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TopTen


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Just read on a post about Ismael's progress that Lee has been banned ? is this true can anyone verify.

And if so why ? I personally don't think he as a bad bone in his body, crap singer maybe, but is that reason enough to ban him ? ( only joking )



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Sorry post heading should read banned at the end



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Most of the bans are just plain stupid and silly, why they don't just delete the offending threads or posts is what most sensible mined people would do........ But to ban, is so counter productive ....



What has been gained? .... Nothing, just bad feeling again.... :(



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Yes Top Ten, it is true! I think for a month.



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Is this something to do with Radioangel and CH?



TopTen


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I always thought this was a board that allowed free discussion, of course sometimes it gets heated so what, everyone likes a good argument



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Top Ten, and so did I. It seems that certain recent discussions which so many of us felt were important to get to the bottom of, have been banned and anyone who dares question or mention it will be banned or have their posts completely removed!



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@ msg 5, suehowlittle: (...) Is this something to do with Radioangel and CH? (...)

▶ Just a straight and plain "yes" may nowadays mean a ban.

So: there is a possibility that you may be right. I couldn't possibly comment...



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Msg 1 & 5 YES he is banned for a month for daring to question what can only be described as a huge cover up. I can only assume that a certain moderator (and I know which one!) has been 'got at' and made to silence us! I suppose this will get closed shortly and I too will be banned but who cares? the truth should be told!



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It must be the weather, shrinking our ability to retain perspective which has caused this situation.



Ah well, we will still have the adverts!



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Free Johnny Lee



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Msg 9

Rumour and innuendo again, name names, state facts or be quiet



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Paddywack Msg 12 - Funny I just scrolled through a few of your recent posts and they seem to be full of nothing but rumour & innuendo - not a single fact! so you be quiet too! or have you also been 'got at'?



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MaggieAndBernie



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Lee has asked me to post the following on his behalf:



Please thank the good people for their support and kindness, (oh and tell Top Ten I was going to ask him to team up with me to form a duo, but I am having to reconsider now, I shall probably ask Mad Mick instead)



No problem I don't think not being on Cyprus 44 for a month will be life changing, as long as we can keep Ismail in the public eye.

Makes me laugh, I remember the begging people had to do, to get A little boy with 1 arm and then cancer to get a Sticky. Yet a Picnic for us overfed spoilt expats who don't go short of anything gets one. I honestly think that says it all !



Oh and Free Johhny Lee that's a good one.



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Please do not ask Mad Mick to form a duo could not handle My Way on too occasions. Keep up the support for Ismail and what a great job Lee and Jan have done and will continue doing. Obvious no reasoning on nthe decisin to ban him for stating things that other people were also thinking.



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Free Lee Hickens NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



hattikins


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This just about sums up this forum of late. We have foul mouthed posters, troublemakers, multiple ID,s, racists, link posting idiots, stalkers and trolls, they are still here, yet Lee Hickens, who has worked his butt off to raise funds for a little boy gets banned for questioning where charity money went. I don't know what motivated whichever mod to ban him, I thought the only thing on here that you can't question is the legality of the TRNC.



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Very true hattikins it would seem the lunatics have taken over the asylum!



Free Johnny Lee!



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Lets keep this up the top



Free Johnny Lee!!!



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I've never done this, but in this instance......................................BTTT



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It is indeed sad, that people have been banned from this forum simply for exercising their right to freely express their opinions. Whether you agree with them or not, the right of free speech , should be a given, and should not be arbitrarily taken away. Those who are banned at the moment for daring to pursue a matter that was of great interest to so many, deserve better treatment and should be reinstated immediately.



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Hear hear hear!!!!!!! Free Johnny Lee (& the rest!)



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Free Lee !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



hattikins


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What about Hal C, Richard C or Tony E, have they been banned from 44, or is it just people who wanted an answer to their questions.



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@ msg 17: What an excellent post, Hattikins.



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Totally agree with message 17. Perhaps we should all get ourselves banned for a month and see how the forum gets on then :(



hattikins


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Why not look at some of the old postings by hal9000 or scruffdog regarding the festival, quite hilarious under the circumstances, of course people are going to ask questions!

PS, If I get banned for this I'm sure life will go on, far too much covering up going on here.



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I am so looking forward to Festival 12. Whose pocket, sorry I meant Charity is it for this year?

Tony



DutchCrusader



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I'll be pleased to offer any C44 member, that's getting banned for asking the truth about F-gate, a false ID. THE PROBLEM WON'T GO AWAY, THE TRUTH SHAN'T, WON'T AND CAN'T BE BURIED.



spider


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You may as well give that to a member who is already on here that way having two id's you are never banned.



Most do this anyway, nothing new ! I for one could not be bothered !



The truth never goes away and those that have done the dirty will continue. Its the same with the property problems and the new papers getting gagged.



Spider,X



PS. Han's how many id's do you have ?



MaggieAndBernie



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DC a generous offer but doesn't that make us as bad as the double IDs on here already who we would like to eradicate? They surely can't ban every poster, so if we all united against this decision they would surely have to back down and allow this subject to be debated further until we get to the truth. Think of it as the Cyprus44 Spring! the internet is a powerful tool!



maggie



hattikins


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Lee Hickens has raised a lot of money for Ismail and for that alone he deserves respect. Many posters on this forum have contributed to various charities, willingly too,without those contributions there would be a (transparently) massive shortfall. With regard to the money raised for CH through the festival I feel very strongly that those people are entitled to the courtesy of an honest answer to their legitimate questions. For the Moderators to close threads asking those questions and to ban people for asking them is wrong, all people want is the truth so why prevent it being disclosed.



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Anyone got a link to the said thread. or was it removed ? or is it on someone' Facebook.?



I must have missed something while off out getting on with my life



I am against all of what has happened re Cheshire homes and the Charity money but if they are doing ''Jack sh@@ about it.... What can you do. Oh yes contact Cyprus Today or the police. ?



Ahh campaign to get Lee's ban lifted Hmmm. Nice one. I remember some like this on Coronation Street ?



Spider,X



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Coronation Street? did you actually watch that garbage?



yenibob


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I think Spider should be banned! Post 33 is a flagrant attempt to muddy the waters re the mis-doings surrounding 11.



More tea vicar?



spider


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number 34



Never someone told me all about it Please if you are thinking of contacting the Cyprus Today with regards to this matter please let them know that the K5 Victims have had their electric cut off today.



God help them all. Will they publish '' Either '' I do not think so ! '' Shame on them.



Spider,X



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I'm fairly sure the K5 simply had power cut...no need to start more gossip!!!!!!





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@ msg 31, M&B: (...) the double IDs on here already who we would like to eradicate? (...)



▶ Slightly off topic but about your remark: very true. But what has been done about that annoying fact mentioned in your post? Nothing. I appreciate the work of the moderators, but there are more urgent matters and measures re: C44 than closing threads* by the "unified moderators" as Ismet (Elko2) stated in another thread.

* Banned for F-gate reasons known to the moderators: Johnny Lee, Clarissa2 and ....?

** Am I the only one who finds this childish mumbling by a Spider in this serious thread, erm, ehh, at least disturbing? Oh, where are the times when children, schizophrenics and what have you were silent when grown-ups were talking..?!



spider


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That's great new's then Sam it came from Nige and on the Stop The Blackmail page.



Guess you know all of it.~~~







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MaggieAndBernie



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Post 36 we've all had power cuts today. Why not start your own thread about the K5 Victims. And what's to stop you contacting Cyprus Today about it? I think you are deliberately trying to take this off topic to get it closed. Very petty behaviour but no more than I expect :-(



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@ 29 "I'll be pleased to offer any C44 member, that's getting banned for asking the truth about F-gate, a false ID. THE PROBLEM WON'T GO AWAY, THE TRUTH SHAN'T, WON'T AND CAN'T BE BURIED. "



So, DutchCrusader, now we know that for you duplicity is not absolute. How refreshing. He's prepared to lie like all the others. Hypocrisy knows no bounds, it would seem.



spider


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Han's



Are you sure you are unable to post the photo of your thread.you know the one you got banned for insulting Izzet the owner of 44. Then posting it all on your Facebook.



Now to me that's not the working of an intelligent or well man. JMHO



From my professional cyber assessment haha. lmfao. as rowlo would say



Spider,X



MaggieAndBernie



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msg 38 don't worry a few more cups of 'tea' and she'll be to p****d to type!



MaggieAndBernie



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oops typo - meant 'too'



spider


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A few more beers and wines for you lot and you'll all be sleeping on your laptops





Thank goodness.





Spider,X



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Try not to be too pompous Mr "Wilde". This site has at most a couple of hundred "real" members.



Nowhere near the stupid figure at the top of the page. Fake id's are de-rigour this year.....And why not?



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I have just watched a programme on National Geographic that has proof that arachnids have the smallest brains in the animal kingdom! You live and learn.



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msg 39... Guess you know all of it.~~~





Know all about what???





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DutchCrusader



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@ msg 41, hwilde: Congratulations! You wrote 50 or so posts ONLY about me! You make me world famous in Northern Cyprus - how could I achieve that without your great help! Keep up the good work!



MaggieAndBernie



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Gosh I wish I had my own Fan club! or is it called being stalked? lol



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To be fair Hans, I don't think you can be "World" famous only in the TRNC!



I have done a survey, and my Auntie Mabel in Cleethorpes has never heard of you.



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@ msg 45, Spider: (...) A few more beers and wines for you lot and you'll all be sleeping on your laptops (...)

▶ That may be so. But when WE wake up WE are not still alcoholics.



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Msg 51 well my kids in Morecambe know all about him!



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The banning of Johnny Lee is so very wrong in my opinion, this farce over the accountability or lack of it with regards to Festival 11 will not go away despite the administrators of this forum refusing to allow freedom of speech on this matter.



The forum may be a commercial venture but its the members that make or break it.



Why has an administrator or administrators taken such action, have they been forced to do so if so who by or do any of the administrators or the forum owner have any connections with Festival 11?



I think now is the time to declare any vested or conflicting interests because at the moment it points to something along these lines.



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@ msg 51, yenibob: (...) I have done a survey, and my Auntie Mabel in Cleethorpes has never heard of you. (...)

▶ But I remember Mabel. Wow! Let me tell you about...



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That is a terrible libel Hans.....You should have gone to specsavers!!



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It would seem as if 44 picnics are more important than actually what the members want on here ...



No answers from any of those involved in the Festival 11 and members banned for asking questions regarding where their good intentional money has gone!!!..



Its no better than when a thug hits someone deliberately to cause harm and then the do- gooders protect the perpetrator ....... Shame on the mods ... :(



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Han's



You will all be desperate for another drink Even over your laptops first thing in the morning



While my kettle is boiling !





Spider,X



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Msg 38, update: (...) * Banned for F-gate reasons known only to the moderators: Johnny Lee, Clarissa2 and ....? (...)

▶ Johnny Lee, Clarissa2, RadioAngel and...?



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So, it really would pay us all to have fake id's - that way we could continue to ask for the truth of certain matters, get banned and just carry on as normal.



Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.



Lee Hickens did NOT deserve to be banned, nor does anyone who has done nothing more than insisting that the truth be told.



Freedom of speech is a human right in many other places. Are we less than human because we belong to a Forum?



Please reinstate Lee immediately. It is no loss to him. It is a loss of dignity though for this Forum.



So which moderator banned him or is it a collective decision?



Me next I suppose. Ah well, I've had a good run!



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@ msg 58, Spider: (...) While my kettle is boiling ! (...)

▶ That's what AA-people do, I've read about it. Hide the booze in kettles, pots and pans.



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Hans, you only get 1 out of 10 for subtlety! Have you not heard of Irony? (it's like a clever version of sarcasm).



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Spider, please read message 48



DD



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Msg 38 and 59, update: (...) * Banned for F-gate reasons obviously known only to the moderators: Johnny Lee, Clarissa2 and ....? (...)



▶ Johnny Lee, Clarissa2, RadioAngel, Kaiserphil and...?



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This ban is outrageous and in itself against forum rules and regulations. I think the moderators (some, not all) and Izzet should cast their memories back to the financial "plea" they made a while ago when I know for a fact Lee gave a certain amount to help them out. I think Lee and some others should now ask for their generous donations back. Regards Barry



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Msg 59 DC Ranger5 was also banned



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Oh dear



Seems you have already taken an interest in AA. Good for you. Keep reading I am sure you will find them all a very helpful friendly bunch when you go. Unless of course you intend to take photo's and post them on here. Like you do with buses and things. Maybe you could be a little more helpful and post others a map.



Spider,X



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Comrades in arms Hans? Lets get banned together, and at least I won't have to talk to you! What do you think?



Or to put it another way......BTTT.



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Msg 38 and 59, update: (...) * Banned for F-gate reasons obviously known only to the moderators: Johnny Lee, Clarissa2 and ....? (...)

▶ Johnny Lee, Clarissa2, RadioAngel, Kaiserphil, Ranger5* and...?

* A rumour from a reliable source...



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Would I be wrong to ask which mod banned these people and for what real reason?



DD dont let spider get to you again ... ..you never know you might just get loads of unwanted links if you ask a simple question ... lol



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@ msg 68, yenibob: (...) Comrades in arms Hans? Lets get banned together, and at least I won't have to talk to you! What do you think? (...)

▶ OK. But only if you promise not to send me off-board email...



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bla bla bla........................



you want actions????????///



stop using the forum.







talk talk talk,for what?what has it changed?



abandone the ship and you MIGHT get a result.



begging will get you nowhere



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Not an issue Hans ...Never have......Never will!



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Dizzy.



Please do try to NOT open my links.



I know you just cant help yourself but do try





Spider,X



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Fuzzy face has spoke again. Ok it makes no sense, but at least he speaks!



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Our good friend & most helpful member Elko banned them - very dissapointing I can only assume he has been 'got at' by forces higher than him!

copy of an email from him yesterday 9AND ALSO MY EMAIL TO HIM):



Hi Margaret,

Despite many messages to forum admins asking us to close the thread on Chesire Homes we allowed it to continue for some time and everyone had a chance to contribute and express their views. However, at the end it turned into witch-hunt or bullying and at that point we decided to close the thread. Some members tried to resurrect the thread directly or indirectly and if we allowed this it would make moderation impossible. Hence I closed many such threads and banned those who tried to do so for a month. I apply the same policy every time I close a thread. I will not allow it to be resurrected.



C44 is a forum for free discussion but it is not a place for witch-hunt or bullying. The relevant points were made and the time came to put the matter to rest as far as C44 w



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CONT.

The relevant points were made and the time came to put the matter to rest as far as C44 was concerned. Of course any interested party can look for legal remedies or whatever they see fit as their free choice.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Margaret Redican

To: forumadmins@cyprus44.com

Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 9:37 PM

Subject: The deleted posts, banned member & the missing money from Cheshire Homes





I didn't even go to this fundraiser, so I really have no axe to grind. However I received an email from a very good friend of mine Johnny Lee who told me he had been banned for mentioning this subject on the forum. I copied his message onto the forum and it was obliterated within hours of posting. I then copied it to my facebook page and received many massages of support from forum members.

Margaret Redican I sent the message to Izett who replied 'Hi Margaret, I don't know the answer to your question. Can you please email t



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Can you please email the forum admins and ask: forumadmins@cyprus44.com' so. I am asking YOU the forum admins, why are you deleting every thread about this? why are you banning people over this? is someone/getting to you/ are you being silenced? this is all very sinister WE, the expats of Norther Cyprus, need some answers about this or it will have a diverse effect on future donations to any charitable causes and indeed Cypprus44 maybe reduced to a 'find the lost dog' forum!

Looking forward to an intelligent reply from a forum admin!



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Oh dear.



Its JMHO but I do feel that anyone who has the cheek to copy and paste emails send by any moderator on here warrants a ban.



Very bad taste indeed.



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Go for it Spider! it'll be a novelty to get banned! but not for you eh? you've been banned before for your meddling schizophrenic posts haven't you? As if I care

What I really care about and get mad about is that this is of no interest to you other that to have a go at me and a couple of other members that have 'seen through you' . Why don't you, for the sake of decency, if you have any, grow up & but out!



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A lot of the recent posts have gone off topic and are purely "pissing" contests. We need to return to the subject matter...the denial of freedom of speech....yes, the moderators have a tough job, but like everyone else, they sometimes make mistakes and I believe that they have erred in their decisions to ban those who only seek the truth. Time to lift the bans, reopen the fundraising debate and get to the bottom of the whole matter.



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Thank you Maggie and Bernie,



Now at least some of us can say thank you for high lighting who and why ...



Spider please go give it a rest,.... do you know, I didn't even bother to open your links or your stupid emails, just get fed up with having to delete ....



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Well said Eamonn!



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Are the masons involved ?



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no answer as yet phil , so maybe they are ?



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No probs Dizzy - and I'm sure Elko won't mind his email being copied onto here - after all there's nothing to hide - is there?





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Msg 82 Dizzycows - Agree with you totally - nothing should be hidden.



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spider. You who talks about things being in bad taste, you are one very spiteful person. Nearly every thread you post on you have to bring Hans into your bile.



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Of course those that feel strongly about the ban could just simply not post until he is reinstated. Simple yet effective.



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As usual what started as a serious topic has now finished up as the usual cat fight between non agreeing egos.

About time these people realised that a public forum is not the place for personal vendettas.



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Msg 89,



How would not posting be effective ? This and others threads would not exist if people , who feel strongly about the injustice of it all, had not expressed themselves.



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If you are trying to keep this topic open , you are going the right way around it , try to keep on topic and try to stop sniping at each other , or you will be responsible for closing it , not the mods on this occasion .

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Message 88 Maria.



Water off a Spiders back,join the gang ! The truth is from day one of joining this forum Han's has always had a pop at me,the others used to defend me !



But hay ho, things change and I know why.



So now its every time I post anything and I am used to the insults now,sometime I fight back sometime I don't give a fig.



The point on this thread is to post that they are all unhappy about lee's ban. Well so am I but at the end of the day the moderators have the final word. So today's new will be tomorrow's history.



The list of members trying hard to bring me down is endless but email me if you wish and I may enlighten you a little.



I raised over 1000tl in support of little Ismail with the help of lee. These other nasty members and we all know who they are have done in my view very little. Oh but now they champagne to bring Lee back.



I will say it again. Lee I am sure will see them all for how they post to me. A few more have yet to tag along.



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spider , i dont think this thread was opened to settle personal vendettas , or as a point scoring exercise , lets keep it on topic , if you have grievances to air start another thread .



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So it appears the Festival threads were pulled because it turned into a witch-hunt !!

What a load of tosh, I followed most of what was being said and it was a general discussion with people asking for some answers,.. nothing wrong with that.



The threads were pulled and no one got answers and here we are again asking for answers, perhaps our forum admin would like to give us a reason why they do not allow a discussion to continue that most members want.



So what is it Threats,......Libel,......Best mates leaning on you or just sheer heavy handed moderating come on lets have some answers please.



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i dont think we will ever get any answers turts , maybe c44 has become an advertising guru , no good old fashioned debates any more , its all about advertising ,



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I got banned when I first joined because I aparently had a username too close to someone else. Quite disconcerting the wording of the email was really abrupt...... But i got over it!



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How can you get banned for having a username that the forum allowed to register ?



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well how about this , i got banned for having an invalid e mail address , i think a certain mod was playing god at the time , or maybe was drunk , the funny thing was he e mailed me on the so called invalid address telling me i was banned ?



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I was banned for twenty five years for saying boo to a goose........Got over it! Actually I got back in because dizzycow fought my corner.............Thank you Glady's



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omg vicky , good job you never cooked it ?



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Good old dizzy,... you don't tangle with her )



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Only at your peril



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and i see now the ch web site domain name is now up for auction so far a bid of $12.00 has be made for it bidding closes on 1/3/12 at 9.20 am so has hc don a runner then



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Oiiii, Im a little ol pussy cat really,





Just don't like to injustices!!



Being pulled because of a witch hunt is rubbish,.. Money went missing, still is missing, and those banned because of asking questions should be made 'Honerary' members on here !! I admire any one that challenges and has the tenacity to keep at such corrupt goings on ! ...



If the Lee was banned for such a minor issue, there is just no hope in this world for wrong to be put right ...



Very sad state of affairs ....

I too was banned for ten minutes I think it was once by AJ for telling Hans to 'shut up'...



See turtle, dont mess with me cos I will tell you , shut it ... lol



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I wonder why ch don't want to keep there web site http://www.cyprusrehab.com going



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https://www.facebook.com/hal.crompton makes interesting reading.



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But lets not forget peeps all will be rosy on FORUM 44s picnic, we can all sit round eating our fairy cakes saying what nice people they are, and raising a free beer.Or we can say stick it and stay at home



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Remember the tables are a long way apart





No need to mingle once you know who is who !





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Barking. Like the picture 27th Dec. "Lets never speak of 2011 again".



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Topten Msg 108



I don't feel the need to sit next to a noisy, busy duel carriageway, breathing in exhaust fumes & mixing with strangers, some of whom seem to have mental health issues! I have a beautiful garden up in Baspinar, I can light the BBQ, put on some nice background music, pour some wine & enjoy! Any normal, sane, rational people are more than welcome to join me!



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Maggy msg 111



Any normal, sane, rational people are more than welcome to join me!





Is that even possible...normal, sane AND rational??? I think that maybe quite a tall order



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Msg 112

Sam, Ok here's the criteria:



Must have only 2 legs

Must have sense of humour

Must bring a bottle

Must be prepared to get a taxi home, or walk (my do's tend to over-run and most people drink far more that they'd planned!)

Absolutely NO TEA served!



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Sounds good Maggie, book me in please.



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I'l be there....just need to find a lift....i'l bring 2 bottles!!





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Maggie - I think I fit all the criteria (just) but sadly won't be in TRNC at that time, otherwise would have booked myself a place



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S'ok Jeannie, i'l have a few for you!



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Great response girls but we shouldn't be hijacking Topten's thread!



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Well if it keeps it at the top.......





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Thanks DD - you're all heart.



Maggie - yes, sorry, but at least it keeps the thread towards the top.



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did any thing come of the Denise and tony radio interview i guess some of us may not find out because, people who are in pursuit of the truth through the freedom of speech have been denied the answers in the democratic society we live in and has selpak been banned too for seeking the truth



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As Lee been pardened yet?



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Well I had a couple of emails from him this morning and he's very pleased, amused & encouraged by these threads - but no pardon as yet!



Free Johnny Lee - The Birmingham One!



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I wonder if any of the f11 and ch accused will be attending the c44 picnic and if so how will the mod deal with that if the banned c44 member turn up as well ?



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Free JohnnyLee with every case of Efes bought at Starling Supermarkets, this week only. (subject to the usual terms and conditions,see mods for details, only one Johnnylee per customer, while stocks last ). Hurry to avoid disappointment.



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Well it'll make a change from glasses & coolbags! Will the free Johnny Lee be in a little Elvis suit? could become a collectors item! lol



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OH please not the Elvis suit, thought or no hoped that it had gone for dusters



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At least the thread stayed open



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Yes quite amazing really - considering we've gone all round the houses topic wise!

What would be nice would be for the Moderators to reconsider and re-instate Lee. A months ban is very harsh I think!



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Msg 129

Do not bother with the moderators, perhaps it is the owner who has been "got at " as you have put it in the past.



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Johnny Lee is a superb guy. He gives freely of his time, and talents, to support those less well off.



When Johnny pointed the finger, I was the first to shout........"innocent until proven guilty".



But banned for 1 month? Never!



Johnny uses Cyprus 44 as a platform to do his good works. Without the oxygen of publicity how can he succeed?



Ismael needs ALL of the support that he can get, and most of that is from Johnny, and his selfless acts...



Moderators please! Look into your hearts! Allow Johnny to keep up his good works.



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Having followed most posts re the Cheshire Homes Festival 11 or even 10 or even "Party in the Parks" alledged scandal, I suggest that it looks very doubtful that any of us will get a true answer or justice regarding the money raised from honest people for a supposedly good cause. It is clear to me that there is a massive cover up by many more (and organisations) than we had ever realised even within these so called charities. To all those involved, and you know who you are, I and i am sure many, sincerely hope you rot in hell and that, in my mind, is far too good for you. You have clearly ruined the lifeline meant for so many under privelaged people who really need our help, for your own needs and greed, you are the lowlife of our community ! God help you ! but i expect even he wont bother. read this and feel terribly ashamed.



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Please revoke Johnny Lee's ban. Not deserved.



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Wynyardman and other concerned members of a very controlled forum. We will make sure that Lee and Jan's and many others campagne to help Ismail survive and to become well again will not be dampened by what would appear to be "cyber control freaks" who are clearly in a syndicate to cover up an alledged massive charity fraud scam which has benefitted a lot of people other than the ones the funds were destined for. I really think that the ex pat community will think many times now before giving to charities unless sure of where the money will eventually go. If Cheshire Homes had alledgedly been "shafted" by a couple of cheap masterbators they would have surely asked the police to recover the lost funds. It all stinks beyond comprehension. regards barry



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Its about time the mods got the gist of this post and stopped playing Thatcherisms" these mods are not for turning" its time to get your heads out of the sand and do the right thing.Allow Lee back and apologise for banning him in the first place



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The most helpfull member ?



could we have an answer then



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msg 136, Phil,

You had your answer many times over. This is a moderated forum and if a thread is closed for whatever reason it should be accepted, otherwise it makes a mockery of moderation. The bans followed accordingly. Any objections should be addressed in private e.mails and not challenge the decisions publicly which in effect means a continuation of the closed thread i.e. opening a closed thread through a back door.

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The silence by the admins of this forum is speaking volumes in my opinion.



All I want to know is firstly why were the CH and Festival 11 threads closed, excuses of bullying and stalking on those threads does not wash with me so lets have an honest answer please. It is obvious something is amiss with the accounting and fundraising for CH so lets not have a cover-up by those that own and run this forum.



Secondly, why was Lee banned, again please let us have an honest answer from those that own and run the forum.



Trying to take this matter out of the public domain on here is a farce, even Cyprus Today and several other forums are openly discussing it so why not on here?



Silence is not an option it just smacks of those that own and run this forum being in cahoots with those that have committed a wrong, hopefully truth will out before all of us questioning the actions of the admins are also banned from here.



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Oh dear Ismet, ..... freedom of speech etc etc ???



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Elko2 please will you post on this thread the reason for johnny lee's ban as I dont know and cant find it anywhere and also who was the moderator who banned him. regards Barry



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Msg 136 was directed at Rowlo

for information

as I find him the most helpful member

especially with easter eggs



sorry for any misunderstanding



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msg 139,

Moderation versus absolute freedom of speach. You make your choice. This is a moderated forum. You do not join a club if you do not accept the rules.

msg 140,

He did not try to resurrect a closed thread openly but he questioned it openly on the forum which I considered as an attempt to reopen the discussion through a back door. On reconsideration perhaps I should have banned him for a lesser period compared to other direct offenders. However I will not reconsider under "mob" pressure.

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I too would like to know the REAL reason the threads were closed and Lee banned.



As I have said it is pointless as there are other forums and media openly discussing this, why Cyprus 44 should be any different is beyond me unless the owner and those that run it have been got at or have some sort of involvement. I seriously hope not and I also hope that the admins and owner rethink their actions and take remedial action as soon as possible.



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Elko2 Ismet, message 142, thank you for explaining and as for "mob pressure" dont talk so daft man, perhaps you dont like the fact that Johnny lee is a popular member of this society and has only done good for others at his own expense. You have just admitted that you should not have banned him for such a long period, if at all, so do the decent thing and re instate him no one on here will think any worse of you for actually admitting you were wrong. regards Barry



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ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL

BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.



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Also may I suggest that you instigate some form of "yellow card" system where a moderator gives a warning to a poster (if it is a border line case) that the thread/post is near the mark ! I am confident that most members would adjust their comments accordingly.



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Rules are made to be broken ..



The problem lies in the interpretation of how they have been broken ..



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Those who continue to be about the CH matter and the lack of accountability, should make a complaint to the Cheshire Home H.Q. at (info@lcdisability.org )asking them to investigate the matter. I have done this, they have appointed a lady named Eleonora Catelli to look into the matter. I await her conclusions.



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Ismet thank you for your responses so far. Perhaps you would be kind enough to answer three very simple questions.



1. Does the forum owner or admins have any connection with CH or those involved in the fundraising or were they threatened with any form of legal action if the threads were not closed?



2. I understand the forum is moderated and what is posted maybe closed or deleted at the discretion of the owner, the same applies with regards to banning members. However what is the real reason the CH threads were closed and certain members involved in such threads been banned when there are numerous threads and members that merit such action go unchecked?



3. If the CH threads are in breach of the rules, why are they left visible both here and on search engines such as Google. Surely they should have been removed and not just closed?



TIA



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Message Posted:
01/03/2012 14:36

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Free Lee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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01/03/2012 15:02

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msg. 149, Gina.

1st Q: "Does the forum owner or admins have any connection with CH or those involved in the fundraising or were they threatened with any form of legal action if the threads were not closed?"

I can only speak for myself and only know something about CH from what I read on C44, otherwise I have no connections at all. I consider Taner Erginel, the retired chief Justice as a friend and I believe he is on the board and busy investigating this case but I had no contact with him whatsoever.



2nd Q: "I understand the forum is moderated and what is posted maybe closed or deleted at the discretion of the owner, the same applies with regards to banning members. However what is the real reason the CH threads were closed and certain members involved in such threads been banned when there are numerous threads and members that merit such action go unchecked?"

Here I can answer the specific questions but not the unspecified ones like "...there are numereous threads...". the reason was pure and simple: the matter was fully aired and everybody had their say. what followed did not bring anything new but simply kept going as a matter of pressure and attack on those concerned. It was not any more for discussion but simple bullying. Furthermore, from what I read from C44, the CH relevant committee was investigating the matter and they deserved a chance to investigate quietly without harassment. such matters need time for safe reliable results.

I did not delete the thread completely because it contained valuable information. My aim was not to sweep anything under the carpet; it was to stop bullying and also afford time to the committee to investigate safely. In the past ı had to investigate a matter of theft and I came under pressurre from the Prime Minister of the time for quick results. I told him off for the above reasons.



3rd Q: "If the CH threads are in breach of the rules, why are they left visible both here and on search engines such as Google. Surely they should have been removed and not just closed?"

sorry, I have already answered this one above.

Thank you for these genuine questions and thanks for the opportunity for me to explain in greater detail.

ismet



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Message Posted:
01/03/2012 15:03

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Lee, Denise and others that have been banned for talikng about this matter take a look here, thank you to scruff who posted these links on the other thread.



Forum address http://northerncyprus.createforumhosting.com/ucp.php?mode=register you need to register first



Free speech discussion on the CH saga http://northerncyprus.createforumhosting.com/cheshire-home-festival-11-t30132-100.html



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Message Posted:
01/03/2012 15:37

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Elko re part of your message 151



you state your Imminent friend the retired chief justice Taner Erginel is on the board of Chesire Homes and that he is investigating the "case" but you also say in the the breath you have had no contact with him , so How DO YOU KNOW HE IS INVESTIGATING THE "CASE "



And also i believe you have shown double standards on here by allowing the banned ones to post messages on here ie message from Denise Phillips via Mrs snakes may be you should consider banning yourself for one month



ps I am on the side of the banned ones they where right in every way for asking questions



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Message Posted:
01/03/2012 15:51

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Ismet., sorry but I have to disagree with these statements of yours



'the reason was pure and simple: the matter was fully aired and everybody had their say'



Everybody has not had their say and I disagree it was going around in circles this subject is not going to go away whilst those that have given money to the cause do not receive answers.



'My aim was not to sweep anything under the carpet; it was to stop bullying and also afford time to the committee to investigate safely.'



That is my point, you cannot sweep it under the carpet all that has happened it has moved from here to elsewhere where they allow freedom of speech, for goodness sake even Cyprus Today are not stifling such debate. The committee has as far as I'm aware completed their investigation but as you can tell the answers they have provided have not been accepted and I suspect never will.



As to members bullying others, I think you need to take a close look at other threads on here rather than a selective a



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continued



As to members bullying others, I think you need to take a close look at other threads on here rather than the extremely selective approach taken with regards to the CH threads.



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bleedin' 'ell...........



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01/03/2012 20:06

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Why should anyone want to go to another forum ? All the people want, is for this one to be fair and equitable to all. I can understand where the Mods are coming from, nobody wants anarchy and a poisonous atmosphere, but the Mods need to act with moderation and give people plenty of leeway when all they seek are answers to very important questions.



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01/03/2012 20:17

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Good luck to my friend in the Black Country and let's get him back ASAP.



Didn't realise he was a Brummie!



Ere our kid where yow going then and how are ya!



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02/03/2012 00:24

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magicart. I was born Dudley, I am a Wolves suppoter, but I do love Brum. especially the Rum Runner ,Rebbecas, Snobs, Barbarellas, and so many other great night clubs.



Keep up your good work and stay well. Best Wishes to you your family and every one on 44 for your support.



In he words of Harry Potter . Bloody Brilliant.



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02/03/2012 00:40

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Welcome back Lee!



maggie xxx



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Thank You Maggie. xx



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Johnny,



Bostin mate. Yome a real goodun!



wyn



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02/03/2012 05:28

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don't wish to take all the credit - but i phoned ismet and got it sorted...



well done Lee



a true honest and upright citizen....





keep up the good work....



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Message Posted:
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Great to see you back and I think Blues could well be playing your lot next season.



Bet on?



Art.



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Message Posted:
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Bloody well done mods common sense prevails



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