EU Laws re stolen cars

babyheritage


Joined: 31/01/2012
Posts: 72

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 16:06

What if you purchased a car and didnt realise it was stolen, would you still be taken to Court for theft or would you get your money back?



What if you purchased a property in TRNC and didnt realise it belonged to the Greeks, would you still be accused of theft and get your money back>?

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 16:14

I guess if the car theft was worldwide news

and everyone knew the car was stolen

it may be an interesting case

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 18:22

msg 1; try asking the concerned question, re-cars, in a Bulgarian forum of some sort.They'd be able to put you on right 'direction'.

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 18:25

If you purchase a stolen car not knowing, the police will take it from you, you get no compensation. All you can do is report to them who sold it to you. And pursue that person to recover the money you paid them.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 18:27

What would happen if you knew the car was stolen?

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 18:52

you would deny you knew it was stolen .

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 18:54

msg 6 cont.



...........and be happy tp pay third of what it's worth.

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 19:57

No man can pass on better title than that he holds himself. Caveat emptor.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 19:59

where there is money,there is fiddle.ratman

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 20:06

msg9 cont ,



and vice versa .

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 22:19

Msg4, are you suggesting

the same should apply to the property situation?

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 22:21

msg 11;

I can read you like a book. ;)

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
23/02/2012 11:40

If you know its stolen then you will be charged with handleing stolen goods.

babyheritage


Joined: 31/01/2012
Posts: 72

Message Posted:
23/02/2012 12:28

Message 13.....exactly! thats what I was getting at in Message 1....about buying property in TRNC and the article in Cyprus Today on Wednesday, about the Greeks making more claims about the British stealing their land.



What if we didnt know we were buying on stolen land cos the lawyers here said its all legal!!!



Will we be chucked out? What affects owners if they dont have deeds yet.



Very confusing.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
23/02/2012 13:59

msg 14,if you beleive in what you are saying then you'd only be fooling yourself.Particularly if you are from uk.



Of course,there is always the issue of 'trnc' not being recognised!





So,simply no one will take any notice of your 'claim'.

cavalryman


Joined: 08/11/2010
Posts: 314

Message Posted:
23/02/2012 14:33

As for the stolen cars her i have seen a few her two one weekend outside the cafe dukan astom martin db9 on suzuki swift plates and jaguar xf on ford mondeo plates reported to met at chalk farm they were not interested,both on hp and one payment made

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
24/02/2012 00:38

The british foreign office says



Property owners and potential purchasers should also consider that a future settlement of the Cyprus problem could have serious consequences for property they purchase (including the possible restitution of the property to its original owners).

rick1


Joined: 20/04/2010
Posts: 44

Message Posted:
24/02/2012 01:46

If you take control (purchase) any property knowing it to be stolen then you can be charged with a number of offences contrary to the Theft Act 1968, 1978 and a few others that followed.



If you purchase property in good faith and pay a fair price for it and it is later found to be stolen then there is a procedure involving a person called the interpleader who decides who ownes the property. In some cases the new owner who paid a fair price keeps the property whilst the old owner usually an insurance company is considered more able to survive the loss.



Above based on my own experiance.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
24/02/2012 08:56

http://thehoneyballbuzz.com/2009/05/01/warning-do-not-buy-property-in-northern-cyprus/



http://www.cypruskeysadvisers.net/northern_cyprus.html



http://www.wellestates.com/north_cyprus_orams.htm



msg 18-do you think above are also based on own experiance?

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
24/02/2012 11:36

How can anyone claim they purchased property here in good faith without knowing the current Cyprus situation?

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
24/02/2012 12:11

Whilst ever the IPC is in operation there will not be a problem for those that have bought GC homes and land. The real problem will come when the IPC disbands or GC's do not get their desired compensation package, thus allowing them to appeal to ECHR. The views of the ECHR have never wavered so there is the risk that more people will be in a similar position to the Oram's or end up with some sort of financial penalty.



Currently the GC Government are shooting themselves in the foot by doing all they can to prevent their citizens from using and recognising the IPC. A much better tactic would have been to flood the IPC with claimants knowing that Turkey could/will not possibly pick up the cost of compensation, rendering it ineffective. Indeed Turkey is doing itself no favours dragging its feet in paying the compensation already agreed by the IPC.



Only time will tell what the consequences of buying stolen property will be.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
07/03/2012 01:05

Msg 20, strange but possibly true

after reading some posts

ttoli


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 1172

Message Posted:
07/03/2012 01:14

cavalyman MSG 16

I Do hope that your source with access to PNC/DVLA database has covered their tracks, a simple T9 check reveals all who've accesed the info.

viper


Joined: 14/07/2008
Posts: 119

Message Posted:
07/03/2012 09:59

Blade msg 20,

the Pinball Wizard did....that deaf,dumb and blind kid...











viper

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
07/03/2012 13:19

Sounds like there is lots of them here, lol.

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
07/03/2012 17:19

|My son in law is a farmer and whilst I was in the UK last year I picked up his copy of Farmer's Weekly, there was a big article by the NFU (National Farmer's Union) Insurance Company. It said "Can we have our tractors back?") They had tracked stolen, modern tractors to Northern Cyprus and wanted them back



Bet they did not get a reply though!

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
07/03/2012 18:02

Msg 26, Mr Robb again ?

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
07/03/2012 18:10

anyone has idea how much stolen cars from england are being driven around in bulgaria?(so called eu country with eu rules.apearently











































not that 2 wrongs make 1 right.