Womans racist rant - would you want her as your neighbour

Visitor


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 10:42

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2067265/YouTube-video-Transport-police-arrest-tram-passenger-vile-racist-rant.html

AndyR



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 10:56

The actual video can be watched here .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEo84lONpi0

dalartokat


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 11:09

I've witnessed a similar thing on London Transport at London Bridge about 5 weeks ago, 2 separate incidents, one guy who was drunk and did a speach similar to the above, everyone ignored him.



The other incident was in reverse where a guy(black) got on the bus, showed his pass, the driver(white) said his photo was blurred and immediately the guy went into a racist rant to the Bus Driver, everyone had to get off the bus and the guy continued to hurl abuse at the Driver who then said he would call the police. By the time another bus pulled up for us to continue on, the Police never arrived (maybe bluff) and the Driver got back on the bus drove off whilst the guy was pre-occupied with ranting to other passengers.



Some seem to play it to their own advantage, others may just find it all frustrating. You will never get total harmony, no matter how much we are told its a multicultural society in UK.



If she above was of sound mind she would not have spounted off in front of the child

NCMan



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 11:10

Brilliant !

hattikins


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 11:16

Brilliant, not how I would describe it, disgusting more like.

nicola


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 11:24

Take out her disgusting language and a lot of Brits would agree with her sentiments, the UK is the dumping ground of the world.

newlad



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 11:31

She is only saying what alot of people in Britain think,but darent open their mouths.No need for all the language though.The name Enoch Powell springs to mind,



Paul.

nicola


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 12:02

Paul, how right you are but I am staying quiet otherwise I will be banned yet again for being racist by the mods on here

parkview



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 12:11

She can't even string a sentence together without the F word, this unfortunately is the sort of lower class uneducated whites we don't want around us either, I would not want to be living next door to someone like that, my god, can you imagine what her kids are going to grow up like. Even if you agree with her sentiments she is just scum, but that's my opinion.

Harold2555



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 12:17

Unfortunately she probably is of sound mind, the language in front of children including one in her care at least if not hers underlines the ignorance shown by her racism.



The lady (using the term very loosely) in question has been charged and will be appearing before Croydon Magistrates later.

nicola


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 12:25

Good morning Harold, I am waiting for you, No1 or Simbas to ban me yet again for daring to half agree with her sentiment.

Harold2555



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 12:33

Nicola



If you are so keen to admit that you are ignorant that is fine by me, demonstrate it on this board and your wish will be fulfilled.



Harold

nicola


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 14:00

Such arrogance eh Harold, ignorance is not something I suffer from, I doubt the same can be said for some others, where have I wished to be banned? seems ignorance is a problem for you!

Donaldson


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 14:12

Sorry to get back on topic, but...

Newlad compared this woman to Enoch Powell. I disagree, because while there may be some similarities in the underlying message, Powell was a very highly educated and eloquent speaker, whereas this woman is merely intolerant and looking for someone to blame her own troubles on.

Jimbo51


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 14:34

Has anyone considered what instills racism into the British people.Here are a couple of examples:-



We are told by our government that we cannot fly the English flag on St. George's day as it might 'offend'

the ethnic minority.

We cannot call it a Christmas tree now.It is now called a 'holiday tree' so as not to 'offend' the ethnic minority.

Two foreign guys set fire to a poppy in 2010 During the 2 minute silence on remembrance day.They both get a fine of less than£100.In the same instance an Englishman paints a poppy on the wall of a mosque with a spray can and gets 2 years in nick.

I am by no means racist.I have a lot of foreign friends who are very dear to me but when a government conducts itself in this manner and pussy foots around with the ethnic minority then racism will always exist until the government decide to alter their pathetic rules.

newlad



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 14:59

Woe,woe,now hang on there Donaldson."Newlad compared this woman to Enoch Powell".I certainly never meant it to come out like that.The point that i was trying to make was,that he (Enoch) foresaw the problem that we would have with immigration.And unfortunateley,he was lambasted for his beliefs.Whether the woman in the video,has even heard of Enoch Powell,really wouldnt like to comment on here.But if anyone wants to take me to task,my e mail is on for all too see,



Paul.

babydoll


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 15:01

Well said Jimbo51

Visitor


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 15:07

Shame no one seems concerned for her child? She is clearly unfit as a parent and has exposed herself and therefore her child to possible risk of harm.



I think she as with the poppy burning idiots are a minority. Whats positive is that she is challenged. Years ago her views were far more common.

newlad



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 15:07

Jimbo,



Cant even fly the cross of St George at the Emirates,



Paul.

AndyR



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 15:13

From Wikipedia .....

"At the beginning of the Crusades, a red cross on white was already associated with England because this was St George's cross, the emblem associated with England's patron saint"

Many in modern Arab countries don't see the English flag as a symbol of England, they see it as a reminder of invasion and religious war.

I'm not saying that's right or wrong, just offering another viewpoint.

hattikins


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 15:18

Several years back some bright spark from the jobsworth club decided that having a picture of the baby Jesus on postage stamps at Christmas was offensive to people of ethnic origin.I was working at the time with a lovely guy from Pakistan, I asked him if he would be offended by this stamp, he replied that he didn't really give a toss about the stamp but would be offended if I didn't send him a card.

Racism is fuelled by the repeated lack of action by any political party to deal effectively with the immigration problem,I agree with Jimbo that much of the problem is caused by government policies.

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 15:32

This 34 year old woman, who is clearly suffering from some chemical intervention - either alcohol - or would seem more likely by the way she moves her lips, drugs - either to 'control' a labelled condition, or drugs taken for 'recreation purposes. Either way, she is too ignorant to realise that EVERY human on this planet, originated from Africa 200,000 years ago...



She has been arrested, and presumably the child taken into care - the black people on the tram acted with restraint and decorum; clearly realising she is afflicted in some way shape or form - she has to be mindless (not to say gormless) to have thought she could speak in that manner and no-one take her to task - for the child's sake - lets hope he is with someone else - it is the only chance of a future he will get; if left with her - he is doomed.

Visitor


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 15:34

Well said MsGarnet

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 15:36

As for St George - is there anyone who doesn't know, he was Turkish? Makes me laugh that he is the Patron Saint of England - but then - it's only rock and roll...

nicola


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 16:40

Ms Garnet,



She has been arrested, and presumably the child taken into care - the black people on the tram acted with restraint and decorum; clearly realising she is afflicted in some way shape or form - she has to be mindless (not to say gormless) to have thought she could speak in that manner and no-one take her to task - for the child's sake - lets hope he is with someone else - it is the only chance of a future he will get; if left with her - he is doomed.



I would tend to disagree,

The UK has gone to the dogs and if you are a Brit you are the underclass.



Part of post removed , for your racist remarks , take a long break and please don't send me any more of your e-mails , i will not be opening them........... Simbas

GinaC


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 16:47

There is no condoning her behaviour but Nicola said



"I would suspect that not one of them spoke english so didn't understand or were illegal immigrants and didn't want to attract attention."



What an awful generalisation and in my opinion derogatory statement which in my opinion smacks of homophobia.

GinaC


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 16:52

Sorry I used the wrong word in message 26, not homophobia I meant Racism.

Donaldson


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 16:55

GinaC - Homophobia? We're getting into a whole new sphere now! Did you mean xenophobia - "fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign"?

nicola


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 17:28

GinaC are you a brit?

nicola


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 17:30

Also to add, it is not racist it is fact, ask any Brit living in London.

GinaC


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 17:45

Nicola, I was born in the UK so in answer to your question yes I am.



So it is a fact is it that all the non white people on the tram were in your opinion "not able to speak English, didn't understand what the lady was saying and they were illegal immigrants and didn't want to attract attention."



I suggest you watch the video again and listen to the language spoken by the other passengers and what they had to say.



If you really feel that all other Brits feel they are the underdogs and ALL non whites can't speak or understand English and ALL are illegal immigrants then you have my sympathy. The woman in the video is racist, her comments are racist and you appear to be echoing her remarks.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 17:50

For me, the worst thing was that she had a child on her lap whilst this filth was coming out of her mouth. She's not a proper Mother and the child should be taken away from her.

britvic



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 18:01

I am not condoning this Woman in any way however, I do wonder what kicked this rant off? As someone has only chosen to start filming in the middle of her rant, we don't know if something offending was said to her first.

BizziLizzi


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 18:06

This type of racism appalls me, including some of the comments on this Board, particualy since everyone here is , presumably, spending at least part of their lives in a country that is not native to them.



But on this occasion I am entirely with Mrs. G. The main point is the child. The woman was obviously under the influence of something in charge of a youngster - and look at him. Is it natural for a child to remain so unmoved when its mother (presumably?) is ranting like that?



As for message 25, the man behind her was obviously following every word and dithering whether to interfere until another pinko grey (not necessarily Brithish?) woman comforted him.



It is ignorant, uneducated people like the ranting woman who are the "underclass" and cause racial friction, which in turn leads to the stupid laws which are made - possibly not very wisely and certainly not successfully - to try to control it.

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 18:12

Nicola - I would not be contravening Forum rule 3 by calling you an ignoramus, as I am stating a fact. Add to that, dullard and simpleton and I am still stating facts. IF you had bothered to look at the video, the black woman to the right of your doppleganger spoke clear, polite English, something the vast tranche of 11 year olds leaving junior school in England today, are barely able to do. I am 100% English and am heartily ashamed should you also be (are you)? in which case, I suggest you get your money back from the charm school and spend it on adult education - as no-one can get far in these straitened times, if all they can do is chew gum and cross the street, at the same time! Why the assumption immigrants are always illegal? My mixed race, highly intelligent, highly educated Graduate daughter would feel the same degree of sympathy for your lack of social education as I would, were you a child, but as an adult, the onus is on you to redress that glaring educational omission.

nicola


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 18:12

Actually britvic I hadn't thought of that, I can't imagine she just started her rant for no reason but some ppl are too quick to judge.



No she shouldn't have been swearing and I have already said that and her child has probably been taken off of her, makes you think why she did it.

nicola


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 18:13

GinaC, I would suggest it is you who has a problem, I have not condoned what she said, I have merely remarked about it, take a chill pill girl.

Jkell


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 18:20

Jimbo . Sums it up for me !



and the burning of poppies and only getting , fine yet spray painting a poppy gets 2 year sentence ?!



Why is that >?!

Rottolover



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 18:29

nicola, are you spider in disguise?

nicola


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 18:57

Roto, I will let you make your own mind up, sighs heavily with disbelief.

newlad



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 19:01

Nicola,you are Pikey,and i claim my fiver,



Paul.

nicola


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 19:11

Paul spot on lol, I have my sailors suit on as we speak ha ha ha

LaptaGeezer


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 19:32

It doesn't matter where St George was from... that is not the point that was raised! It was more to do with England cow-towing to all and sundry when the English traditions should be upheld, not to be racist or anything like it, but simply because they are English traditions. Can you imagine going down to Kyrenia and telling the locals that the statue of Kemal Attaturk offends you and can they take it down! The answer you would get is a very loud 'NO' and quite rightly so.... if we, as guests in the TRNC don't like the local way of doing things then the answer is simple... go home. Same thing should stand for England, if you don't like the way we do things here... go home.

The young 'lady' in the clip is voicing exaclty what millions of people would love to say... she is not saying it very well and that is wrong of course, especially with children around, but the basic content of her message is valid as well we all know.

There are too many 'guests' here in the UK.

newlad



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 19:32

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/show-member.asp?member=PtePike



It really suits you sir,



Paul.

nicola


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 19:35

Paul don't I look smart in my suit lol x

GinaC


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 19:35

Nicola message 34.



Thank goodness your posts above are still here for all to see, you say you do not condone what the woman in the video says which is clearly racist in nature and as we know she has been arrested for the incident.



So you do not condone her comments and yet you say on here and I quote



"Take out her disgusting language and a lot of Brits would agree with her sentiments"



and then speaking about the black people on the tram



"I would tend to disagree, I would suspect that not one of them spoke english so didn't understand or were illegal immigrants and didn't want to attract attention. The UK has gone to the dogs and if you are a Brit you are the underclass."



So using your words above, if you remove all the profanity from what the woman said a lot of Brits would agree with her. So telling them to go back to their own country, berating them for taking all the jobs etc is acceptable comment to most Brits is it? Such comments are racist and show your true ign

GinaC


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 19:35

continued



Such comments are racist and show your true ignorance.

nicola


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 19:37

Laptageezer, my sentiments exactly, stand by to get villified and leapt upon from a great height but the usual suspects on here. bleeding heart brigade at it again I am sad to say.

BizziLizzi


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 19:38

This type of racism appalls me, including some of the comments on this Board, particualy since everyone here is , presumably, spending at least part of their lives in a country that is not native to them.



But on this occasion I am entirely with Mrs. G. The main point is the child. The woman was obviously under the influence of something in charge of a youngster - and look at him. Is it natural for a child to remain so unmoved when its mother (presumably?) is ranting like that?



As for message 25, the man behind her was obviously following every word and dithering whether to interfere until another pinko grey (not necessarily Brithish?) woman comforted him.



It is ignorant, uneducated people like the ranting woman who are the "underclass" and cause racial friction, which in turn leads to the stupid laws which are made - possibly not very wisely and certainly not successfully - to try to control it.

spider


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 19:45

I wholeheartedly agree with message 33 Vicki. Some people just love half a story and like a pack of wild animals quick to be judgemental and IMHO nothing but ! always eager to add to something and turn things around. Who on this forum actually know the truth in this story.Were they on the train and witnessed this lol..



Shaking my head





Spider,X

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 19:45

@ msg 20, AndyR: (...) "At the beginning of the Crusades, a red cross on white was already associated with England because this was St George's cross, the emblem associated with England's patron saint" (...)



▶ Sorry, wrong from A to Z. The word "Crusades" didn't exist in the beginning. It's from much later. The red cross wasn't on white - it was a rough piece of linen (cloth) on the left shoulder of people who vowed to go on the pilgrimage (not "a crusade") to the Holy land.

And the red cross had (has) nothing to do with "England's patron saint" - it was shown for the first time here:

▶ [ http://www.allcrusades.com/CHRONOLOGICAL/chronological_pics/clermont-urban-II-map-1.html ].

and here:

▶ [ http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/urban2-fulcher.html ].



Just for the record.

spider


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 19:47

Might I just add appalling yes but some people and like that !









Spider,X

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 19:52

@ msg 39, Rottolover: (...) nicola, are you spider in disguise? (...)



▶ No, Rottolover. She is the banned "DeeCyprus" on this board, now showing here as "nicola". She is not only cheating people who do not know - she's also been sending threatening and very offensive emails to more than one C44 member.

P.S. And I can prove it with her emails.

martinD41


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 19:57

Come back Enoch all is forgiven,,,, Mind you, I found nothing wrong to forgive him for ...

spider


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 20:02

Thank goodness some have a choice.





Spider,X





Most of post deleted due to racist contents , take a break Maria and think about what you have just written .............Simbas

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 20:05

..."Same thing should stand for England, if you don't like the way we do things here... go home."...



If the black, brown or 'foriegn' person in question, is 3rd or 4th generation born in England? how ridiculous would that make you sound...

Rottolover



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 20:09

"black, half blacks and everyone else"...



I guess you know of what you speak, Dutch, but message 55 certainly sounds just like nicola.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 20:13

@ the moderators about msg 55 by Spider: (...) My husband hated working in London because of the black,half blacks and everyone else. My daughters in-laws just this year moved out of London into the country after living there all their lives.Because they too were sick and tired of it ! (...)



▶ How can this racist post be tolerated?! I protest.

LaptaGeezer


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 20:16

Ms Garnett.... then it doesn't apply to them... it applies to the others!!! Simples.



Don't know why you have focused upon the Black Brown etc... because I certainly did not!

spider


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 20:16

He's not one to like you much either Han's lol









Spider,X

steve.sewell


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 20:18

Lifes to short to be racist, its not a colour issue anyway, black, half chap, asian, does it really matter.

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 20:21

Dutch - Msg 58. I am in total agreement.



I continue to be astonished at how this "therapist" (in which case, I am a monkey's uncle)! gets away with her passive aggressive postings day after day...clearly someone should have gone to Spec Savers, or have allowed their deep sympathy for her enormous shortcomings to blind them to the genuine feelings of decent people who read her drivel...



I can only be grateful that she and her ilk are not in England as we speak; there are enough dysfunctional, inadequate, knuckle dragging, neanderthal xenophobes here as it is, without adding to the numbers...

Rottolover



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 20:21

LaptaGeezer, if you weren't referring to "the Black Brown etc." by 'guests', to whom exactly were you alluding?

spider


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 20:26

MsG



Maybe you should treat yourself to a pampered day at the hairdressers it would do you the world of good and you might start to like yourself a little more



But saying that always remember that a new hair do will not help others to like you !



Shame !



Spider,X

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 20:27

Elko2 and Simbas, you are on line (8.26 pm). Don't you feel the need to oppose/punish the racism in this thread?

Which threads ARE you reading?

simbas



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 20:29

I am now

Simbas

Rottolover



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 20:30

I guess racism doesn't contravene rule 3....

newlad



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 20:34

Slimblos to the rescue,go girl,



Paul.

spider


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 20:39

Paul.









She works so very hard as do they all.





Spider,X

simbas



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 20:46

I just want to say as a poster , I am appauled and disgusted at some of the posts i just read .

Simbas

simbas



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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 20:47

This thread is now closed. Reason: Not specified.

girne 29


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Message Posted:
29/11/2011 21:09

ginaC message 45



Quite agree with you ''So telling them to go back to their own country, berating them for taking all the jobs etc is acceptable comment to most Brits is it? Such comments are racist .



Well Gina, at least all the people on here who support the woman are being distracted from there usual tirades against the unemployed ,single mothers ,public sector workers,Krauts, Spics, Frogs, those on income support , and all the other 'cheats '(except themselves, when cheating the Inland Revenue).



Guess the local population are justified in telling all Brits to .'go back to there own country, berate them for taking all the estate agents jobs etc,



They forget that immigrants who moved are only trying to better their lives ,by getting work and feeding their families. A far higher moral ground than some on here who moved ,not because they had to, but saw a way of avoiding taxes and buying cheapo property,and moan about a UK that they are no longer part of.