What happened to the Cider man west of Kyrenia

Allan


Joined: 28/12/2010
Posts: 40

Message Posted:
31/12/2011 11:17

What happened to the cider man restaurant on the right hand side out of Kyrenia towards Karaoglanoglu?

He was there approximately 3 or 4 years ago, he seemed to be doing very well then closed down; can anyone shed light on what happened?

He sold freshly made pizzas, cold draught beer in an ice frosted glass, and of course cider.

Tango1


Joined: 19/02/2011
Posts: 1151

Message Posted:
31/12/2011 11:24

It's now COD BABA (fish and chips) and has been so for some years .

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
31/12/2011 11:51

He continued selling Pizza from his home, I almost bought his villa but didnt, dont know what happened after that.

stubbs1


Joined: 07/08/2011
Posts: 174

Message Posted:
31/12/2011 12:00

He did good pizza was a real shame it seemed to do well. Charlton Ath supporter nice guy.Crap football team.

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
31/12/2011 12:45

and hot doughnuts....aaah, how i miss those little hot pieces of Manna.....





DD

StGeorgeI


Joined: 27/08/2009
Posts: 973

Message Posted:
31/12/2011 14:04

Pizza's weren't that nice, much better available now! Doughnuts were nice though.



Stubbs1 msg 4 - he is actually a Palace supporter. Still.... nice guy crap football team!!



G

stubbs1


Joined: 07/08/2011
Posts: 174

Message Posted:
31/12/2011 14:38

yer right same flat beer land with no head I get all those London clubs mixed up Charlton QPR ManU.

Allan


Joined: 28/12/2010
Posts: 40

Message Posted:
31/12/2011 16:20

Thought the pizzas were good as he would make as requested, and a decent pint of lager nice and cold, he seemed to be doing well, its just one minute he was there optimistic about the future, and the next gone!!

Shame.

bertieboss


Joined: 22/07/2011
Posts: 149

Message Posted:
01/01/2012 04:09

He ran an excellent business badly!!

I think he continued to import cider but obviously the market wasn't there.

Pity because we miss the doughnuts ( when the machine was working!) and the cider - but there you go !!!!

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
01/01/2012 05:57

This just may answer the question!







http://youtu.be/2Q6S92nLZO8



Richard

Ballyboffin


Joined: 25/08/2007
Posts: 903

Message Posted:
01/01/2012 12:38

bertieboss. Aren't you an occasional visitor to TRNC? ? ? Surely you can get doughnuts in the UK....



Mark worked hard at his business so I don't see that anyone has the right to say that he 'ran an excellent business badly'.

Allan


Joined: 28/12/2010
Posts: 40

Message Posted:
01/01/2012 14:12

Msg 9



I also think it is unfair to criticise a business that has closed down maybe for a number of reasons.

Mark made the effort to provide a service with possibly a substantial amount of investment.

Perhaps the market was simply not there, but he made his customers feel welcome.Good luck to him.

Cyprusactive


Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 128

Message Posted:
01/01/2012 19:25

Mark worked hard and ran a good business, he like many others was tied up with the administrative nightmare that is the TRNC. In everything he tried he was ground down, but that is why the TRNC is a failure and until there is a business friendly attitude and economic common sense to encourage the creation of wealth they have no future.

For example a country entirely dependent on tourism needs an airline, an airport that is not a joke like Ercan and a Ministry of Tourism that works to get people there. The word abject failure springs to mind!

Ballyboffin


Joined: 25/08/2007
Posts: 903

Message Posted:
01/01/2012 19:48

Well said Allan & Cyprusactive. Good luck to Mark, now in the UK so I believe.



I know from experience that it is almost impossible to run a business in TRNC as a foreigner.

bertieboss


Joined: 22/07/2011
Posts: 149

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 00:45

Ballyboffin - what is your problem?. The man was ok but he had zilch customer skills. That is my opinion and bugger all to do with you !And why does it matter whether I am an occasional visitor or not? You sound a bit of a half wit!!

Ballyboffin


Joined: 25/08/2007
Posts: 903

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 01:03

I see bertieboss that you are back again with your vitriolic comments. They do say don't drink and post....



And if I want an opinion from an ar*ehole I'll Fa*t.

Cocklebay


Joined: 26/02/2011
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 12:04

Bertieboss, please put yourself back on the ward!, and stay away from the rest of the human race!

eagles


Joined: 23/03/2009
Posts: 80

Message Posted:
03/01/2012 04:52

This is Ciderman - to put the record straight why we closed is as follows;

We opened in July 2004 and closed July 2006 this was a two year rental agreement.

When we completed the two year agreement we wanted a longer contract of 5 years,the landlord rejected this he wanted two years again,however, the landlord(the local mooktar - sorry bad spelling) wanted to double our rent not the normal 10% increase but 100% increase.My wife and I decided

based on this increase we wernt prepared to line his pockets further from our profit and decided we close.We had a fantastic enjoyable time and had a huge customer base, where customers came from kyrenia,Nicosia and famagusta.We employed 10 staff.We were the first pizza in North Cyprus to offer pork related products i.e. ham,bacon,pepporoni,salami and using mozzeralla cheese.You couldnt in those days buy those products on the turkish side so we purchased from the producers on the greek side.The first to import cider ......continued on next p

eagles


Joined: 23/03/2009
Posts: 80

Message Posted:
03/01/2012 05:08

We were the first company to import cider and to sell freshly made donuts.

The cider when it arrived by a 20 container the customs had not heard of cider,so when they looked at the tariff of duties they couldnt find it,so they said a figure which was extremly high and killed the opportunity to supply all the supermarkets although we managed a few like lemar,so we focussed on selling direct from our restaurant.The freshly made donuts was a different marketing ploy.We had customers that either come in for cider or donuts or pizza or all three.We new they would be a winner to the customers.

Running a business in TRNC is not easy and apart from the investment we put into the building which was a empty shell before we moved in , the staff wages and the local taxes , generator fuel for the then many power cuts, it takes alot determination and work ethic to succeed in another country.BERTIEBOSS has no idea about running a business in the TRNC.What a plonker! ........continued on next p

eagles


Joined: 23/03/2009
Posts: 80

Message Posted:
03/01/2012 05:23

People like him have got nothing better to do because they couldnt do it.

We had a reputation of serving good food, our prices wernt cheap,but it was the quality product and service we aimed for which we succeded.We offered the food and drink market at that time something different.Any succesful business entails alot of planning and marketing.Thats why today 5 and a half years on, we are still remembered for customer satisfaction.We had live music every monday night and belle dancer,and the arab which was entertaining.When we were operating we were asked to open branches in nicosia and famagusta, but i felt i would lose the control of what we were doing - you cant be in three places at once,so we stayed as one resturant.In the period we operated we were the busiest pizza place in kyrenia by miles.Today I think moni penny is the best pizza place in kyrenia - they buy stock from our then suppliers on the Greek side.I hope this clears up any stories flying about why we closed,now you kno

eagles


Joined: 23/03/2009
Posts: 80

Message Posted:
03/01/2012 05:28

We could of relocated but we felt we had invested heavyly already in this resturant,and decided to sell.

Today im back in the garden of England.

Stonker


Joined: 15/10/2011
Posts: 24

Message Posted:
03/01/2012 07:04

Wish you the very best of luck Mark, I still laugh when I remember that day in HSBC.

Cocklebay


Joined: 26/02/2011
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
03/01/2012 07:22

Mark, why justify yourself to people like bertieboss, he is obviously a prime tosspot! I can still remember the good times etc!

Cocklebay


Joined: 26/02/2011
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
03/01/2012 07:23

Mark, why justify yourself to people like bertieboss, he is obviously a prime tosspot! I can still remember the good times etc!

Ballyboffin


Joined: 25/08/2007
Posts: 903

Message Posted:
03/01/2012 12:14

I agree with Cocklebay. Good as it is of you Mark to explain the situation regarding your business, it is just that..... YOUR BUSINESS! There should never have been any need for it. You worked hard and tried to make an honest living in TRNC, a virtually impossible task, I know.



bertieboss is a horrible little man who appears on here to spout venom and insult usually late at night when he has had a few I imagine. I have also been on the recieving end of his barbs before this post, totally unprovoked I may add, he just does like me or my opinions for whatever twisted reason he has.

Ignore him, he is without doubt an unhappy, frustrated and unfulfilled person. Perhaps more to be pitied than dispised.



Good Luck to you in the UK and A Happy New Year.

Allan


Joined: 28/12/2010
Posts: 40

Message Posted:
03/01/2012 12:17

Mark



Brilliant!



Many thanks for putting the record straight, as mentioned I for one thought it was an excellent business, we chatted several times, enjoyed your beer, cider and pizza. It's just a shame the system was against you, and of course the landlord.

All the best

rigsby


Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 912

Message Posted:
03/01/2012 12:24

Why not tell them how you tried the metal business Mark? I thought you were a real trier,All the best.Ps;I never worked your magic tricks out either.

eagles


Joined: 23/03/2009
Posts: 80

Message Posted:
03/01/2012 16:47

Many thanks for all your nice comments - we really appreciate your loyal support.Bye

lilyross


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 137

Message Posted:
03/01/2012 20:25

lets put this one to rest now !!