Residency can anyone confirm the information I was given today

jamestalbot


Joined: 20/12/2009
Posts: 958

Message Posted:
21/02/2012 17:58

I went to Girne Police station today, and was told because I am over 60, I do NOT need to re apply for temp residency, and that no penalty applies if I don't.



Has anyone else been given this information

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
21/02/2012 18:01

there are threads about this msg1.

MrsSnakes



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 1100

Message Posted:
21/02/2012 18:08

James, as rowlo says, there has been much discussion but nothing solid or in writing. Snakes and I went a couple of weeks back to Girne Police, nothing was mentioned to Snakes about residency not being needed, they are happy to take the revenue but not confirm this officially. This is the way it is here sometimes. At least you dont have to have the blood tests!!

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
21/02/2012 18:17

It would appear that the police and the immigration department often speak different languages. fyi the brs are trying to sort this out, but for now, I think the all round advice is 'don't believe the police station'. Why not have a chat to a lady called Canan in immigration. She has good english and helps a lot of brits with enquiries. and if you can't get it in writing anywhere anyhow, go get your residency and at least you won't have to worry as to whether you have to leave the country every 3 months to remain legal. And what about a driving licence, etc etc.

I wish someone would explain WHY the police say this to some folk and not to others. Or maybe you could tlak to someone who represents the BRS as they do make an effort to keep up to date with government rules and regs.

yrret


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 761

Message Posted:
21/02/2012 18:39

#4 - "I wish someone would explain WHY the police say this to some folk and not to others"



Because the left hand doesn't even know there is a right hand.

No-one will put anything i writing because they actually do know they don't know, they just don't want you to know it.

jamestalbot


Joined: 20/12/2009
Posts: 958

Message Posted:
21/02/2012 18:44

Message 2 Rowlo, I know there are threads about this, this information was given to me today by the immigration police officer at Girne Police station. A friend of mine went for her residency a few weeks ago and nothing was mentioned to her.



But I asked the question what do I need to do to the Immigration police officer and the above was what he said, can the BRS help please.

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
21/02/2012 21:00

We went last wenesday to do our residency .. Nothing was said ..

Whilst there went to traffic to see if my car was "clean" ..

After giving the policeman my reg no he said "this car is registered in the name of a Turk" ..

I said "no, the car has been registered in my name since 2006" ..

"Have you the log book?" .. "Yes in the car" .. "Can you show me?" .. "Yes" ..

After getting the log book from the car, he never looked at the log book ..

He said "it is "clean" since I bought the car" ..

There was an outstanding fine from 2004 .. "Not your problem" he said ..

This has never shown up before & I have enquired at least twice every year to make sure there are no speeding tickets against me .. Makes you wonder ..

baldy


Joined: 18/11/2008
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
21/02/2012 23:00

Marion message 4. I agree, Canan provides excellent assistance. We applied for our 2 year renewal 2 weeeks ago. I telephoned her after the application regarding the non-requirement for temporary residency for those over 60. She confirmed that for those over 60 temporary residency is not required but this has never been confirmed in documentation. She also brought up, as you mention the potential problem with driving licence renewal etc. Her advice was in order to feel secure living here pay the 216TL per year each and renew our residency which we are doing on Friday.

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 02:52

Thanks Baldy for the answer. So I guess we must accept that 'Canan knows' and all go on the safe side to avoid problems. Personally I think 216tl (even deemed to be a rip off by some) is good value for peace of mind! Or as the old saying goes 'better safe than sorry' especially as someone like Canan has no written confirmation and thus making the idea the Cypriot version of 'chinese whispers'

Deniz1


Joined: 28/07/2009
Posts: 3829

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 08:13

Just a thought if a settlement is reached with the ROC would those of us "legals" be in a better position?

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 08:55

If a settlement were reached, the North would fully become part of the EU.

All EU citizens,including Brits, are entitled to live anywhere within the EU.

Residency, temporary or permanent, would not be an issue for ANY EU citizen.

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 09:00

There have been loads of threads on the >60 visitor permit issue and no satisfactory conclusion has been reached as far as written documentation - yes/no?



It seems strange that so much discussion will go on about this subject with no mention of any legal or solicitor involvement by anyone - yet the slightest touch of "house purchase problems" means everyone rush's off to their solicitor to get it solved. Not complaining about anything here, just asking a question:



Has anyone gone to a solicitor and asked about the >60 situation yet?

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 09:03

So if you do not want a driving licence then you do not need residency thereby creating another level of 'visitorship'. Is someone sat in Lefkosia thinking "Now what can I do today to make things more complicated for the 'visitors'?



I am sure that in the fullness of time the Government will address this anomaly.

yrret


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 761

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 09:14

#11

Maybe not the case, or not in all cases.

Our UK friends live near Larnaca and have to pay anuallyy for residency in the south.

When they investigated the reasons, they found out that the south charge EU citizens for the service, then get fined about 200,000 Eu by Brussels, but they take in about 2mEu in fees so are happy to pay the fine.

Another case of the fine institution unable to police itself.

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 09:17

Wow! Shocking! Thanks for informing us of that.



Perhaps Britain should do the same, nice income for them.

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 09:25

Time after time this subject comes up and always someone mentions driving licences. Why? You don't need your residency stamp to get a license. We did ours last month filled in the form prior to going and all they ask for is your passport number NOT if you have residency.



Chris

NCMan



Joined: 19/09/2009
Posts: 670

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 09:43

Yes but surely by having your passport no , they can check if you have residency or not ?

Barking


Joined: 07/02/2012
Posts: 51

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 09:46

NO, this is why they look for the stamp in the passport when you cross the border, residency is not on computer !

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 09:47

NCMan,



I don't think for one minute that they check every application, they didn't even ask for the passports to check the number for themselves. We just handed the forms, money and old licences over and were told to come back in a month. Which we did and now have the new 3 year licenses!



Really why would they want to know if you were resident or not, it's not really applicable as long as they have your address.



Chris

NCMan



Joined: 19/09/2009
Posts: 670

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 09:49

Ref Msg's 18 - 19.



Two very good points.

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 09:50

But our neighbours bought a car here (they are not residents) They were told at the Licencing office in Lefkosia where they had gone to get a TRNC Licence that unless they were residents they could not have one. They now own a car which they drive on their UK Licences. They went to their Insurers and explained the problem and the insurer said they were happy to insure them on that basis and gave them documentation to prove this.



Our neighbours often spend the full 90 days here.



Why is it all so unclear? Do these things change daily/weekly?



I find it all confusing and rather worrying as I am sure that ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it.

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
26/02/2012 13:07

Re Msg 21: regards the last sentence of your post, exactly, but WHAT IS THE LAW??

Geoff