boy throwing stones at our dog

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 00:23

I'm disgusted how some people are towards animals, if they were nice the animals would be nice.

LaptaMike


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Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 00:47

I am disgusted with those who who have read the post and declined to comment. Must be a lot of animal haters out there.

mozgor



Joined: 16/06/2010
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 01:01

Anyone throwing stones at any animal is only and act of cowardice in my opinion and I totally understand why you would be upset at a boy throwing stones at your dog. If it had been my dog and I'd seen him - I can't say what I would have done!!!!!

Riddles


Joined: 26/04/2011
Posts: 429

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 01:15

What was the dog doing?

EamonnMc


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Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 01:33

Throwing stones at the boy ? give some details man !

bertieboss


Joined: 22/07/2011
Posts: 149

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 03:49

I think some of the posters on here care more about dogs than they do about people.

There was no dog problem in Cyprus until the brits arrived - certainly in my experience since 1968.

Now you cant get to sleep at night in places like Karaman because of constant barking.

You dog people are all bonkers!!

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 04:56

mess 1 - no mike - the brits came to trnc full of hopes and dreams, but sooner or later the system knocks the stuffing out of you and folk stop caring..........

Deniz1


Joined: 28/07/2009
Posts: 3829

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 08:04

Throw stones back at the boy and see how he likes it.

Riddles


Joined: 26/04/2011
Posts: 429

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 08:39

....or bite the dog!

AndyR



Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 317

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 08:40

Why not throw the dog at the boy?

You could start a new sport, dog-hurling! Prizes could be awarded for distance achieved, imaginative dog-howling , the number of small boys hit etc etc.

Alternatively, dogs could be hurled from Buffavento castle with prizes being awarded for the number of bounces on landing.

Seriously, boys throw stones, it happens and it doesn't make them animal haters, get over it!

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 09:18

Start barking and run at the boys, they will be so surprised, they may even stop coming anywhere you or the dog.

Geoff1131


Joined: 12/07/2007
Posts: 276

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 09:48

Looking at the time of the first post ( 00-23 ) the reason for the stone throwing could have been that the dog was barking and keeping people awake. To stop this from happening again, may i suggest that you keep the dog indoors so that any barking will keep you awake instead of your neighbours, and you can quickly stop the dog from being a bloody nuisance. Problem solved!!!!!!!!!

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 09:57

Perhaps if you gave a few more details, like when and where, and if you saw it how did you deal with it. Just because people didn't comment doesn't mean they are animal haters, your posting was a bit vague to be honest.

paddywack


Joined: 04/05/2009
Posts: 959

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 11:03

Msg 6,

I prefer dogs to most people, dogs are honest and do not lie to you.

Tango1


Joined: 19/02/2011
Posts: 1151

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 11:16

Msg 1.......I'm sorry that you were sorry that insufficient people posted in reply, but Msg14 us correct, you haven't exactly given us many details. In reality NO-ONE should throw stones at dogs, however this is KKTC, so what was the dog doing.

davpat


Joined: 23/08/2011
Posts: 225

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 11:31

I'm with you on that comment Paddywack,if I see anyone throwing stones at my dog,they will get more than stones back at them,regardless of the cause,I will take my chances with the authorities.







David

honeybun


Joined: 13/07/2011
Posts: 47

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 11:32

Hi this is to 'bertieboss' message 6. is it the dog situation or the 'BRITS' you cannot tell me that the dogs were not a problem as we certainly didn't bring them with us. The 'BRITS' are the people that take the dogs off the streets (or get left puppies on their doorsteps by some thoughtful local). We have had boys throwing stones at our house and went to local school to report as it seemed to happen when children came out of school.. No Problems since, but children will be children.

bazzagirl


Joined: 09/05/2010
Posts: 525

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 13:51

PADDYWACK HOW I AGREE I HAVE 3 DOGS AND WOULD DIE FOR THEM I HATE MOST PEOPLE THEY ARE DISGUSTING ESPECIALLY THE BRITS IN THE TRNC!!!

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 14:00

msg12, it happened earlier during the day (lunchtime). My dog wasn't even barking.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 14:03

Message 18



You're not one for sweeping generalisations, then?

Denise


Joined: 14/03/2009
Posts: 590

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 14:17

if the parents don't respect animals it's no wonder the kids do what they do. but kids will be kids no matter where they are and it's our job to educate them and show them how to love all animals.



but i agree with paddywack, dogs give us unconditional love and i for one would go to the end of the earth to protect my dog.



i don't know MikeLapta but from his previous postings i can see he is a responsible dog owner who loves his dog to bits and couldn't imagine him letting his dog disturb anyone.

how is that beautiful dog of yours Mike?

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 14:27

do you mean me or MikeLapta? ;-) If you mean me then our dog is fine apart from a white bump on his tongue. If it hasn't gone in a few days we'll take him to the vets.

Denise


Joined: 14/03/2009
Posts: 590

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 14:38

sorry Mike yes i do mean you i'd just realised i'd put the name back to front. hope the bump on his tongue turns out to be nothing. Merry Christmas

LaptaMike


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Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 14:46

Merry Christmas to you aswell, along with to all the other members of C44

mikelapta



Joined: 20/11/2008
Posts: 2186

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 15:21

Denise,I am the beautiful Mikelapta,with a whitish Cyprus poodle,who was found on a skip in a black bag by my friends last September.Hunni is also beautiful,and the best dog I've ever had !!!!



My friend Laptamike has a gorgeous Alsatation,caled Efes



Hope that clarifies the situation !!!



All the seasons greetings to you,and to Efes,Mike and your Mum xx



Mike

Allan


Joined: 28/12/2010
Posts: 40

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 16:04

There's a lot of hote out there for dogs and brits, shame really as its only an ignorant person that would make such a sweeping statement, need I say more on that!! There are good and bad people throughout the globe, and as for dogs well they deserve more, certainly in Cyprus. The street dogs are usually put where British live (or other populated area) by KAR so they can be fed, this is sometimes undertaken on a rota within the street or just left to one person, this is not the ideal situation and I personally find it hard, but under the circumstances perhaps the only solution with an over-population of unwanted dogs.

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 16:18

Mike, msg25 all the best for Christmas and the New Year to you and Hunni too. It's been too long, we'll have to get together and have a beer or something one evening.



How did the chilli plants I gave you turn out? My chilli plants still have some chillis on them. The beans you gave me turned out great thank you.

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 17:17

Mike, i had the same experience with my neighbours kid. Basically she is a brat.

what i did was the dog that she was throwing stones at, i got her on the lead when the brat was outside our house and took the dog outside to meet her. She was so scared she ran and hid. That stopped it for a while. Anytime she torments the dogs now, i just tell her i will let them out after her. It appears to work short term until the brat forgets and needs reminding.

LaptaMike


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Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 17:27

It's strange, he's fine with kids, it's men he doesn't like. Can't understand why he was throwing stones.



It's understandable why he possibly doesn't like men, he had a very bad leg (from being kicked presumably) and a cigarette burn on his head when he first turned up. (Still has the scar from the burn).

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 19:00

As some of you know, there is a rather nasty family in Karsiyaka, who are fairly well known. Well, on more than 1 occassion, they have thrown stones at my own dogs, for no reason except that it's fun. Thing is, if my dogs see something being thrown, they will automatically go into 'catch' mode, unfortunately, one time it was a brick, and Poppy ended up with a broken tooth! However, when this happened, my (turkish) neighbour was walking past at the same time, and she punched this person so hard he fell down!! Bloody brilliant!! That was 2 years ago...i haven't had a problem since!



Now i'm not saying you should punch the stone thrower...but if you see them do it again...knock the f^*@~r out!!



DD

LaptaMike


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Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 20:09

DD lol. I avoid violence when I like the plague when can. Once, when cornered and started on I punched a bloke and he was in hospital for a few days. It was purely self defence of course.

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 20:15

Its not just a dog thing. I have seen my neighbours get into a row and throw stones at each other,lol.

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 20:36

However...if i want to to walk through my village to get to the main road, (on the bus road) i have to walk the gauntlet. About 200 metres down the road there are 2 pointers guarding a house that has goats and chickens etc. Now, if you are in a car or on a motorbike..no problem, but if you try walking past this house those 2 dogs come at you growling and barking, with hackles up and saliva spraying out of their mouth, if i try to ignore them, they come so close i could read a name on their collar (if they had one). What should i do except throw a stone at them...but if i did that, then it may excite them so much, they may actually go into attack mode. I feel like a prisoner in my own village. But to avoid missing the bus i must go past this house...so, what do i do? Throw bricks at them or add another 500 metres to my walk......





I think i want to buy an electric cattle prodder...



DD

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 21:07

My English Cypriot friend was dragged from his bed in his pj's and arrested for throwing stones at the neighbour dogs. He is like 67 or something.

He got back from Turkey and that night they came for him. the neighbour had complained he had thrown stones. He had been complaining for years about the neighbours dogs and the disgusting conditions they are kept in. He is totally in his rights cos the guy hasn't cleaned up behind them in years.



Well when the police knocked on his door gone midnight and said open up this is the police, he said yeah right and told them to sod off and more. He didn't belive it was. But in the end he found out it was the police and they arrested him,lol. They gave him a warning for both the stones and swearing at them,lol.

canada


Joined: 17/05/2011
Posts: 195

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 21:09

i was bit by a small dog that looked harmless and i did not provoke it .i was lucky he bit my jeans and i was wearing high boots .the owner was there and didnt do a thing about it

steve.sewell


Joined: 07/11/2011
Posts: 277

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 21:15

lapta mike



What are you talking about you fairy, playing the tough guy on the internet.

moritzkatz


Joined: 27/02/2011
Posts: 69

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 21:47

Daisy Duke is the only one posting with a real problem. . . . Yes definately get a cattle prodder used once the dogs will stay away from you if not use it on the owners and I am certain the dogs will leave you alone. I am one of the dog lovers and wished it were possible to have at least a dozen, as for the rock throwers I would confront the kid with the dog on his lead on then bend over and warn the kid if he ever again throws a stone at my dog I will release him as I am about to do now if you don't get out and stay out of our sight. Currently we and our TRNC rescue dog are in Germany where several time I have done this when kids think it is smart to kick football at him- ( It works ! ) I too prefer dogs over most people.

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 22:10

Canada, i have only ever been bitten once, same thing did nothing to provoke it, it came around from behind and had me on the elbow. Luckily it was winter time and i had a baggy jumper on, it grazed and bruised me but wasn't able to sink its teeth in. After i learnt it wasn't its first victim, more like the fourth! Same as ,the owner just didn't do anything about it. People just need to learn to control their animals.

Riddles


Joined: 26/04/2011
Posts: 429

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 23:40

If you prefer dogs to people because they 'give unconditional love' (i.e. 'don't talk back' , 'don't have opinions different to yours', don't challenge your predjudices') then it's your own psyche you need to confront rather than 'stone-throwers'.

WAZ-24-7



Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 695

Message Posted:
25/12/2011 00:28

There is a dog issue in TRNC and its getting worse. Terretorial , vicous, aggressive animals are becoming very common encounters. Pack culture with scavenging, hunting and terretorial conflicts will soon become established.

These animals must be dealt with and controls need to be implemented.



Every day of the week I experiece some sort of threatning encounter from a dog. Owners of dogs simply fail to take adequate control of their animals or just do not understand or care.

bertieboss


Joined: 22/07/2011
Posts: 149

Message Posted:
25/12/2011 03:27

Honeybun message 17 - just reiterating that there was no dog problem until brit expats began to settle in Cyprus.

I lived in Limassol for 3 years in the late 60s before mass tourism and the clamour for cheap property and never ever heard any dogs barking.

The barking problem in TRNC particularly up Karaman way is ridiculous. We stayed in an apartment on the road up into Karaman and some old biddys dogs never stopped at all times of the day and night.

Similarly we stayed up near Bellapais a previous year and it was equally bad.

It gets worse year on year.

I'm not making it up - in fact I'm amazed no one else complains.

I have no problem with dogs - they are generally nice animals - it's the daft owners that are the problem.

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
25/12/2011 15:00

I think the problem relates to people who take on dogs thinking they are helping them, but are not doggie people as such.



The grey wolf is only 0.2% different in DNA than your domestic pooch. Lots of the dogs here are born on the street, instinct take over , then people try to domesticate them. It doesn;t always work.



Dogs are quite capable of surviving as street dogs in packs, it only natural. If you think you are rescuing a dog from the streets i am not sure you are doing it in the best interests of that dog. That dog may well have issues and you as its new owner are going to have to deal with them. If your not up to the job then don't take it on in the first place. Leave it happily in its pack.

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
25/12/2011 17:44

Dogs and or any other pack animal were never meant to live in towns - never mind houses! I am indifferent to anyone wishing to keep a dog and it is their choice. But I would not condone it either. Dogs in the house, birds in cages, fish in fishing bowls, fat cats in sitting rooms are nothing more than glorified ornaments for the owners!



Most dogs would rather be out in the open where they belong and chased by a young boy, than being imprisoned in a house. No wonder they keep running away and get run over by vehicles on the roads!

Boys will be boys...Boys in Cyprus never threw stones at street dogs, for fear of being attacked by them - neither is it an everyday event. Clearly a rare occasion - but you get hyped up and "give the boy more than what the dog got" as one poster says; you will not be facing the law but some burly father who would probably walk into your house and beat you to pulp!

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
26/12/2011 01:11

I would like to point out our dog decided to live with us, not the other way round. He does now spend a reasonable amount of time in the house especially as it's winter. (He likes his home comforts).



He is certainly not a perfect dog but he will do what dogs do. He always barks at the gardener, the pool guys or anyone else he perceives to be a threat to the property or family.



He didn't bark at the kid throwing stones because he doesn't class kids as a threat.

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
26/12/2011 04:56

Ridiculous saying the "dog "decided" to live with you, not vice versa - a statement of total negation of responsibility for the dog's behaviour - any animal goes where it realises there is a food source and shelter - it's instinct, not cognitive behavour. As to assuming he had a bad leg "presumably because he was kicked" - there are a bazillion other reasons why any animal would have a bad leg - "cigarette burn"? how would you know it was that, and not (again) a mark from a trillion other causes. If he "always" barks at the gardener et al - constant visitors - why have you not trained it NOT to do so? and how would YOU know he perceives them as threats - too much anthropomophism going on (as is SO prevalent amongst many dog lovers) yet doesn't bark at children because "he doesn't class them as a threat" if the child could see the dog, to throw things, you have no idea how the dog appeared to the child. If "nice to animals they would be nice back", bears, crocodiles, rhino, etc???????

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
04/01/2012 01:01

MsGarnet, I have pondered over your post.



"Ridiculous saying the "dog "decided" to live with you, not vice versa"



We don't live with the dog, he lives with us.



"any animal goes where it realises there is a food source and shelter "



He didn't have either for a few days but still stayed



""cigarette burn"? how would you know it was that, and not "



The vet told us, he looked at the burn on his head.



With regards to training him not to bark at people, we have tried, he just hates the locals, he doesn't seem to trust them at all.



Maybe we have a racist dog.

Riddles


Joined: 26/04/2011
Posts: 429

Message Posted:
04/01/2012 01:10

Are there any psychiatrists in TRNC? ....appointments must be cheaper, in the long run, than buying lots of dog-food for the socially maladroit dog-fanciers.

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
04/01/2012 01:15

Riddles, I find that offensive.



If you had read my original posts you would realise that I just find it disgusting how people here treat dogs and other animals

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
04/01/2012 01:24

Riddles, I suppose you are one of them that just run over cats and dogs??





Do you BBQ your road kill??



You Redneck

EamonnMc


Joined: 18/06/2010
Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
04/01/2012 02:02

Mike,



Animals give love and loyalty without the asking, people sadly, too often only reply with cruelty !