

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 16:46

There is no approved route from the TRNC to the UK regardless of the rules changing on Jan !st.

If you want some help & advice go to http://www.topdoghotel.com and use the contact us page.

nicola


Joined: 06/09/2011
Posts: 246

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 17:24

Blade why do you need an approved route, as I see it if your pet has all the correct paperwork, entry to the UK from anywhere in the world is fine.

foxylad


Joined: 01/11/2011
Posts: 56

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 17:30

Message 5 says why do you need an approved route because defra say you do . END OF thats the rule.

iceman


Joined: 15/08/2008
Posts: 724

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 17:44

The only way to take a pet from Cyprus to UK is through Larnaca...not possible from Ercan!!

The dogs to travel to UK must have a pet passport,two rabies injections and rabies serology test done in one of the two Defra approved UK labs.

The rabies injections are to be done with 4 weeks interval and a further 4 weeks should pass for the blood samples to be taken...so 12 weeks must pass from the time of the first injection to the day sample is taken.

The samples must be taken & sent to the lab by an EU approved vet for the results to be accepted by UK authorities.

iceman


Joined: 15/08/2008
Posts: 724

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 17:47

forgot to mention..the dog must be microchipped before any of the above is done..

nicola


Joined: 06/09/2011
Posts: 246

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 18:14

msg 6, if you can fly your pet out of Ercan then it can fly from anywhere in the world back to the UK as long as all documentation, as Iceman has said, is in place! It isn't rocket science.

iceman


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Posts: 724

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 18:29

"if you can fly your pet out of Ercan then it can fly from anywhere in the world back to the UK as long as all documentation is in place"



WRONG!!

In order for the dog to be accepted to UK with the correct paperwork, it must arrive from an EU country..North Cyprus & Turkey is classified as third world country by defra and 6 month quarantine rule applies to animals arriving from them even if the paperwork is correct.

nicola


Joined: 06/09/2011
Posts: 246

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 18:56

Iceman, I am right, the rules have changed, if your dog has all the correct documentation, your pet can fly from anywhere in the world.



No quarantine as long as your animal has the full pet passport.

nicola


Joined: 06/09/2011
Posts: 246

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 18:57

This is only after 1st January 2012, if you take your dog back before then, quarantine will apply.

artistabroad


Joined: 06/07/2009
Posts: 104

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 19:17

Try http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-pets/pets/travel/ for details of the rule changes that apply from 1st January. However the pet has to go by an approved route/carrier and none of them so far deal with N Cyprus. Also as far as I know pets can come from the south into the north with the correct paperwork, but not vice versa. It must be possible to get your pet to the UK without quarantine though as some pets are booked to go after the 1st - KAR are probably best placed to advise - or topdog hotel who have offered advice in post 4.

flutterby


Joined: 11/01/2008
Posts: 214

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 19:30

I, too, had thought that after 1 January 2012, dogs could be brought into the UK from an unlisted country without having to do 6 months' quarantine as long as they had followed the correct procedure, ie, microchipping, rabies seriology, etc. However, on reading more closely and eventually on contacting DEFRA directly, I have been informed :-



*Entry into the UK must be via an authorised carrier on a PETS approved route (please see the web-link below):-

http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-pets/pets/travel/pets/routes/



Unfortunately, while the South is a PETS approved route, the North of the buffer zone is not on the approved route list!

flutterby


Joined: 11/01/2008
Posts: 214

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 19:35

Iceman, the animal does not have to arrive from an EU Country after 1 Jan, 2012, but the Country must be on the approved list, United States is on approved list and a few other non EU countries. I was informed the following by DEFRA:-



Please note that the classification of a country as ‘rabies free’ is not a pre-requisite for a country to become PETS compliant; precisely because a zero per cent chance that rabies will not occur in any one country, or be exported from that country, can never be guaranteed. In order to become a PETS qualified country, the veterinary authorities in the country concerned must show that the country meets the conditions laid out in article ten of EU regulation EC 998/2003, a link to which I include below.



http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2003:146:0001:01:EN:HTML

Tango1


Joined: 19/02/2011
Posts: 1151

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 19:47

Please everyone get the facts correct otherwise you are going to misinform people and leave them disappointed. Margaret Ray or Anne Bosley are the people to speak to at KAR. Just because the new rules come into force next year, it's still not as simple as you would imagine.

iceman


Joined: 15/08/2008
Posts: 724

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 20:11

If i was thinking of shipping a dog to UK, i would contact DEFRA directly and get the facts from them.

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 21:07

For those that want to know the method I have just used...First contact KAR, they will advise you to obtain microchip and pet passports if you havent already got them. Arrange export licence and other paperwork that is needed.



In my case the dogs already already had them, flew to france, went to local vet for blood test etc. Stay for 24 hours in france then legally take them to uk ...no quarantine.



You must already have the dogs pet passports, and they need as Iceman has stated previously ,rabies serology test completed.

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
21/11/2011 21:08

For those that are interested I used Turkish Airline Ercan to Paris CDG.

nicola


Joined: 06/09/2011
Posts: 246

Message Posted:
22/11/2011 00:23

Exactly, Daveboy, it is straightforward as long as your pet has all the correct tests and a passport.

artistabroad


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Posts: 104

Message Posted:
22/11/2011 10:03

Message 20 - there is no direct DEFRA approved route from Ercan to the UK. You can go to Paris - or I assume another EU country and then use a DEFRA approved route from that country. I think that's the point that many are trying to make!

nicola


Joined: 06/09/2011
Posts: 246

Message Posted:
22/11/2011 10:29

msg21 I know, but to suggest there is no route is wrong, there is.

iceman


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Posts: 724

Message Posted:
22/11/2011 11:58

Seems like there are EU countries that are not as strict as UK when it comes to live animal imports.

If one can fly to one of these EU countries with the correct documentation,from there on to UK is less of a problem..(providing you do not mention the journey started in north Cyprus)

But then again..how does one get away at the entry to UK with documents not prepared by a vet from the EU country the flight arrived from?



@daveboy

Was the vet who prepared your documents from the south?

artistabroad


Joined: 06/07/2009
Posts: 104

Message Posted:
22/11/2011 12:25

Iceman - my understanding is that the changes to the rules are to bring all EU countries in line. Therefore it's not the documentation coming from North Cyprus that's the problem it's that there are no DEFRA approved carriers flying from Ercan (yet) and animals can't cross North to South. As you have to enter the UK on an approved route you have to go via a third country and then take an approved route into the UK. If Turkish Airlines, Pegasus (or who knows Atlasjet!) apply and are approved then the need to go via a third country will disappear. According to the DEFRA website new routes and carriers are being added all the time.

Cyprusquest


Joined: 09/12/2008
Posts: 428

Message Posted:
22/11/2011 15:31

Keep posting about DEFRA and illegal routes to get pets to the UK and they will be forced to find a way to close them down! You can be sure they see posts on boards like this.

Me 20 + 21 - You are allowed to use any route to bring an animal to the UK if you put any legally imported animal in quarantine if required.

nicola


Joined: 06/09/2011
Posts: 246

Message Posted:
22/11/2011 16:49

Me25, if you have the correct documentation there is no question of quarantine.

artistabroad


Joined: 06/07/2009
Posts: 104

Message Posted:
22/11/2011 17:00

Message 25 - the whole point is that it is not the animal that is 'illegal' - there is no 'legal' direct route to the UK from North Cyprus - for the simple reason that no airline is approved as yet. An indirect route is in no way 'illegal'.

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
22/11/2011 20:20

I think what you need to do is be able to read the rules correctly.

Check out the part that says your animal should not have been outside a listed country in the last 6 months.

You can enter the UK from another EU country but.............

You can legally travel to Turkey with the correct paperwork, enter Bulgaria where i have a contact kennels who can prepare your pet for EU travel to the UK,they are an approved route. This will take some time but is legal. All you have to do is take your dog across to Turkey on the ferry, it can be collected from there, passported and transported on an approved route from Bulgaria by road to the UK. I need numbers to do this to be cost effective, if anyone is interested let me know.

http://www.topdoghotel.com



EU Pet passport ? as far as i understand it, the TRNC doesn't have any to issue.

Whistler


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 1332

Message Posted:
22/11/2011 22:29

Daveboy Message 18. When you got to Paris, did you have transport waiting for you to get you to the uk.

That is the only problem I can see with the way you did it. Thought about going to UK and buying a car and letting hubby bring the pets to Paris where I would meet them, or is there an easier way.

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
23/11/2011 04:21

The other thing people need to remember is that Turkish airlines have a larger list than most other airlines, of dogs they won't fly.