Do you need a Gardener Lapta-Karsiyaka area

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
10/02/2012 23:09

Please call



Mustafa and say Maria gave you his number. 0533 873. 4697.



He has stated 80tl to clear a garden even if it takes two days work the price is 80tl.



After this 2hrs a week 30tl.



Spider,X



PS.. Phillbaily no need to comment please. And no need for further postings the Thread may now be closed. Posted for information only. Thanks mods.x

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
10/02/2012 23:28

could you send him round to me please.

Coming from karsiyaka,next left after hos-bes.One before the last house at the bottom of that road.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
10/02/2012 23:29

on a second thought,I'll ring him when I find my phone.Cant promise he'll be able to work again after he's been round though.

spider


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Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
10/02/2012 23:53

I left his number yorgo , no need to post lol



Do you not have a female gardener ? Perhaps I might be wrong ! Think he will be getting booked up quick by the line dancers. We are thinking of using him ourself too. He works at the Club Samina Hotel if you cant find you phone. You must feel lost without a phone



Spider,X

EamonnMc


Joined: 18/06/2010
Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
10/02/2012 23:55

With respect, Spider, paying someone slave labour rates is an abuse, in my opinion. I'm all for a bargain but I believe the the old saying The" labourer is worth the hire " in other words don't exploit a worker. If you can get someone to undercut the "standard " rate by 10 or 20 %...fine, but everyone who works is deserving of a decent wage. It's about human dignity.

spider


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Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
11/02/2012 00:05

EamonnMc.



Please do not shoot the messenger I have nothing to do with what he charges ! We are thinking of using him I said and if he dose come to us later on he can expect a bloody good tip for a good job done. That's just how we are.



I know a very good painter



Spider,X

spider


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Message Posted:
11/02/2012 00:08

EamonnMc.



His number is posted please feel free to call him yourself. he might appreciate a call from you.







Spider,X

EamonnMc


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Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
11/02/2012 00:20

Thank you Spider, I am sure that you are a decent person , I never said otherwise, I may indeed use him myself but I will pay him what I consider to be an honest wage, everyone deserves it . I will make sure that if I employ him, it will before he does yorgozlu 's garden , as he may be too knackered to be useful to anyone after working for him. In a human situation , all are entitled to their dignity.

spider


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Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
11/02/2012 00:28

EamonnMc.



I agree wholehearted with all you say. Lets hope he gets the work he needs and members are as thoughtful.





Spider,X

EamonnMc


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Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
11/02/2012 00:35

Thank you again, Spider, I know that the vast majority of people on this forum are human beings who are , in all respects, decent and honourable, people. Only a few will exploit others.

Jovial_John


Joined: 31/01/2009
Posts: 1024

Message Posted:
11/02/2012 09:08

Message 5

Where do you get the idea that 15tl per hour is a slave labour rate? For a 40 hour week that is 600tl, and for a month is 2400tl - that is 70% above the minimum wage. The minimum wage is approx 8.2tl per hour for a 40 hour week.

philnles


Joined: 11/08/2008
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
11/02/2012 10:02

Meesage 5.

If someone comes and gives you a price of 50 lira to sort ouit your garden would you then give them 100 lira ?

EricCrapton



Joined: 30/12/2010
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
11/02/2012 11:33

If they do a good job (Mind you it's BIG if!) yes, i would reward them with a bit extra but i'd have to be pi**ed out of my head and or brainless to give 100% more!



And yes I will give hime a bell, even at that price.

Agobard


Joined: 20/08/2008
Posts: 271

Message Posted:
11/02/2012 15:38

Message 11: what unbelievable nonsense! The guy is presumably self employed and has to pay for tools/equipment, transport costs and all the other self employed expenses to go out to jobs. Also, given that this kind of work entails taking on jobs all over the place, he is hardly likely to be working for a straight 40 hour week but using up time in travelling. In addition, the original poster did not say that the guy charged 15TL per hour exclusively - he charges that on a regular, short hours gardening job. For garden clearance he charges 80TL 'even if it takes 2 days'. I do not know this gardener or the poster of this thread but I get mighty fed up with this nitpicking nonsense from Brits complaining about rates of pay that they wouldn't be prepared to get out of bed for!

Jovial_John


Joined: 31/01/2009
Posts: 1024

Message Posted:
11/02/2012 16:15

Tools/equipment for gardening are hardly a massive outlay - mine cost me about 200tl and are still going strong after 8 years (say 1 year for a full time gardener or 4tl per week). 80tl for a garden clearance is obviously an introductory offer hoping for ongoing maintenance at 15tl per hour. My gardener uses a moped; he can get anywhere from Karsiyaka to Esenteppe in 30 minutes for 2tl and he has no other overheads because he uses my tools. He does his 2 hours per week on a single day per month so his travelling is minimal.

Finally, I did not in any way complain this rate of 15tl per hour - I commented about it being described as 'slave labour'.

EamonnMc


Joined: 18/06/2010
Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
11/02/2012 16:29

I did not say that 15tl an hour was a slave labour rate. I commented on post no. 1 and the "up to 2 days work for 80tl" as being slave labour rates.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
11/02/2012 16:57

Im the slave in my garden, I do it all for nothing ...

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
11/02/2012 18:08

Why would you advertise someones services then say your thinking of using the guy yourself?

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
11/02/2012 18:14

msg 18, dunno another mystery ??

Jovial_John


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Posts: 1024

Message Posted:
11/02/2012 18:41

Then I heartily apologise to you EamonnMc - I have misunderstood your post.

EamonnMc


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Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
11/02/2012 18:51

No need for apologies, Jovial John, I did not take offense and perhaps I was a bit imprecise in my original post. Cheers.

spider


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Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
11/02/2012 20:44

Messages 18-19 Oh dear. Why strange. ? I have not used his services as yet '' easy '' If I had I may well have posted ie; Very Good gardener



Vic dose our garden but I was thinking of a little '' treat for him '' perhaps getting Mustafa round to do ours. Like give Vic a break ! Vic may even feel like working along side him,get the job done faster and still give Mustafa a good days pay too. Anything else that you do not understand. The story is as.



Us line dancers were doing our practice. and in the coffee break Mustafa asked us all if we needed a gardener. I explained that my husband dose ours,so he asked me to ask my friends. I was thinking that if I posted on here Mustafa may well receive some phone calls for work. Blooming E'll I did ask for the thread to be closed. It was for information purpose and did not feel it needed a long drawn out thread !



How wrong was I Anyway his number is there if you would like to call him. I hope all is understood now.



S

spider


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Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
11/02/2012 21:14

Maybe if someone has contacted him already and has a date perhaps they could post if they were happy enough with his service or not,what they paid him and even what they gave him for lunch too



It would all be very helpful Here is a photo of our garden work that is ready to do. Perhaps someone could say low long this may take. 1 day,half a day ? Mr Spider would take his time,he's getting a little older now . :( http://postimage.org/image/6qvtn8a0n/ Before.



http://postimage.org/image/judyk09x3/ After We could turn this thread into a Garden Photo Thread if you wish. These were taken last year. Vic did all the hard work on his own. May I will call Mustafa To help out this year.



Spider,X

goldfinch


Joined: 20/12/2008
Posts: 35

Message Posted:
11/02/2012 22:25

Is this the same guy who used to deliver water ???

MaggieAndBernie



Joined: 26/07/2008
Posts: 2012

Message Posted:
12/02/2012 00:39

Msg 22 I know it's not a typo as you repeated it twice!



Dose = 'a dose of salts'



Does = Mr spider DOES our garden



Just a quick wee spelling lesson! no need to thank me...You're welcome!

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
12/02/2012 11:05

Maggie love your showing yourself up.



Thought for the day..........Four out of every three people.....have trouble with fractions.



http://postimage.org/image/on89gywup/ Move closer to the screen and smell the sweetness of a rose.



But thank you anyway,always remain behind me and in the wind



Spider,X