Property victims in the south - please sign petition

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 17:48

I know we have so many problems here, but spare a thought for those with problems in the south, now facing the spectre of Banks taking them to auction too.



http://northcyprusfreepress.com/2011/12/06/cyprus-property-victims-roc-petition/



Spare a thought for them too and perhaps the minute it will take you to sign their petition.



We are all in the same race - the human race.

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 18:32

Well said Polly. I have signed. We may be divided by a "Green Line", but the "Cypriot rip off" works the same way, either side!!



It must be something in the air that turns them into thieves.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 18:39

@ msg 2, yenibob: (...) It must be something in the air that turns them into thieves. (...)



▶ "THEM"..?! And all Brits are "Gary Robbs" also..?!

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 19:15

DC, why do you think you have the right to take anyones post to pieces. We dont need it, we have enough problems.



Clearly Yenibob knows that all TC's and GC's are not thieves, all Brits are not conmen and all Dutchmen are not picky.



Don't you dare turn this post into one of your slanging matches, go start another one of your own.



You have told me you no longer support us, so why bother reading it.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 19:18

Have signed!

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 19:23

Don't worry about it Dutch. I realise English is not your first language and therefore accept you will never be able to fully understand the idiomatic and colloquial use of the language.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 19:29

DC



I think "them" means the GC and TC Governments that allow, indeed one could say promotes a system, that allows buyers to be scammed. This situation has occurred over many years, ample time for an effective Government to close the loop-holes by introducing new laws. Neither side has taken this option.



So in the eyes of many "they" and "their" inactivity cannot be defended and as such both are guilty.

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 19:39

power will have to wrestled from the noses of those who those so deeply in the trough, just a few, but with the powere to make changes if they wanted to.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 20:20

Polly,



I read with amazement that Mavis Robb has been unceremoniously accompanied to the airport and her home returned to the landowner. How does this affect the situation for the others on the site? Is the land owner likely to give deeds?



I take it Robb won't be returning then? Good response for South petition and interesting comments.

CathW


Joined: 09/10/2011
Posts: 36

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 20:38

I have signed, having only recently purchased in the North I had no idea of the extent of the problems.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 22:10

we all knew the risks ?

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 22:20

You might have done rowlo, cos your so clever but many didn't! hope you and your caravan have signed the petition?

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 22:25

, i signed it just for you msg12 .

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 22:45

Thank you rowlo, especially from me! I'm sure all the victims in the south will also thank you personally

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 22:54

@ msg 4, pollymarples: (...) and all Dutchmen are not picky. (...)



▶ Well, after several years this "picky" Dutchman came to the conclusion that you are your own worst enemy. Your campaign for a potentially good cause is an all-time PR disaster.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 23:04

DC (mess 15)



I think you are wrong! pollymarples continues to work for all VICTIMS! (extremely hard) and as for a PR disaster! DC perhaps you need to look further forward! and not be so self absorbed in your own small world of the past!

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 23:34

You are not a "picky Dutchman" but the male equivalent of a Stepford wife. Brainwashed and cannot see reality.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
06/12/2011 23:40

Bradus



Would DC know what a "Stepford wife" is? There are so many in the TRNC! it's quite scary :-(

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
07/12/2011 06:54

Oh dear DC seems I touched a nerve, as for being a PR disaster, I wont argue with tthat, what is it you newspaper people say, there is no such thing as 'bad publicity'. I do the best I can within my very limited capabilities DC, but then I am only an aging, former blonde female. Don't tell me, let me guess, the lack of support, the head in the sand syndrome is all down to me. At least I try and I can be very trying at times.



There you are I am totally self deprecating. There is nothing you can say about me DC that I haven't worked out, I have no illusions about myself. With my initials, how could I be anything else but a PR disaster.

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
07/12/2011 07:15

For all of those who have signed, my grateful thanks.



I never realised when I retired here that something so life changing was about to happen to me and no I really didn't believe that mortgages could be taken after purchase, that auctions could take place on properties belonging to a 3rd party to settle a debt and that Banks could act outside the law. I believed the only threat came from the South and to a degree I could accept that. I did not even realise there was an enemy within.



I have no idea how to be a slick PR person, all I know is that all that has happened has released an anger in me that will not let me take this lying down and that anger has motivated me to try to help others too. One thing I have never done is blame others for not being able or willing to do as I do. If there are two at a vigil, then I am very grateful for the company, I will not use the lack of support as a reason notto continue, other victims are often frightened, who am I to blame them.

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
07/12/2011 10:23

281 signatures so far, I know some are from here, so thanks to you all.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
07/12/2011 22:57

Please sign this petition! If you are not affected by any problems in Cyprus either North or South, help the many victims that have been! we need your support!

astro941


Joined: 22/05/2011
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
08/12/2011 05:05

Have signed.

walkerscott


Joined: 13/08/2009
Posts: 901

Message Posted:
08/12/2011 07:55

all petitions are good and show others who finds themselves in these awful situations that they have support out there.

http://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers.com/ is also doing a great job warning people in the south to take care when thinking about purchasing property in the RoC



http://no-deeds-no-money.moonfruit.com

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
08/12/2011 08:23

over 500 signatures now, and the comments, say it all.



If you dont feel you want to sign, perhaps some of the comments may change your mind.



These are flesh and blood people, just like you and me. They are hurting and being hurt.

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
08/12/2011 09:06

I have not looked through the list of signatures but I think any signatures from turkish Cypriots may do more harm than good. So I did not sign.

ismet

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
08/12/2011 09:50

All inthe perception isemt, surely anyone can care.

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
08/12/2011 16:52

If you paid for your villa, employed a legal professional (boo hiss) and the bank think it is okay to sell your home because they didn't do their homework, loaned money to fraudsters, did not show due dilligence, did not protect their investors/account holders money, and the law allowed them to do it, I say the law, the government and the banks are to blame and should carry the loss. The only none professional in this equation is the purchaser, yet they are expected to be the losers. Do not let nepotism, cronyism and corruption continue unchallenged.



Show your disgust, sign the petition, 566 people already have.

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
09/12/2011 07:25

624 signatures this morning. NOt many Greek Cypriots though. Unlike Stop the Blackmail 1360 plus and many Turkish Cypriots. Could it be the TC's are not ashamed of the what their govt. is alllowing to happen, I hope not.

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
09/12/2011 08:42

Oh dear what a booboo, what I meant was could it be the GC's are not ashamed. Sory to all the Turkish Cypriots who read C44.



Clearly a significant unmber of TC's are ashamed of what their government are doing hence their membership of Stop the Blackmail.

sharky1


Joined: 03/01/2012
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
03/01/2012 16:05

hi Rowlo and the others, can you please clarify what the problem is in a very simple and clear way ( as I'm not british nor mother tongue) ? I'm inte4rested in buying a north cyprus property and I'm trying to clarify risks and issues related.



please your help will be much appreciated.

thanks

sharky1


Joined: 03/01/2012
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
03/01/2012 16:05

Hi, if a potential buyer want to purchase a property being absolutely sure and clean finalizing the property acquisition, what the correct process is (if any exists)?



Was told to me from a real estate agent that the process is easy and clean, you buy the home, this come in your name, while title deeds go temporary to a lawyer until you get the PTP as easy and clean (but I do not feel so serene with it). that's what was told. Can someone help clarifying how things works and how should be ran to have correctly and clean bought a property in north cyprus? (what should I check and what should I do to be completely safe).

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
03/01/2012 18:19

Oh dear, if you buy a property and because you need Permission to Purchase put it into a Trust with your Advocate who is TC and therefore able to transfer title to the Trust immediately, there are many questions you need to ask. First and most important - HOw much is the cost of this exercise, is there an annual fee?how much to have it transferred out of the Trust and into you name when you have Permission to Purchase? What happens, if permission is refused. Remember whilst in the Trust, your Advocate/Trust will want your Power of Attorney. Do you know them well enough to trust them with this? You could find a property you paid for no longer belongs to you. Personally, I would not touch it with a barge pole.



Look at North Cyprus Free Press and the Stop the Blackmail in North Cyprus facebook page also the Home Buyers pressure Group before you make any decisions.

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
03/01/2012 20:46

sharky



Dont take offence, but are you serious

''Was told to me from a real estate agent that the process is easy and clean, you buy the home, this come in your name, while title deeds go temporary to a lawyer until you get tthe PTP as easy and clean .



An estate agent told you !!!!!!!!!!!. Give the title deeds to lawyer!!!!!!!



Come on .you might be new here, but surely less than 2 minutes of research on this board alone, would have given your answer ,Bargepole and touch being part.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
03/01/2012 21:22

girne 29



I assumed sharky1 was yet another wind up of which there are many on this board!



Anyone with any sense whatsoever should know.......................



"NO DEEDS NO MONEY"



If you can't get deeds do NOT pay any money



I would be very wary of sharky1 perhaps he's just a great big whale, with a little brain!

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
04/01/2012 09:49

Look at what this thread is about, such an accident that sharky chose this thread to put his question?



Back to the topic, please do sign this petition, a vctim is a victim no matter which side of the border.



sharky, have you signed???