english football managers

cypruschauffer


Joined: 26/09/2007
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
14/12/2007 07:37

any one know who has been the most successfull football manager who is english in the last 30 yaers????

livethedream


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
14/12/2007 09:31

Is that a trick question?????

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
14/12/2007 09:44

Does one exist?

Think England's glory ended in 1966

VRs-Dude


Joined: 06/04/2007
Posts: 168

Message Posted:
14/12/2007 09:51

Harry Redknapp gets my vote.

He has done a fantastic job at Portsmouth, getting us promoted to the top flight, saving us from relegation on his return and now keeping us in a euro qualifying spot.

cypruschauffer


Joined: 26/09/2007
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
14/12/2007 11:38

i was thinking maybe it is bobby robson or brian clough unless anyone knows of anyone else???

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
14/12/2007 16:01

hi guys

vr dude redknapp mite have done a good at portsmouth with filling your team with 7 african players what is he going to do when the african nations cup starts!!!!

and was it not all you portsmouth fans wanted to kill him after he defected over to your nearest rivals southampton!!!! lol



ok if we are talking older managers it has to be bill nicholson - bob paisley -brian clough - bobby robson (especially what he achevied in europe with psv-porto- barcelona)



to tell you the truth there are many english managers in the modern game but in my view none of them have fully acheived anything honour wise

to tell you the truth the scotish managers lead the way

alex fergurson - george graham - kenny daglish - david moyes - gordon strachan



regards

ukturk

fredred


Joined: 09/12/2007
Posts: 89

Message Posted:
14/12/2007 17:17

hi



it has to be bob paisley.

JamesB


Joined: 07/02/2007
Posts: 450

Message Posted:
14/12/2007 19:37

Wasnt he scotish?

martin73


Joined: 06/10/2007
Posts: 24

Message Posted:
14/12/2007 19:44

Has to be Bobby Robson. Or maybe even Roy Hodgson who has managed all over Europe.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
14/12/2007 19:54

james

bob paisley was actually englsih even thou his surname sounds scotish

martin even thou roy hodgson managed all over the world he has nothing on bobby robson who was a success in england where hodgson was not

regards guys

ukturk

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1404

Message Posted:
14/12/2007 20:21

pity he got Southampton relegated and let them down, perhaps it was always the plan?

dodger



Joined: 29/07/2007
Posts: 1895

Message Posted:
14/12/2007 20:53

I would think the answer would have to be "old big ed" himself brian clough,surprised that you never mentioned burkinshaw at tottenham though erkan,he was a damn good manager.

Bob / Anne


Joined: 01/11/2007
Posts: 39

Message Posted:
14/12/2007 21:41

Congatulations to the English F.A. for selecting the Italian Cappello. Who according to the papers cannot speak a word of English. Now the players will be even more confused?.



Confused myself

Bob.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
14/12/2007 22:47

hi guys

paul i was thinking about keith burkinshaw and he was our best manager since bill and pron would have been greater than him if that excuse for a chairman irving schollar did not stick his nose into the managers affairs



brian clough what a manger what he achevied at derby was nothing short of a miracle with his star player the great tottenham legend dave mackay won the league in his second season and reached the semi finals of the european cup, then went on to nottingham forest wining 2 doubles over liverpool for the cup and league and winning the european cup twice and reaching a third final but losing out to wolves (i have read his book)

so prob for me he is the daddy of all english managers



i have mixed feelings on cappello's appointment their is no doubt he is a quality club manager what he has acheived at ac millan-roma-jeuventus-real madrid he has not managed a national side and he has not been asked by italy to coach them because he is to outspoken remember this is the guy who publically critised david beckham and did not play him until public preasure and then becks showed what a player he is can you imagine him doing that to a england player in his worse than broken english about wearing the england shirt with pride i dont think so!!!!!

also im dissapointed also with the fa in not chossing at least a few english backroom coaches like adams (doing a good job at pompey) - stuart peace (doing a good job under 21's) - paul ince (mkdons) - dennis wise (leeds)-

alan shearer who all wore the three lions with pride and groom these players into eventual national manager's because this oppointment is only a short term fix in my view but i hope im proven wrong

sorry for the long post

regards to all

ukturk

dodger



Joined: 29/07/2007
Posts: 1895

Message Posted:
14/12/2007 23:27

some valid points there mate,how shearer could even come into the running though is beyond me,he has no experience as a coach,so i think we would be clutching at straws there.Dont get me wrong i think he was a fabulous player,but so were bryan robson,trevor francis frannie lee etc, etc.the only english person that i would have given the job to would have to be stuart pearce whom i admire immenseley,and i think he was ***t on at man city.he should be made assistant coach for england but personally i cannot see it happening as i think capello will want his own right hand man.what a state our national game is in and i do honestly believe its money related and strongly believe that when you play for the england football team you should play for free or at least donate your wage to the youth infrastructure of the country.



Sorry for the rant guys but i am very passionate about my national team and its been a long week,

Paul.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
15/12/2007 16:30

hi paul

i agree with you on shearer he has no coaching experiance even thou he going for his coaching badges, and im saying to be groomed as a future coach not right now, to tell you the truth stuart pearce should stay where he is because he is his own man and cant see him working under the itai, and he is doing a terrific job at the under 21's

maybe bring in david platt he knows the game and what it is like to play for the three lions, i know for sure cappello will bring his own staff defo his no 2 cos hıs no2 has followed him everywhere from his early days at milan exactly like todd gripp with sven, i was reading about his pay package if they qualify for the next world cup and do well he will be the highest ever paid manager in football history around the world but still he is around 4-5 million a year i wonder if he gets a bonous for learning english quickly lol

also i have read most if not all players who play for the national team donate their money to good causes to tell you the truth mate the youth infrastructure for sports and should be footed by the government or by the association's regarding that sport

regards

erkan

dodger



Joined: 29/07/2007
Posts: 1895

Message Posted:
15/12/2007 20:48

Wasnt Platt the boss of the under 21s and got the sack,cant see him getting another crack at it mate.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
16/12/2007 00:52

he was mate

but you saying that venerballs had another crack under the mclaren regime and dont forget him in turn was under the sven regime

it does not make any difference cappello has got 4 of his backroom staff coming with him well thats what it says in the media and if a young english coach comes in it would be just for pr



do you know what mate ive come up with a new system for the fa to run the national team not sure this will work but tell me what you think

firstly the f.a retain the services of all the top british coaches i.e goalkeeping coaches-defense coaches set piece etc etc which is overseen under a committee of lets say top 10 managers of the premire league and lets say every year one manager gets elected to be the head coach and have the final say in the commitee but this should not conflict with the league and their team duties so to eliminate this you have you introduce a winter break like other countries and have international comps in the winter break and summer

regards

erkan

dodger



Joined: 29/07/2007
Posts: 1895

Message Posted:
16/12/2007 13:36

I understand were you are coming from on this,but it would take a hell of alot of organising,and everyone would be on a wage so therefore it would cost a fortune.As for a winter break im not sure.Look at the summer break,the season finishes in may if we are involved in world or european national cups then the players have a week off and then report for national duty.If there is no natinal duty then they take their break but by the beginning of july they are playing friendlies,sometimes at the other side of the world.



English top flight footballers play two many games in a season and untill something is done about that we might as wel p*** in the wind.

Richy


Joined: 17/11/2007
Posts: 47

Message Posted:
16/12/2007 14:07

Call me old fashioned but I think we need a bit more of the Mike Bassett touch myself..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJOsCF_4R1c&feature=related

dodger



Joined: 29/07/2007
Posts: 1895

Message Posted:
16/12/2007 14:19

Nice one Richy,

Now we know who Sam Allardyce models himself on.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
16/12/2007 14:48

guys

we need a manager like this kid playing as the manager of sunderland on football manager on the computer take a look guys

regards

ukturk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKvztQBlraQ&feature=related

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
16/12/2007 15:01

guys

or take a look at this nutty manager john sitton who was the mangager of leyton orient 1995 maybe be need someone like that to put our prima donna england players

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE5mEDcjM6s&feature=related

LOL

regards

ukturk

dodger



Joined: 29/07/2007
Posts: 1895

Message Posted:
16/12/2007 15:17

Forgot all about that character,what an idioit.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
16/12/2007 15:25

i know what a plum!!! did not have a clue lol

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
16/12/2007 15:28

also id like to pay tribute to keith burkinshaw who yesterday stepped down as no2 at watford due to family illness reasons this is prob the last time we see him in any coaching capacity and was also a great tottenham manager in the late 70's and early 80's

regards

ukturk

dodger



Joined: 29/07/2007
Posts: 1895

Message Posted:
16/12/2007 15:32

Thats ironic as we were only talking about him yesterday.Seems a really genuine guy,is he a yorkshiremen.Still think that he would have taken spurs on to greater things if he had stayed.

buster


Joined: 13/01/2008
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
26/02/2008 17:35

paisley without doubt 19 trophies

Jarra



Joined: 07/08/2007
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
26/02/2008 20:11

When people talk about great managers it often makes me wonder about the lower leagues. I have as we all have seen premiership managers drop into the lower leagues and really struggle. The most recent one being Bryan Robson. Yet the man at Crewe was in charge for years and years and to get a club as small as them into the Championship was an excellent achievement. So is the best manager the man who wins the most trophies at a big club or a manager who makes a successful club out of a team like Crewe. For example if the Chelsea manager wins the Champions Cup is he a great manager or very fortunate to take over a superb squad of players. Thats the beauty of football its all about opinions. My choice would be Brian Clough starting off at Hartlepool and working his way to the top by taken two small clubs to massive achievements. I just wish he retired a little earlier, perhaps after the Cup Final against Spurs.

dodger



Joined: 29/07/2007
Posts: 1895

Message Posted:
26/02/2008 20:15

Jarra,

Not "king kevin" then.The man at Crewe is dario grady.

buster


Joined: 13/01/2008
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
27/02/2008 00:18

jarra if we're talking about starting with nothing then we cant look past shankly

buster


Joined: 13/01/2008
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
27/02/2008 00:20

i know he's scottish b4 u correct me

glencoe


Joined: 01/02/2008
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
27/02/2008 09:47

Sorry UKT

you are 1000% wrong on Bob Paisley he was 1000% a son of Scotland

LOL

G

THOMAS


Joined: 27/01/2008
Posts: 28

Message Posted:
27/02/2008 10:19

sir bob was a geordie

Bowman


Joined: 02/05/2007
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
27/02/2008 12:31

Jock Stein. Not English, but best ever manager in British Club football with out doubt.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
27/02/2008 18:37

If its english, between don revie& bian clough.

jamie012002


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 223

Message Posted:
27/02/2008 19:18

Easy !! Terry Vegetables !!! Legend !

Dickey Mint


Joined: 04/10/2007
Posts: 35

Message Posted:
27/02/2008 20:04

Bob Paisley born Hetton-le hole County Durham England 1919

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
27/02/2008 22:44

The last manager to win the league championship .....Howard Wilkinson with Leeds.

Did nothing before and nothing since ?

glencoe


Joined: 01/02/2008
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
28/02/2008 07:26

Sorry

UKT

Got me Shanks & me paisleys mixed up

Humble pie

g

Lizzie1201


Joined: 12/02/2008
Posts: 7

Message Posted:
28/02/2008 22:29

What about Chris Coleman ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
29/02/2008 11:38

hi glencoe

knew you got mixed up, thats why i did not post to save you the embrasment in eating humble pie but you did anyway!!!! LOL LOL

its very rare that i am wrong (especailly about football) and if i am, im the first one too admit it!!!! lol

regards

ukturk