white card property purchase pre 74

reyntj


Joined: 26/01/2011
Posts: 229

Message Posted:
21/03/2012 15:39

im getting married in june to my turkish girlfriend in january she will have been here 8 years .im only staying if they give her white card so we can buy pre 74 title .ive conducted extensive research and thats what ive decided. i like it here but if i cant buy a home to live in im going to live in alanya or somewhere like that. if anyone knows the likelehood or not of her getting white card and this then allowing her to buy pre 74 title please let me know.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
21/03/2012 16:36

The whole pre 74 Turkish Title debate has been discussed for many years on this forum. Lots of old threads if you use the Goggle box at the top of the page.There are differing answers, dependent on if an Estate Agent, someone trying to sell their Pre 74 property or someone like myself that was refused this title, answer. For what it's worth and trust me I went to every avenue to find the truth behind the accusations that no foreigner will get PTP on this deed, I am still of the opinion that refusals are still occuring. Luckily the more reputable Advocates and Estate Agents are now advising potential foreign buyers to stay away from this particular deed and openly admitting that they will not get PTP.



In truth because the Government will not openly admit to this "covert" policy it is difficult to support many of the claims. However there is light at the end of the tunnel. PTP is now only taking about 3 months according to the HBPG. Houses are taking many months to sell.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
21/03/2012 16:47

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Applying for PTP costs you nothing and if your girlfriend speaks Turkish the whole process will be painless. Why not stick to the law of the land and apply for your PTP before entering into any contractual agreement? If the seller manages to sell during your waiting period then so be it, but the way the property market is, it must be worth taking a chance?

Two people that I advised to do this saved themselves a lot of money and stress. They were both refused, even though the deeds were in the names of British citizens.



I did hear that Turkish Nationalities no longer needed PTP or that the law was changing. Obviously if this is the case, it puts a whole different light on things. Sorry my answer is a bit woolly but the topic has always been heated and disputed. The following link might help in identifying the problems in answering your question accurately.

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/72934.asp

If you learn anything new, please share information with us.

gelin70


Joined: 17/06/2008
Posts: 66

Message Posted:
21/03/2012 19:34

You still need ptp for Turkish Citizens but they are suppose to come through around 3 months after applying but we have yet to see the evidence.



Regarding the white card you would have to been working here for at least 10 years and have no breaks in the work permit again thats if they grant it.

reyntj


Joined: 26/01/2011
Posts: 229

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 07:02

gelin70 i heard from somewhere it was 8 years . i cant remember where i got that from it might have been a post on here. i think that was the proposal and the legislation might be going through this year. im not disputing you saying 10 years but could you clarify where you have the 10 years info from as this is very important to us.thnx

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 08:35

Our Turkish neighbours, both sides, were refused PTP on pre '74 Turkish Title, which proves that the excuse we were given that we are too close to a military area is nonsense. After all assurances that PTP is 'merely a formality- Pre '74 TT is the safest property to buy', we were refused in 2006, having applied in 2005.



One of the neighbours refused is a huge property developer both here and in Turkey. His wife has a Kimlik Card, so she had to apply for PTP, which was granted, even though she herself is Turkish.



I only recently spoke with one long established and well known estate agent who claims to have friends in the highest positions in [TRNC] government and the answer from the agent was: 'NO FOREIGNER will be granted PTP!'

reyntj


Joined: 26/01/2011
Posts: 229

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 08:56

is a kimlik card the tc citizen card sorry for my ignorance

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 09:54

reynti/Msg 7:



Yes, it is - although I don't know the criteria needed to obtain one - many on this forum will know.



I can tell you that buying pre '74 TT is not worth the risk, as we have found out to our cost. Even if you can resell it, there's only Turkish Cypriots who will buy it and I doubt you'll even recoup your purchase price if the downturn in the economy continues to deteriorate at its present level.

gelin70


Joined: 17/06/2008
Posts: 66

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 13:51

reyntj, My husband went to find out the criteria and he also had someone who could have helped us but both of them were faced with the same answer 10 years plus my husband had a gap in his work permit of 3 months and they said that the term would have begun again from the 3 months. So the first 3 years would have been disregarded. Go to the relevant departments and find out the criteria.

reyntj


Joined: 26/01/2011
Posts: 229

Message Posted:
23/03/2012 08:44

im sure thats what you have been told gelin70.we are going to visit nicosia soon anyway as my girlfriend has to pick up her new turkish passport which needed renewing when we go we might as well ask the question i will report back here what they say -im expecting to report the same

cavalryman


Joined: 08/11/2010
Posts: 314

Message Posted:
23/03/2012 21:15

I am led to believe if the property already has a kocan registered to a foreign national you can purchase.Maybe someone can tell me if I am wrong.

walkerscott


Joined: 13/08/2009
Posts: 901

Message Posted:
24/03/2012 12:57

http://no-deeds-no-money.moonfruit.com

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
24/03/2012 13:32

Whats the problem? We are informed that PTP is only taking 3 months so apply and don't enter into any contractual agreement until you have it approved. Then you can simply transfer deeds and money simultaneously.



No deeds, no money. Only safe way forward.