The truth and nothing but the truth

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
25/11/2011 15:11

Read this:



End of the game in Cyprus



http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-263874-end-of-the-game-in-cyprus.html



AJ

theparson


Joined: 28/05/2011
Posts: 129

Message Posted:
25/11/2011 15:18

Somewhat biased I think.

Wonder what the GCs journalists slant on the state of play is?

grahamsteptoe


Joined: 22/10/2010
Posts: 110

Message Posted:
25/11/2011 15:29

Somewhat biased indeed....to put it mildly! And where did this information pop up from?



"Adding insult to injury, the Greek Cypriots also provide shelter and safe haven to some 3,000 Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) militants even though the PKK was condemned by the US and the EU as a terrorist organization."



Haven't heard that one before. Be interesting to find out how he can substantiate that particular piece of 'investigative journalism'!!!

steve.sewell


Joined: 07/11/2011
Posts: 277

Message Posted:
25/11/2011 15:31

What will be will be, i hope they don't sort it out for a least a couple of years.

dalartokat


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 734

Message Posted:
25/11/2011 18:01

Message 3.... Abdullah Ocalan, when captured in 1999 in the Greek Embassy in Kenya, had a Greek Cypriot passport in the name of a Greek Cypriot columnist. The Greek Cypriot Orthodox Church gave money to Abdullah Ocalan and as the article says, members of the PKK were given shelter and also social assistance money. Turkey is the enemy of the Kurds, Greeks and Greek Cypriots, so a better place to take advantage.



Now the crossing is open how many Kurds have crossed over? TC's don't trust them. Now the wound is beginning to open in Syria how many PKK terrorists have they been harbouring? Maybe a good time for them to get out and where best to go, dosn't take much thought there.



Too much on the agenda to ever think there will be settlement.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
25/11/2011 18:51

Messages 2 & 3

So are you saying the journalist is not telling the truth?

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
25/11/2011 18:56

AJ turkey has more journalists in prison

than China and Iran

what would you write?

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
25/11/2011 19:08

Re: Msgs 1&6,

I, too, think that the article is biased and inaccurate.

I don't think it is the point of telling or not telling the truth; he expresses his view which, as any other view, is subjective.

For example, he doesn't take into consideration the changing views and sentiments of Turkish Cypriots, only provides the old rhetoric about Greek Cypriots' spite with Turkey.

So yet again it's all about Turkey, not about today's generation of Turkish and Greek Cypriots and what they want - hence biased in my view.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
25/11/2011 19:40

Ladies and gentlemen: it's not a news or background article in msg 1, it's a column. A columnist gives her/his opinion, often strongly worded. A columnist has the right to be biased, inaccurate and he/she may exaggerate - reporters and journalists at the desk may not.

I hope you appreciate the column now for what it is: the opinion of one man, Abdullah Bozkurt, in a column.

steve.sewell


Joined: 07/11/2011
Posts: 277

Message Posted:
25/11/2011 19:42

clarissa2



Your 100% correct there, you have worded it much better than i have.

foxylad


Joined: 01/11/2011
Posts: 56

Message Posted:
25/11/2011 19:43

then why did the originator of the topic point out it was 1 mans opinion.instead of making out it was a news item?

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
25/11/2011 19:48

Doomed I tell you Doomed.....................Sell up and get out...





Look at that which is not being said, that's were the truths lye .......... Aristotle

Jovial_John


Joined: 31/01/2009
Posts: 1024

Message Posted:
25/11/2011 19:59

The link contains the word "columnist" and the article is headed with "Columnists" - so why would anyone think it was a news article?

foxylad


Joined: 01/11/2011
Posts: 56

Message Posted:
25/11/2011 20:02

coz were all thickos on here

bar you aj and dc ?

ataturk


Joined: 09/09/2008
Posts: 712

Message Posted:
25/11/2011 20:33

I think it is a well written article with a lot of good points, most of which I am aware of. It's easy to see how one would see it as biased if they didn't know the full history of the Cyprus problem. The good old Greek propaganda machine would be responsible for keeping most of these facts under the carpet but with the advent of the internet I feel the Turkish Cypriots are getting there message across.



Of course its perfectly natural to disagree with what the papers say as we all have our own opinions.

theparson


Joined: 28/05/2011
Posts: 129

Message Posted:
25/11/2011 20:46

Must hold my hands up and admit that I thought it was a news item and not the opinions of yet another columnist..

Give me Littlejohn in The Mail, he at least brings a smile to my face.