Northern Cyprus annexed to Turkey

newlad



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Message Posted:
04/03/2012 21:52

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-273223-.html



Would this mean that Turkey would then have more bargaining power to join "the club".Would it also mean that Northern Cyprus would no longer exist.



Paul.

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
04/03/2012 21:56

Başmüzakereci Egemen Bağış "KKTC, Türkiyeye bağlanabilir" demiş... Ne gereği var Sn.Bağış... Bayrak ayni, marş ayni, ordu ayni, para ayni... Nüfus desen %75 sizden... Vali (Elçilik) sizden... Maliye (Yardım Heyeti) sizden... İstihbarat (Sivil İşler) sizden... İçişleri (Sivil Savunma) sizden... Ulaştırma (THY-Pegasus-Atlas) sizden... Haberleşme (Turkcell-Telsim) sizden... Bankacılık (İş-Ziraat-Garanti) sizden... Diyanet İşleri Başkanı, Merkez Bankası Başkanı, K.T. Petrolleri Genel Müdürü, K.T. Tütün Endüstrisi Genel Müdürü sizden... Polis ve itfaiye direk Genelkurmaya bağlı... Posta kodumuz desen "Mersin 10 Türkiye"... KKTC Hükümeti (Muhtarlık) ve KKTC Meclisi (Maarif Anaokulu) bunlara razı olduktan ve biz ahmak Kıbrıslılar da goyun gibi güdüldükten sonra değer mi canınızı yeyesin

rowlo



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Message Posted:
04/03/2012 22:01

translate please yorgo ?

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
04/03/2012 22:05

Elko or alike will be able to translate it better then I rowlo.Don't think my version'd be appriciated.

Ed1957


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Message Posted:
04/03/2012 22:06

It's coming, better get used to it

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
04/03/2012 22:08

msg 5;40 years too late

greylag


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Message Posted:
04/03/2012 22:17

Translated i think it means something along the lines of f*** o** Turkey.Leave us alone and get back to your own country.

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
04/03/2012 22:17

Translation (Censured) this ***** *****Egemen Bagis, who the hell does he think he is? ffs, if you were able to tie Cyprus to Turkey, why havent you done in the last 40 years you *****. Instead of looking to end the occupation why dont you just F*** O**; and you still say mimbo jumbo.

rowlo



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Message Posted:
04/03/2012 22:19

bah , wish i never asked ,

Turtle


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Message Posted:
04/03/2012 22:23

That told you rowlo

loobie444



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Message Posted:
04/03/2012 22:45

just do it and lets get on with it

philbailey


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Message Posted:
04/03/2012 22:51

Msg 11, kind of goes against all your other threads

where do you fly in

and did you not start a thread to get N/Cyprus recognised ?

greylag


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Message Posted:
04/03/2012 23:08

Off we go again.Anyone have any answers too mess 1 please.

greylag


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012

Answers on a post card please.

philbailey


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 00:01

Would the greenline close

if only for a temporary measure ?

MoonageDaydre


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 01:12

I'm sure those expats who moved to the TRNC because they loved Cyprus would hate to see it become just another bit of 'south Turkey.'

More importantly the Turkish Cypriots would rightly feel annexation was the final betrayal on the part of the 'Motherland.'

Lets hope annexation never happens

MaggieAndBernie



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Posts: 2012

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 02:50

I'd say be careful what you wish for!

greylag


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 13:10

So if N.C. became part of Turkey would this mean that people could fly direct to Ercan,from Britain.

martinD41


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 13:21

If you look at Turkeys laws regarding where foreigners are allowed to buy property,and annexation does happen, you might not be so happy to have bought here..

greylag


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 14:47

Why the smiley face please mess19.

Deniz1


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 14:55

Because he is a little ray of sunshine.

rocking


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 15:25

Message 16 I think if you ask Turkish Cypriots of course they would like to stay independent, but would rather live under the Turkish flag than the blue and white of Greek Cyriots - they have very long memories..

steve.sewell


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 16:24

A lot of you are so thick it's unreal. Cyprus has nothing to do with greece other than the language spoke, the same as the us to the uk. Cyprus is a independent country with it's own flag no blue and white. Why are people so stupid that they try to create a greece vs turkey thing here, this maybe the case in greece and turkey, but this is cyprus, greece is not there and turkey should not be there.

You have to remember it was only a small group of people who caused the trouble it does not reflect on 99% of the greek speaking cypriots who were happy living along side there turkish speaking cypriot brothers and sisters. Turkey have well and truly overstayed there welcome and have wiped out the turkish cypriot population in the process. If every real cypriot was asked on both sides what they want, it would be for turkey to f off there is no attitude between the cypriots they just have the same common enemy. For the turkish cypriots to see turkeys true motives says it all really.

yrys88


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 16:52

I thought it was already annexed. What will change?



Cyprus has changed her rulers more than I change my shirts in a month.



Cyprus will always be Cyprus no matter who has got the most guns here!

yrys88


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 16:58

My guess is, Turkey never wanted an "agreement" here anyway. Maybe in the beginning when they thought it was cool to join the EU, they may have wanted to use N. Cyprus as a bargaining chip. Turkey would not let such a strategic piece of land out of her grasp, never willingly. Only if it suited her.

Millwall123


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 18:11

I think the annexation is a red herring.



The more likely is 2 independent states both recognised by the UN.



This will mean proper borders and direct flights.



If the GCs can sell this to the electorate and get some Turkish cash for the displacement it will go ahead.

astro941


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 18:25

Milwall, Do you meant 2 Independant States devoid of coruption, nepotism and cronyism.



Isn't it high time that both sides of the Island were abandoned by their baby sitters? Forced to come out of denial and facilitate a better future for future generations of the Island?

Pogle


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 19:29

So Turkey should F off? Should they take the 750,000,000tl per year in subsidies with them?

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 19:34

Pogle;



I guess you forgot to calculate how much money gets generated by turkish in trnc and then sent BACK to turkey?Never mind the fact that WE have no control of our country...........................







for all turkey gains here 750,000,000,000 wouldn't be enough...................as OUR for freedom .........PRICELESS

erolz


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 19:42

yorg 750,000,000,000 divided by say population of 200,000 would be 3.75 million TL per person, or about 1.35 million sterling per person.



Not sure about you but if offered that even as a one off payment for my personal consent to let Turkey annex the TRNC, I would have to think pretty hard about saying 'no my freedom is priceless' and while I do not doubt you would say know I suspect more TC would lean my way than yours ;)



Hell for 1.35 mill sterling I would probably thrown in my disputed title deed property as well.

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 19:50

erolz,,,,,those are just 'figures' that some think could buy us with................and not aware of the fact that one cannot possibly put a price on freedom.





no diffrerent then Erdogan's last years comments,regarding who pays ..............



well,they can s....e it up where the sun don't shine.............as for disputed titles,I have 2 and willing to give them up for OUR freedom





200.000 population?????? I,alone have 3 turkish neighb ours,living in sheds/not registered properties..........how many more out there?

Pogle


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 20:15

Salahi

Out of interest in what ways would you lose your freedom? How would your day to day life be affected, as you see it? Would the TRNC be besieged by Turks who would presumably be offered equal rights?

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 20:19

Pogle.......you need to be CYPRIOT or at least have had the feeling of being accupied/controlled/overtaken, before you can understand where we are coming from.



as for trnc...........pardon the experssion.........whats that?

Ed1957


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 21:02

Maybe the fear is having to join a competetive world without the buffer of support from Turkey.



what is actually produced here?

halffull


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 21:14

Message 23 I live next door to a Turkish Cypriot and another lives close by and neither of them would give a Greek Cypriot the time of day, nor "go South", they hate them with a passion, I have heard first hand accounts of some of the attrosities pre 74 intervention.

tracer


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 21:15

Msg 34 Ed before 74 the occupied territory was the heart of agriculture ,lemons, oranges, grapefruits, wheat, barley, tobacco. and much more .. Just now what ever the Tcs produce turkey not only don't allow them to export anything , they force them to import from turkey ... some are crossing to the south but are not enough .. So this place could be a paradise in no time if turkey leaves us alone ...

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 21:29

halffull

We are already aware of those ones existance and as much as we have the greatest sympathy for them,this does not mean they are happy with present situation nor it gives Turkey the right to illegaly (in the eyes of the world at the very least) accupy our country.

greylag


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Message Posted:
05/03/2012 23:46

http://athena.hri.org/news/cyprus/cna/2012/12-03-05_1.cna.html#01

bertieboss


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Message Posted:
06/03/2012 02:22

Short memories of the pre 74 situation !!??

North Cyprus is now a Turkish military garrison and a gambling centre for rich Turks and others that's how it will stay!

Perhaps the Turkish Cypriots would have been better off had the Turkish army not intervened in 74 !!??

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
06/03/2012 07:52

bertieboss;



why did turkish army intervene in 74?

where were the turkish army until 74?











why did americans,english..............wait all that time before intervening iraq or afghanistan or indeed why are they still waiting to intervene syria?





















......perhaps the intention has always been to take control and accupie!!!................and that of course becomes easier once the country/public are weaker!!!





the world should hang their heads in shame for allowing this to take place................and have the cheek to try educating others on democracy.